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From: Tony S. <tsh...@st...> - 2002-07-30 22:12:49
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Just passing this where it should probably go. :) Tony Shadwick Manager of Internet Services Strategic Technology Group ------ Forwarded Message From: Ken Clarke <ken...@sh...> Organization: PerlProgrammer.net Reply-To: Ken Clarke <ken...@sh...> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:58:48 -0700 To: tsh...@st... Subject: Re: Help Usermin module coding question! To clarify, I only maintain the Wish List, which as you've seen is currently not accepting new posts. Unfortunately, I don't have time to fix that at the moment :( With regard to writing modules, the best place to get questions like this answered is on the mailing-list. Wish I could be more help to you today. >> Ken Clarke >> Webmin Wish List Maintainer >> www.webmin.com/webmin/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Shadwick" <tsh...@st...> To: <ken...@sh...> Sent: July 30, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: Help Usermin module coding question! > Just got done writing the acl_security.pl for my Usermin module. The thing > is, the module writing document you have on the site says for Webmin: > > "Module ACL options are set in the Webmin Users module by clicking on the > name of a module next to a user's name. The options available are generated > by code from the module itself (except for the Can edit module > configuration? option, which is always present). When the user clicks on > Update the form parameters are also parsed by code from the module being > configured, before being saved in the Webmin config directory. " > > > Um..okay, that's nice. But I need to do this for usermin. My module > obviously won't appear in the Webmin Users module because it's not installed > in Webmin, and there is no such thing as a Usermin Users module, as I cannot > log into Usermin as admin or root. So...um...where on earth am I supposed > to do this? I can do it for each individual user from the shell, but that's > silly. I'm sure it's there someplace, but I certainly don't see it! :) > > Thanks! > > Tony Shadwick > Manager of Internet Services > Strategic Technology Group > > ------ End of Forwarded Message |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2002-07-31 01:00:59
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The simple answer is - there is no support for acl_security.pl detailed access control editing in usermin. Because all users are treated the same, it doesn't really make sense .. What kind of restrictions are you trying to configure in your acl_security.pl file? - Jamie Tony Shadwick wrote: > Just passing this where it should probably go. :) > > Tony Shadwick > Manager of Internet Services > Strategic Technology Group > > > ------ Forwarded Message > From: Ken Clarke <ken...@sh...> > Organization: PerlProgrammer.net > Reply-To: Ken Clarke <ken...@sh...> > Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:58:48 -0700 > To: tsh...@st... > Subject: Re: Help Usermin module coding question! > > To clarify, I only maintain the Wish List, which as you've seen is currently > not accepting new posts. Unfortunately, I don't have time to fix that at > the moment :( > > With regard to writing modules, the best place to get questions like this > answered is on the mailing-list. > > Wish I could be more help to you today. > > >>>Ken Clarke >>>Webmin Wish List Maintainer >>>www.webmin.com/webmin/ >>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Shadwick" <tsh...@st...> > To: <ken...@sh...> > Sent: July 30, 2002 2:40 PM > Subject: Help Usermin module coding question! > > > >>Just got done writing the acl_security.pl for my Usermin module. The >> > thing > >>is, the module writing document you have on the site says for Webmin: >> >>"Module ACL options are set in the Webmin Users module by clicking on the >>name of a module next to a user's name. The options available are >> > generated > >>by code from the module itself (except for the Can edit module >>configuration? option, which is always present). When the user clicks on >>Update the form parameters are also parsed by code from the module being >>configured, before being saved in the Webmin config directory. " >> >> >>Um..okay, that's nice. But I need to do this for usermin. My module >>obviously won't appear in the Webmin Users module because it's not >> > installed > >>in Webmin, and there is no such thing as a Usermin Users module, as I >> > cannot > >>log into Usermin as admin or root. So...um...where on earth am I supposed >>to do this? I can do it for each individual user from the shell, but >> > that's > >>silly. I'm sure it's there someplace, but I certainly don't see it! :) >> >>Thanks! >> >>Tony Shadwick >>Manager of Internet Services >>Strategic Technology Group |
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From: Tony S. <tsh...@st...> - 2002-07-31 03:52:32
