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From: Rom P. <ro...@pr...> - 2004-08-23 02:57:51
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Hello Steve and All, * I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. You'll either have to wait or * maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? * The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To drop-down? Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, etc. However, that's Phil's call. I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity. > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. Best regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Dear All, I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your opinion about it: http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg I kept all 3 navigations on it: - The icons are the navigation between modules; - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu and so on) - The items below are the same. The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths. Please let me know your input, Best Regards, Rom Perei |
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From: Rom P. <ro...@pr...> - 2004-08-23 03:47:10
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Dear Steve and All, > I was thinking of pull-down menus too but only as an alternate selected way because they would have to use Javascript. The rule here is ALL HTML, CSS and PHP but possibly the odd Javascript as an option where it makes > sense. In this case it makes sense. The Javascript must be tested and word in all the main browsers at the very least. Humm, you are right, I read some of this in the goals of the projects and definitely pull downs would require some JavaScript. Well, back to the design table :D * That's good about the icons being able to be different colors. Thank you :-) Could you please send to me a snapshot of the CVS version? With Best Regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hello Steve and All, * I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. You'll either have to wait or * maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? * The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To drop-down? Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, etc. However, that's Phil's call. I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity. > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. Best regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Dear All, I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your opinion about it: http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg I kept all 3 navigations on it: - The icons are the navigation between modules; - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu and so on) - The items below are the same. The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths. Please let me know your input, Best Regards, Rom Perei |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 03:56:18
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Can you give me another email and I will send snapshots there instead of =
sending to everyone in this list?
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rom Pereira=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look
Dear Steve and All,
=20
> I was thinking of pull-down menus too but only as an alternate =
selected way because they would have to use Javascript. The rule here =
is ALL HTML, CSS and PHP but possibly the odd Javascript as an option =
where it makes=20
> sense. In this case it makes sense. The Javascript must be tested =
and word in all the main browsers at the very least.
=20
Humm, you are right, I read some of this in the goals of the projects =
and definitely pull downs would require some JavaScript. Well, back to =
the design table :D
=20
=D8 That's good about the icons being able to be different =
colors.
=20
Thank you J
=20
Could you please send to me a snapshot of the CVS version?
=20
With Best Regards,
=20
Rom Pereira
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rom Pereira=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look
=20
Hello Steve and All,
=20
=D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old =
interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you =
haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. =
You'll either have to wait or=20
=D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he could send.
=20
Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not =
join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start?
=20
=D8 The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too small =
as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To =
drop-down?=20
=20
Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there =
are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the =
translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation =
a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D.
=20
> Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as =
I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and =
readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same =
everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly =
and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, =
etc. However, that's Phil's call. =20
=20
I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it =
is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are =
two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it =
sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I =
can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity =
thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity.
=20
> I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with =
pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to =
be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some =
harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to =
medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is =
soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to =
reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme?
=20
I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and =
orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that =
the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who =
does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the =
following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and =
we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he =
sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the =
coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different =
themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the =
icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes.
=20
Best regards,
=20
Rom Pereira
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rom Pereira=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM
Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look
=20
Dear All,
=20
I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design =
job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your =
opinion about it:
=20
http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg
=20
I kept all 3 navigations on it:
=20
- The icons are the navigation between modules;
=20
- The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main =
menu and so on)
=20
- The items below are the same.
=20
The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a =
"slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths.
