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Re: [webmin-l] webalizer replaced by awffull in Mandriva 2007
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2006-12-03 01:02:22
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True .. but they have some really nice Flash graphs :-) Any future integration with Google would be an option, rather than a replacement for AWstats and Webalizer.. - Jamie On 2/Dec/2006 17:01 da...@so... wrote .. > Ah, but Jamie, I'm not thrilled with Google compiling all the user > demographics with my traffic. I do the work and spend the money. I > like the AWStats, it's a great selling point. ;-) > > Dan Long > > From: "Jamie Cameron" <jca...@we...> > To: Webmin users list <web...@li...> > Copies to: > Date sent: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:46:29 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: [webmin-l] webalizer replaced by awffull in Mandriva > 2007 > Send reply to: Webmin users list <web...@li...> > <mailto:web...@li...?subject=unsubscribe> > <mailto:web...@li...?subject=subscribe> > Keywords: > > [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] > > On 2/Dec/2006 04:23 Thomas Leavitt wrote .. > > > > > Message: 7 > > > Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:27:42 -0800 (PST) > > > From: "Jamie Cameron" <jca...@we...> > > > Subject: Re: [webmin-l] webalizer replaced by awffull in > Mandriva 2007 > > > To: Webmin users list <web...@li...> > > > Message-ID: <116...@ww...> > > > > > > On 1/Dec/2006 14:13 Thomas Leavitt wrote .. > > > > > >> Webalizer is no longer being packaged for distribution by > Mandriva's > > >> maintainers, > > >> instead, it has been replaced by AWFFull: > > >> > > >> *"Webalizer* is a great weblog analysis program but hasn't > been going > > >> anywhere in recent years. AWFFull takes that base and starts > to > > >> fix the niggles and annoyances and hopefully become a useful > > >> enhancement. As a base, weblizer has a stated goal of > producing > > >> web server analysis. AWFFull on the other hand, will gradually > > >> focus more on the business intelligence contained within those > > >> logs - and not specifically limited just to web server logs." > > >> > > >> The AWFFull web site is here... > > >> > > >> http://www.stedee.id.au/awffull > > >> > > >> Virtualmin GPL assumes that Webazlizer is available. That can > be > > >> bypassed by disabling it. I know, also, that I can simply > download and > > >> install the static webalizer binaries (or install awstats and the > > >> awstats virtualmin module - which is what I'm doing)... but I > thought > > I > > >> should point this out, as other distribution managers may come > to the > > >> same conclusion. > > >> > > > > > > Interesting, I didn't know what Webalizer had discontinued > development > > .. > > > Does AWFFull use the same configs as Webalizer? If so, it > should be > > > relatively easy to support. > > > > > > Until then, you could use AWstats, which is IMHO superior to > Webalizer > > > anyway. And fully supported by Virtualmin's plugin.. > > > > > > - Jamie > > > > > > > The webalizer web site is still being maintained (home page was > last > > updated on the 29th of Nov.), however, it appears that the code is > going > > nowhere, as the last (minor) update was on April 16, 2002, and > the last > > major one in 2000... which is an eon in Internet terms. According > to the > > README file of of Webalizer Extended (a fork), they've cleaned > up a > > number of bugs and security issues that were present in the last > > released version of Webalizer. > > > > The Wikipedia page on it lists numerous forks, of which AWFFull > is just > > one... don't know anything about how it is set up. > > > > Webalizer Extended might be more backwards compatible, config > file > > wise... scanning through the README, it seems clear that he's > simply > > added to what's there, rather than making major architectural > changes... > > > > + New configuration keywords to control all new Webalizer > Xtended features. > > + Bug-fix for truncated user agent strings in the "User Agents" > > statistics of the original Webalizer 2.01-10 (user agent fields can > now > > be grouped correctly). > > + Bug-fixes for serveral other problems with truncated strings (e.g. > > referrers) in the original Webalizer 2.01-10. > > + Security bug-fixes for several buffer overflows in the original > > Webalizer 2.01-10. > > > > webalizer extended home page: > > > > http://www.patrickfrei.ch/webalizer/ > > > > *** > > > > Mandriva is packaging awstats for distribution, so that's what I'm > going > > with for the moment. Seems to me that Virtualmin's maintainers > might > > need to consider replacing webalizer as the default with another > web > > stats package... given that code for awstats already exists, and > that > > the package is being actively maintained (and there's a webmin > module > > listed on their project page at sourceforge.net, even), it would > seem > > like a logical candidate. > > Yeah, it sounds like awstats is the really only well maintained and > commonly distributed option at the moment .. unless webalizer > extended > or one of the other webalizer follow-ons is included with a large > number > of operating systems. > > Actually, I'm beginning to think that running your own log analysis > is not such a good idea in the first place - sites like Google > Analytics do a great job. Perhaps I should add an option to > Virtualmin > to automatically put a Google Analytics <script> section on each > web > page... > > - Jamie > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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