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Well, the module I'm writing is for Spambouncer (http://www.spambouncer.org), and right now I work at an ISP where we have about 100 users on a single system running FreeBSD for e-mail. They all use POP3, and I installed Webmin and Usermin on the system for webmail. Literally mail forwarding and read e-mail were the only things that show up when someone logs into Usermin. Recently, I rolled out Spambouncer as an additional pay service for a few users to see how they handled it. I'd been using it for about a year and it worked wonders for me. After about a dozen phone calls of people who couldn't figure out how to download a text file, edit it, and upload it again, I decided to write a Usermin control module. I'm using the ACL to control whether a user has access or not based on whether or not they are paying for the Spambouncer service. I know it sounds lame, but it *does* eat up cpu cycles and additional disk space (caches last 100 messages for starters) so we have to justify costs. Besides, it wasn't my choice. :P Anyway, the ACL fits that task perfectly. As I said, I can manually edit files and it works, but I presumed (wrongly) that Usermin had an equivalent control feature. :) Any thoughts? On 7/30/02 8:00 PM, "Jamie Cameron" <jca...@we...> wrote: > The simple answer is - there is no support for acl_security.pl > detailed access control editing in usermin. Because all users are > treated the same, it doesn't really make sense .. > > What kind of restrictions are you trying to configure in > your acl_security.pl file? > > - Jamie > > Tony Shadwick wrote: > >>> Just got done writing the acl_security.pl for my Usermin module. The >>> >> thing >> >>> is, the module writing document you have on the site says for Webmin: >>> >>> "Module ACL options are set in the Webmin Users module by clicking on the >>> name of a module next to a user's name. The options available are >>> >> generated >> >>> by code from the module itself (except for the Can edit module >>> configuration? option, which is always present). When the user clicks on >>> Update the form parameters are also parsed by code from the module being >>> configured, before being saved in the Webmin config directory. " >>> >>> >>> Um..okay, that's nice. But I need to do this for usermin. My module >>> obviously won't appear in the Webmin Users module because it's not >>> >> installed >> >>> in Webmin, and there is no such thing as a Usermin Users module, as I >>> >> cannot >> >>> log into Usermin as admin or root. So...um...where on earth am I supposed >>> to do this? I can do it for each individual user from the shell, but >>> >> that's >> >>> silly. I'm sure it's there someplace, but I certainly don't see it! :) >>> >>> Thanks! |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2002-07-31 05:55:47
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If you just want to deny access to a usermin module on a per-user basis, this will be possible in the next release of usermin (using a new feature in the usermin configuration module in the next release of webmin). In fact, you can try out development versions that include these features right now from http://www.webmin.com/devel/ if you like .. - Jamie Tony Shadwick wrote: > Well, the module I'm writing is for Spambouncer > (http://www.spambouncer.org), and right now I work at an ISP where we have > about 100 users on a single system running FreeBSD for e-mail. They all use > POP3, and I installed Webmin and Usermin on the system for webmail. > Literally mail forwarding and read e-mail were the only things that show up > when someone logs into Usermin. > > Recently, I rolled out Spambouncer as an additional pay service for a few > users to see how they handled it. I'd been using it for about a year and it > worked wonders for me. After about a dozen phone calls of people who > couldn't figure out how to download a text file, edit it, and upload it > again, I decided to write a Usermin control module. > > I'm using the ACL to control whether a user has access or not based on > whether or not they are paying for the Spambouncer service. I know it > sounds lame, but it *does* eat up cpu cycles and additional disk space > (caches last 100 messages for starters) so we have to justify costs. > Besides, it wasn't my choice. :P Anyway, the ACL fits that task perfectly. > As I said, I can manually edit files and it works, but I presumed (wrongly) > that Usermin had an equivalent control feature. :) > > Any thoughts? > > On 7/30/02 8:00 PM, "Jamie Cameron" <jca...@we...> wrote: > > >>The simple answer is - there is no support for acl_security.pl >>detailed access control editing in usermin. Because all users are >>treated the same, it doesn't really make sense .. >> >>What kind of restrictions are you trying to configure in >>your acl_security.pl file? >> >>- Jamie >> >>Tony Shadwick wrote: >> >> >>>>Just got done writing the acl_security.pl for my Usermin module. The >>>> >>>> >>>thing >>> >>> >>>>is, the module writing document you have on the site says for Webmin: >>>> >>>>"Module ACL options are set in the Webmin Users module by clicking on the >>>>name of a module next to a user's name. The options available are >>>> >>>> >>>generated >>> >>> >>>>by code from the module itself (except for the Can edit module >>>>configuration? option, which is always present). When the user clicks on >>>>Update the form parameters are also parsed by code from the module being >>>>configured, before being saved in the Webmin config directory. " >>>> >>>> >>>>Um..okay, that's nice. But I need to do this for usermin. My module >>>>obviously won't appear in the Webmin Users module because it's not >>>> >>>> >>>installed >>> >>> >>>>in Webmin, and there is no such thing as a Usermin Users module, as I >>>> >>>> >>>cannot >>> >>> >>>>log into Usermin as admin or root. So...um...where on earth am I supposed >>>>to do this? I can do it for each individual user from the shell, but >>>> >>>> >>>that's >>> >>> >>>>silly. I'm sure it's there someplace, but I certainly don't see it! :) >>>> >>>>Thanks! |
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