=20
Please let me know your input,
=20
Best Regards,
=20
Rom Perei
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From: Rom P. <ro...@pr...> - 2004-08-23 03:58:57
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Yeah, Sorry. ro...@pr... Thank you, Rom Pereira _____ From: web...@li... [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf Of skaill Sent: segunda-feira, 23 de agosto de 2004 00:57 To: web...@li... Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Can you give me another email and I will send snapshots there instead of sending to everyone in this list? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:46 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Dear Steve and All, > I was thinking of pull-down menus too but only as an alternate selected way because they would have to use Javascript. The rule here is ALL HTML, CSS and PHP but possibly the odd Javascript as an option where it makes > sense. In this case it makes sense. The Javascript must be tested and word in all the main browsers at the very least. Humm, you are right, I read some of this in the goals of the projects and definitely pull downs would require some JavaScript. Well, back to the design table :D * That's good about the icons being able to be different colors. Thank you :-) Could you please send to me a snapshot of the CVS version? With Best Regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hello Steve and All, * I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. You'll either have to wait or * maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? * The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To drop-down? Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, etc. However, that's Phil's call. I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity. > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. Best regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Dear All, I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your opinion about it: http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg I kept all 3 navigations on it: - The icons are the navigation between modules; - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu and so on) - The items below are the same. The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths. Please let me know your input, Best Regards, Rom Perei |
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From: Jesse P. <je...@st...> - 2004-11-09 18:24:08
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I like the idea, but it doesn't seem to flow very well with that = theme... have you checked it with other themes? or made it so that the = same can be done to fit the other themes? It looks image based - yes? or = is that CSS based? =20 =20 jesse =20 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Bice [mailto:cb...@en...] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 13:18 To: web...@li... Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Take a look at the top quick menu bar and tell me what you think. =20 http://nse.encore-inc.com/newlook.jpg =20 Chris |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 03:32:56
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Hi Rom, Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far about cvs. Others can = tell you more I'm sure. If you are using Windows then this will be more = helpful and if not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux blanks. = Also, Phil has a link to the SourceForge cvs explanation although it's = more convoluted and less practical than what I'll explain here. =20 WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download it and install it. = They have a link to it from SourceForge. Now you are about half way = there. Go into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on the General = tab. Fill in the following pserver /cvsroot/web-erp cvs.sf.net anonymous ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout read-only as well. Don't = honestly know if it's needed though. Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in web-erp in the top = area then select a local folder where it will be downloaded. Click OK = and it should download the newest cvs version to the local folder. Voila! There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I have been keeping it = simple. I rename my local folder and then download a new copy. I then = use my awesome compare tool to see what has changed and to move my = changes in from another copy I work with. Hope this helps. I really don't know why the SourceForge instructions = have to be so impractical. They are enough to scare anyone off for = good, I swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you can go from = there. Some others may be able to add some helpful hints. The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics you have changed and = to give them to Phil. He will look it over and put what he decides into = the cvs. Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't agree with = him about...hahaha...just kidding. After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is good to download it and = test to make sure whatever you did that he incorporated works correctly. = Steve =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hello Steve and All, =20 =D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old = interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you = haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. = You'll either have to wait or=20 =D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. =20 Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not = join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? =20 =D8 The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too = small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that = Go To drop-down?=20 =20 Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there = are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the = translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation = a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. =20 > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I = think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and = readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same = everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly = and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, = etc. However, that's Phil's call. =20 =20 I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is = Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two = different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it = sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I = can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity = thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity. =20 > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with = pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to = be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some = harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to = medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is = soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to = reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? =20 I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange = makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the = pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does = not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: = with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and we can do = (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me = the vector version of his icons so we can change the coloring on them) = different versions of the icons for the different themes. So we can have = 10 different versions of the coloring of the icons and much more = combinations of the CSS schemes. =20 Best regards, =20 Rom Pereira ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look =20 Dear All, =20 I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design = job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your = opinion about it: =20 http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg =20 I kept all 3 navigations on it: =20 - The icons are the navigation between modules; =20 - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu = and so on) =20 - The items below are the same. =20 The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" = version that will fit in smaller screen widths. =20 Please let me know your input, =20 Best Regards, =20 Rom Perei |
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From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-23 06:58:07
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cvs update this updates your copy to the latest files and only downloads the files = that have changed so if only 1 file is changed then you dont need to get = the whole lot downloaded again. I found the sourceforge instructions ok but then I guess I am using the = command line more. Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hi Rom, Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far about cvs. Others = can tell you more I'm sure. If you are using Windows then this will be = more helpful and if not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux = blanks. Also, Phil has a link to the SourceForge cvs explanation = although it's more convoluted and less practical than what I'll explain = here. =20 WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download it and install it. = They have a link to it from SourceForge. Now you are about half way = there. Go into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on the General = tab. Fill in the following pserver /cvsroot/web-erp cvs.sf.net anonymous ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout read-only as well. = Don't honestly know if it's needed though. Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in web-erp in the top = area then select a local folder where it will be downloaded. Click OK = and it should download the newest cvs version to the local folder. Voila! There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I have been keeping it = simple. I rename my local folder and then download a new copy. I then = use my awesome compare tool to see what has changed and to move my = changes in from another copy I work with. Hope this helps. I really don't know why the SourceForge instructions = have to be so impractical. They are enough to scare anyone off for = good, I swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you can go from = there. Some others may be able to add some helpful hints. The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics you have changed = and to give them to Phil. He will look it over and put what he decides = into the cvs. Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't agree = with him about...hahaha...just kidding. After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is good to download it = and test to make sure whatever you did that he incorporated works = correctly.=20 Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hello Steve and All, =20 =D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old = interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you = haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. = You'll either have to wait or=20 =D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. =20 Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not = join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? =20 =D8 The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too = small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that = Go To drop-down?=20 =20 Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there = are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the = translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation = a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. =20 > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as = I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and = readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same = everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly = and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, = etc. However, that's Phil's call. =20 =20 I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it = is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are = two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it = sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I = can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity = thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity. =20 > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with = pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to = be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some = harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to = medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is = soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to = reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? =20 I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and = orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that = the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who = does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the = following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and = we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he = sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the = coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different = themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the = icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. =20 Best regards, =20 Rom Pereira ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look =20 Dear All, =20 I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design = job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your = opinion about it: =20 http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg =20 I kept all 3 navigations on it: =20 - The icons are the navigation between modules; =20 - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main = menu and so on) =20 - The items below are the same. =20 The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a = "slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths. =20 Please let me know your input, =20 Best Regards, =20 Rom Perei |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 09:44:58
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I guess if you changed any of the files in your local version of the cvs =
then did an update it would overwrite your changes. Is that correct?
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS
cvs update
this updates your copy to the latest files and only downloads the =
files that have changed so if only 1 file is changed then you dont need =
to get the whole lot downloaded again.
I found the sourceforge instructions ok but then I guess I am using =
the command line more.
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look
Hi Rom,
Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far about cvs. Others =
can tell you more I'm sure. If you are using Windows then this will be =
more helpful and if not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux =
blanks. Also, Phil has a link to the SourceForge cvs explanation =
although it's more convoluted and less practical than what I'll explain =
here. =20
WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download it and install it. =
They have a link to it from SourceForge. Now you are about half way =
there. Go into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on the General =
tab. Fill in the following
pserver
/cvsroot/web-erp
cvs.sf.net
anonymous
ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp
I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout read-only as well. =
Don't honestly know if it's needed though.
Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in web-erp in the top =
area then select a local folder where it will be downloaded. Click OK =
and it should download the newest cvs version to the local folder.
Voila!
There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I have been keeping it =
simple. I rename my local folder and then download a new copy. I then =
use my awesome compare tool to see what has changed and to move my =
changes in from another copy I work with.
Hope this helps. I really don't know why the SourceForge =
instructions have to be so impractical. They are enough to scare anyone =
off for good, I swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you can =
go from there.
Some others may be able to add some helpful hints.
The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics you have changed =
and to give them to Phil. He will look it over and put what he decides =
into the cvs. Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't agree =
with him about...hahaha...just kidding.
After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is good to download it =
and test to make sure whatever you did that he incorporated works =
correctly.=20
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rom Pereira=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look
Hello Steve and All,
=20
=D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old =
interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you =
haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. =
You'll either have to wait or=20
=D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he could send.
=20
Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not =
join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start?
=20
=D8 The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too =
small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that =
Go To drop-down?=20
=20
Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since =
there are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and =
2) the translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules =
Navigation a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D.
=20
> Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP =
as I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto =
and readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same =
everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly =
and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, =
etc. However, that's Phil's call. =20
=20
I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it =
is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are =
two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it =
sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I =
can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity =
thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity.
=20
> I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with =
pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to =
be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some =
harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to =
medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is =
soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to =
reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme?
=20
I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and =
orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that =
the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who =
does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the =
following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and =
we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he =
sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the =
coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different =
themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the =
icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes.
=20
Best regards,
=20
Rom Pereira
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rom Pereira=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM
Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look
=20
Dear All,
=20
I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the =
design job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know =
your opinion about it:
=20
http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg
=20
I kept all 3 navigations on it:
=20
- The icons are the navigation between modules;
=20
- The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main =
menu and so on)
=20
- The items below are the same.
=20
The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a =
"slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths.
=20
Please let me know your input,
=20
Best Regards,
=20
Rom Perei
|
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From: Stins, D. <DR...@Zi...> - 2004-08-23 19:41:06
|
Hoi All, Yes, cvs is tough when you start with it. When you are using windows, then I recommend tortoise as cvs client. It's not as advanced as wincvs, but it is much easier to use. It is integrated with the file explorer. All commands are in the popup me= nu from a right click with your mouse. Also a difference tool is available. For other information (mainly cvs command line commands) , you can join t= he cvs list inf...@gn.... CVS helps you to keep control over your sources when you use it right. It would be possible to setup a developers branch (release) a test releas= e, a beta release, production release, ... CVS enables also to develop in parallel by creating branches for: - translations - userinterface - tax improvements - When one branch is finished, you can merge it with the trunk and create a new weberp release without having to wait for to finish the other branche= s in progress. Ofcourse you can get complicated situations with version you can't merge automatically, so it needs to be coordinated carefully (in practise: merg= e regularly everywhere) to reduce situations where you need to merge differ= ent branches manually. When the project keeps growing, then we would be glad that we are able to use cvs in a proper method to keep control on the sources. With best regards, Dick Stins ----- Original Message ----- From: skaill To: web...@li... Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hi Rom, Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far about cvs. Others can t= ell you more I'm sure. If you are using Windows then this will be more helpf= ul and if not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux blanks. Also, P= hil has a link to the SourceForge cvs explanation although it's more convolut= ed and less practical than what I'll explain here. WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download it and install it. They have a link to it from SourceForge. Now you are about half way there. G= o into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on the General tab. Fill = in the following pserver /cvsroot/web-erp cvs.sf.net anonymous ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout read-only as well. Don't honestly know if it's needed though. Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in web-erp in the top area then select a local folder where it will be downloaded. Click OK and it should download the newest cvs version to the local folder. Voila! There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I have been keeping it simp= le. I rename my local folder and then download a new copy. I then use my awesome compare tool to see what has changed and to move my changes in fr= om another copy I work with. Hope this helps. I really don't know why the SourceForge instructions ha= ve to be so impractical. They are enough to scare anyone off for good, I swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you can go from there. Some others may be able to add some helpful hints. The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics you have changed and = to give them to Phil. He will look it over and put what he decides into the cvs. Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't agree with him about...hahaha...just kidding. After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is good to download it and t= est to make sure whatever you did that he incorporated works correctly. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira To: web...@li... Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hello Steve and All, =D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old interfac= e. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you haven't, the= y seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. You'll either have = to wait or =D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not join t= he CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? =D8 The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too small = as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To drop-dow= n? Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there are = 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation = a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I thi= nk any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same everywhere an= d without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly and long term mean= s it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, etc. However, that's Phil's call. I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is Phi= l's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two differen= t word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity thing. One cannot cha= nge its name otherwise it looses it identity. > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange ma= kes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the pastels a= re more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does not like paste= ls can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: with CSS it is easy t= o change the main interface colors and we can do (as soon as we decide to u= se the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me the vector version of his icons= so we can change the coloring on them) different versions of the icons for t= he different themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. Best regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira To: web...@li... Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Dear All, I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design job, s= o please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your opinion about it: http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg I kept all 3 navigations on it: - The icons are the navigation between modules; - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu and = so on) - The items below are the same. The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" vers= ion that will fit in smaller screen widths. Please let me know your input, Best Regards, Rom Perei |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 20:40:29
|
Thanks for all the info, Dick. I will look at those other cvs clients. The only concern I would have is if it actually tries to intelligently merge code within the same file. I've seen the damage done by these types of mergers and would try to avoid doing that part. There is just no way for a machine to do that intelligently and I could explain why but it would be long winded. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stins, Dick" <DR...@Zi...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hoi All, Yes, cvs is tough when you start with it. When you are using windows, then I recommend tortoise as cvs client. It's not as advanced as wincvs, but it is much easier to use. It is integrated with the file explorer. All commands are in the popup menu from a right click with your mouse. Also a difference tool is available. For other information (mainly cvs command line commands) , you can join the cvs list inf...@gn.... CVS helps you to keep control over your sources when you use it right. It would be possible to setup a developers branch (release) a test release, a beta release, production release, ... CVS enables also to develop in parallel by creating branches for: - translations - userinterface - tax improvements - When one branch is finished, you can merge it with the trunk and create a new weberp release without having to wait for to finish the other branches in progress. Ofcourse you can get complicated situations with version you can't merge automatically, so it needs to be coordinated carefully (in practise: merge regularly everywhere) to reduce situations where you need to merge different branches manually. When the project keeps growing, then we would be glad that we are able to use cvs in a proper method to keep control on the sources. With best regards, Dick Stins ----- Original Message ----- From: skaill To: web...@li... Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hi Rom, Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far about cvs. Others can tell you more I'm sure. If you are using Windows then this will be more helpful and if not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux blanks. Also, Phil has a link to the SourceForge cvs explanation although it's more convoluted and less practical than what I'll explain here. WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download it and install it. They have a link to it from SourceForge. Now you are about half way there. Go into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on the General tab. Fill in the following pserver /cvsroot/web-erp cvs.sf.net anonymous ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout read-only as well. Don't honestly know if it's needed though. Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in web-erp in the top area then select a local folder where it will be downloaded. Click OK and it should download the newest cvs version to the local folder. Voila! There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I have been keeping it simple. I rename my local folder and then download a new copy. I then use my awesome compare tool to see what has changed and to move my changes in from another copy I work with. Hope this helps. I really don't know why the SourceForge instructions have to be so impractical. They are enough to scare anyone off for good, I swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you can go from there. Some others may be able to add some helpful hints. The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics you have changed and to give them to Phil. He will look it over and put what he decides into the cvs. Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't agree with him about...hahaha...just kidding. After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is good to download it and test to make sure whatever you did that he incorporated works correctly. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira To: web...@li... Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hello Steve and All, Ø I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. You'll either have to wait or Ø maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? Ø The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To drop-down? Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, etc. However, that's Phil's call. I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity. > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. Best regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira To: web...@li... Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Dear All, I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your opinion about it: http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg I kept all 3 navigations on it: - The icons are the navigation between modules; - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu and so on) - The items below are the same. The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths. 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From: Stins, D. <DR...@Zi...> - 2004-08-23 21:29:51
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CVS checks for conflicts and when it finds some, then it refuses to merge= . You have to merge then manually, because two developers changed the same lines of the code. The amounts of conflicts that it does detect can be reduced by merging frequently to all branches. Ofcourse does testing find the final issues, but when we use CVS right th= en I am pretty sure that those issues are in 99% of the cases not caused by CVS. But ofcourse there will be a learning curve how to use CVS in a proper wa= y. When you still have some doubts, then please discuss it at inf...@gn.... I would be pleased when you are able to define exactly in which cases CVS damages the merging process without returning an error/warning. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > Thanks for all the info, Dick. I will look at those other cvs clients. > > The only concern I would have is if it actually tries to intelligently merge > code within the same file. I've seen the damage done by these types of > mergers and would try to avoid doing that part. There is just no way f= or a > machine to do that intelligently and I could explain why but it would b= e > long winded. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stins, Dick" <DR...@Zi...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > > > Hoi All, > > Yes, cvs is tough when you start with it. > > When you are using windows, then I recommend tortoise as cvs client. It= 's > not as advanced as wincvs, but it is much easier to use. > > It is integrated with the file explorer. All commands are in the popup menu > from a right click with your mouse. Also a difference tool is available= . > > For other information (mainly cvs command line commands) , you can join the > cvs list inf...@gn.... > > CVS helps you to keep control over your sources when you use it right. > > It would be possible to setup a developers branch (release) a test release, > a beta release, production release, ... > > CVS enables also to develop in parallel by creating branches for: > - translations > - userinterface > - tax improvements > - > > When one branch is finished, you can merge it with the trunk and create= a > new weberp release without having to wait for to finish the other branc= hes > in progress. > > Ofcourse you can get complicated situations with version you can't merg= e > automatically, so it needs to be coordinated carefully (in practise: me= rge > regularly everywhere) to reduce situations where you need to merge different > branches manually. > > When the project keeps growing, then we would be glad that we are able = to > use cvs in a proper method to keep control on the sources. > > With best regards, > > Dick Stins > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: skaill > To: web...@li... > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:33 AM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > > > Hi Rom, > > Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far about cvs. Others can tell > you more I'm sure. If you are using Windows then this will be more helpful > and if not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux blanks. Also, Phil > has a link to the SourceForge cvs explanation although it's more convoluted > and less practical than what I'll explain here. > > WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download it and install it. Th= ey > have a link to it from SourceForge. Now you are about half way there. = Go > into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on the General tab. Fil= l in > the following > > pserver > /cvsroot/web-erp > cvs.sf.net > anonymous > ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp > > I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout read-only as well. Don'= t > honestly know if it's needed though. > > Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in web-erp in the top ar= ea > then select a local folder where it will be downloaded. Click OK and i= t > should download the newest cvs version to the local folder. > > Voila! > > There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I have been keeping it simple. > I rename my local folder and then download a new copy. I then use my > awesome compare tool to see what has changed and to move my changes in from > another copy I work with. > > Hope this helps. I really don't know why the SourceForge instructions have > to be so impractical. They are enough to scare anyone off for good, I > swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you can go from there. > > Some others may be able to add some helpful hints. > > The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics you have changed an= d to > give them to Phil. He will look it over and put what he decides into t= he > cvs. Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't agree with him > about...hahaha...just kidding. > > After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is good to download it and test > to make sure whatever you did that he incorporated works correctly. > > Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rom Pereira > To: web...@li... > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM > Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > > > Hello Steve and All, > > =D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old interf= ace. > Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you haven't, t= hey > seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. You'll either hav= e to > wait or > =D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. > > Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not join the > CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? > > =D8 The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too smal= l as it > displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To drop-down? > > Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there ar= e 2 > concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the > translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigatio= n a > pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. > > > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I think > any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and readily > communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same everywhere = and > without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly and long term me= ans > it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, etc. However, that's > Phil's call. > > I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is Phil's > call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two differ= ent > word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like o= ne > word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I can be wrong), t= o > show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity thing. One cannot change > its name otherwise it looses it identity. > > > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with past= el > (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to be the > "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some harder)a= nd > greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to medium blues, > greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and > browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to reshade the > graphics into a pastel > color scheme? > > I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange makes > it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the pastels are > more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does not like pastels > can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: with CSS it is easy= to > change the main interface colors and we can do (as soon as we decide to use > the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me the vector version of his ico= ns so > we can change the coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the > different themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring = of > the icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. > > Best regards, > > Rom Pereira > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rom Pereira > To: web...@li... > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM > Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > > Dear All, > > I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design job,= so > please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your opinion abo= ut > it: > > http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg > > I kept all 3 navigations on it: > > - The icons are the navigation between modules; > > - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu an= d so > on) > > - The items below are the same. > > The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" version > that will fit in smaller screen widths. > > Please let me know your input, > > Best Regards, > > Rom Perei > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 21:39:15
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I have a couple of good tests for it ;) Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stins, Dick" <DR...@Zi...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look CVS checks for conflicts and when it finds some, then it refuses to merge. You have to merge then manually, because two developers changed the same lines of the code. The amounts of conflicts that it does detect can be reduced by merging frequently to all branches. Ofcourse does testing find the final issues, but when we use CVS right then I am pretty sure that those issues are in 99% of the cases not caused by CVS. But ofcourse there will be a learning curve how to use CVS in a proper way. When you still have some doubts, then please discuss it at inf...@gn.... I would be pleased when you are able to define exactly in which cases CVS damages the merging process without returning an error/warning. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > Thanks for all the info, Dick. I will look at those other cvs clients. > > The only concern I would have is if it actually tries to intelligently merge > code within the same file. I've seen the damage done by these types of > mergers and would try to avoid doing that part. There is just no way for a > machine to do that intelligently and I could explain why but it would be > long winded. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stins, Dick" <DR...@Zi...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > > > Hoi All, > > Yes, cvs is tough when you start with it. > > When you are using windows, then I recommend tortoise as cvs client. It's > not as advanced as wincvs, but it is much easier to use. > > It is integrated with the file explorer. All commands are in the popup menu > from a right click with your mouse. Also a difference tool is available. > > For other information (mainly cvs command line commands) , you can join the > cvs list inf...@gn.... > > CVS helps you to keep control over your sources when you use it right. > > It would be possible to setup a developers branch (release) a test release, > a beta release, production release, ... > > CVS enables also to develop in parallel by creating branches for: > - translations > - userinterface > - tax improvements > - > > When one branch is finished, you can merge it with the trunk and create a > new weberp release without having to wait for to finish the other branches > in progress. > > Ofcourse you can get complicated situations with version you can't merge > automatically, so it needs to be coordinated carefully (in practise: merge > regularly everywhere) to reduce situations where you need to merge different > branches manually. > > When the project keeps growing, then we would be glad that we are able to > use cvs in a proper method to keep control on the sources. > > With best regards, > > Dick Stins > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: skaill > To: web...@li... > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:33 AM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > > > Hi Rom, > > Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far about cvs. Others can tell > you more I'm sure. If you are using Windows then this will be more helpful > and if not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux blanks. Also, Phil > has a link to the SourceForge cvs explanation although it's more convoluted > and less practical than what I'll explain here. > > WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download it and install it. They > have a link to it from SourceForge. Now you are about half way there. Go > into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on the General tab. Fill in > the following > > pserver > /cvsroot/web-erp > cvs.sf.net > anonymous > ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp > > I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout read-only as well. Don't > honestly know if it's needed though. > > Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in web-erp in the top area > then select a local folder where it will be downloaded. Click OK and it > should download the newest cvs version to the local folder. > > Voila! > > There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I have been keeping it simple. > I rename my local folder and then download a new copy. I then use my > awesome compare tool to see what has changed and to move my changes in from > another copy I work with. > > Hope this helps. I really don't know why the SourceForge instructions have > to be so impractical. They are enough to scare anyone off for good, I > swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you can go from there. > > Some others may be able to add some helpful hints. > > The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics you have changed and to > give them to Phil. He will look it over and put what he decides into the > cvs. Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't agree with him > about...hahaha...just kidding. > > After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is good to download it and test > to make sure whatever you did that he incorporated works correctly. > > Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rom Pereira > To: web...@li... > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM > Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > > > Hello Steve and All, > > Ø I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old interface. > Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you haven't, they > seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. You'll either have to > wait or > Ø maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. > > Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not join the > CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? > > Ø The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too small as it > displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To drop-down? > > Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there are 2 > concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the > translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation a > pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. > > > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I think > any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and readily > communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same everywhere and > without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly and long term means > it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, etc. However, that's > Phil's call. > > I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is Phil's > call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two different > word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like one > word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I can be wrong), to > show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity thing. One cannot change > its name otherwise it looses it identity. > > > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with pastel > (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to be the > "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some harder)and > greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to medium blues, > greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and > browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to reshade the > graphics into a pastel > color scheme? > > I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange makes > it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the pastels are > more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does not like pastels > can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: with CSS it is easy to > change the main interface colors and we can do (as soon as we decide to use > the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me the vector version of his icons so > we can change the coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the > different themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of > the icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. > > Best regards, > > Rom Pereira > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rom Pereira > To: web...@li... > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM > Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > > Dear All, > > I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design job, so > please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your opinion about > it: > > http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg > > I kept all 3 navigations on it: > > - The icons are the navigation between modules; > > - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu and so > on) > > - The items below are the same. > > The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" version > that will fit in smaller screen widths. > > Please let me know your input, > > Best Regards, > > Rom Perei > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 03:38:34
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I was thinking of pull-down menus too but only as an alternate selected =
way because they would have to use Javascript. The rule here is ALL =
HTML, CSS and PHP but possibly the odd Javascript as an option where it =
makes sense. In this case it makes sense. The Javascript must be =
tested and word in all the main browsers at the very least.
That's good about the icons being able to be different colors.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rom Pereira=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look
Hello Steve and All,
=20
=D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old =
interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you =
haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. =
You'll either have to wait or=20
=D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he could send.
=20
Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not =
join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start?
=20
=D8 The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too =
small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that =
Go To drop-down?=20
=20
Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there =
are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the =
translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation =
a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D.
=20
> Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I =
think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and =
readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same =
everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly =
and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, =
etc. However, that's Phil's call. =20
=20
I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is =
Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two =
different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it =
sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I =
can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity =
thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity.
=20
> I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with =
pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to =
be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some =
harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to =
medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is =
soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to =
reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme?
=20
I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange =
makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the =
pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does =
not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: =
with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and we can do =
(as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me =
the vector version of his icons so we can change the coloring on them) =
different versions of the icons for the different themes. So we can have =
10 different versions of the coloring of the icons and much more =
combinations of the CSS schemes.
=20
Best regards,
=20
Rom Pereira
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rom Pereira=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM
Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look
=20
Dear All,
=20
I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design =
job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your =
opinion about it:
=20
http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg
=20
I kept all 3 navigations on it:
=20
- The icons are the navigation between modules;
=20
- The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu =
and so on)
=20
- The items below are the same.
=20
The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" =
version that will fit in smaller screen widths.
=20
Please let me know your input,
=20
Best Regards,
=20
Rom Perei
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From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-23 06:32:37
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> Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I = think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and = readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same = everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly = and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, = etc. However, that's Phil's call. =20 This is marketing stuff - I bow out on this call - make the logo how you = guys like - this was Shane Barnaby's look - it looks good to me but = judging from Rom's first hack at the design I am confident that Rom and = his friend will come up with something better. The nature of webERP is = that it gets another + every couple of weeks!! Should now be = webERP++++++++++. My wife chooses the colours round here - I like calm. Phil |
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From: Phil D. <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-23 10:16:45
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Not sure - I think it would alert to differences somehow ? Phil On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 21:45, skaill wrote: > I guess if you changed any of the files in your local version of th= e > cvs then did an update it would overwrite your changes. Is that > correct? > =20 > Steve > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Daintrees > To: web...@li... > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:59 AM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS > =20 > cvs update > =20 > this updates your copy to the latest files and only downloa= ds > the files that have changed so if only 1 file is changed th= en > you dont need to get the whole lot downloaded again. > =20 > I found the sourceforge instructions ok but then I guess I = am > using the command line more. > =20 > Phil > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: skaill > To: web...@li... > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > =20 > Hi Rom, > =20 > Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far ab= out > cvs. Others can tell you more I'm sure. If you ar= e > using Windows then this will be more helpful and if > not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux > blanks. Also, Phil has a link to the SourceForge c= vs > explanation although it's more convoluted and > less practical than what I'll explain here. =20 > =20 > WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download > it and install it. They have a link to it from > SourceForge. Now you are about half way there. Go > into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on t= he > General tab. Fill in the following > =20 > pserver > /cvsroot/web-erp > cvs.sf.net > anonymous > ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp > =20 > I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout > read-only as well. Don't honestly know if it's nee= ded > though. > =20 > Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in > web-erp in the top area then select a local folder > where it will be downloaded. Click OK and it shoul= d > download the newest cvs version to the local folder= . > =20 > Voila! > =20 > There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I hav= e > been keeping it simple. I rename my local folder a= nd > then download a new copy. I then use my awesome > compare tool to see what has changed and to move my > changes in from another copy I work with. > =20 > Hope this helps. I really don't know why the > SourceForge instructions have to be so impractical.= =20 > They are enough to scare anyone off for good, I > swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you > can go from there. > =20 > Some others may be able to add some helpful hints. > =20 > The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics > you have changed and to give them to Phil. He will > look it over and put what he decides into the cvs.= =20 > Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't > agree with him about...hahaha...just kidding. > =20 > After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is goo= d > to download it and test to make sure whatever you d= id > that he incorporated works correctly.=20 > =20 > Steve > =20 > =20 > =20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Rom Pereira > To: web...@li...= t > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM > Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > =20 > =20 > Hello Steve and All, > =20 > =20 > =20 > =D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're > working from the old interface. Have you > downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way= , > if you haven't, they seem to be having trou= ble > with it for the last week. You'll either h= ave > to wait or=20 > =20 > =D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he cou= ld > send. > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > Yes, I did this based on the download versi= on > of webERP. I did not join the CVS efforts y= et > Where should I start? > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =D8 The graphics are very good. The = font > on the menu is too small as it displays on > mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in t= hat > Go To drop-down?=20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing so= me > work on it since there are 2 concerns in th= at > part: 1) the description of the icons and 2= ) > the translation of it. I was thinking in ma= ybe > making the Modules Navigation a pull down > menu. I dont know. All inputs are welcome := D. > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign= at > the end of webERP as I think any punctuatio= n > makes it difficult for people to catch onto > and readily communicate. I believe a name > that is represented the same everywhere and > without > anything that hinders remembering= it > quickly and long term means it spreads > quicker. Especially in web searches, etc.= =20 > However, that's Phil's call. =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > I just copy the actual way you write down t= he > logo. As you said it is Phils call. I just = did > a little redesign since web and erp are two > different word and in languages like mine > (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like one w= ord > So it would be important, in my point of vi= ew > (I can be wrong), to show that it is 2 word= s I > agree about the identity thing. One cannot > change its name otherwise it looses it > identity. > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > > I find these days that several of the erp > vendors have gone with pastel (calmer) shad= es > as a color scheme. In fact earth tones see= m > to be the "norm". Accpac has varying shade= s > of soft browns, blues (some harder)and grey= s > > including their icons. Great Plains uses s= oft > to medium blues, greys, browns and soft, so= rt > of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and > browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is = it > possible to reshade the graphics into a pas= tel > > color scheme? > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > I just copy and paste the icons in the > interface The green and orange makes it mor= e > commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with = you > that the pastels are more neutral and it is > hard that people hates it. Who does not lik= e > pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea i= s > the following: with CSS it is easy to chang= e > the main interface colors and we can do (as > soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons > and the he sends to me the vector version o= f > his icons so we can change the coloring on > them) different versions of the icons for t= he > different themes. So we can have 10 differe= nt > versions of the coloring of the icons and m= uch > more combinations of the CSS schemes. > =20 > =20 > =20 > Best regards, > =20 > =20 > =20 > Rom Pereira > =20 > =20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > =20 > =20 > From: Rom Pereira > =20 > =20 > To: > web...@li...urceforg= e.net > =20 > =20 > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:1= 2 > AM > =20 > =20 > Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New L= ook > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > Dear All, > =20 > =20 > =20 > I am designing a new look for the > interface (I am doing the design jo= b, > so please dont mind the graphics) a= nd > would like to know your opinion abo= ut > it: > =20 > =20 > =20 > http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_0= 1_18.08.2004.jpg > =20 > =20 > =20 > I kept all 3 navigations on it: > =20 > =20 > =20 > - The icons are the navigation betw= een > modules; > =20 > =20 > =20 > - The pull down menu is the navigat= ion > inside the modules (main menu and s= o > on) > =20 > =20 > =20 > - The items below are the same. > =20 > =20 > =20 > The interface is good for 800x600, = but > it is possible to do a slim version > that will fit in smaller screen > widths. > =20 > =20 > =20 > Please let me know your input, > =20 > =20 > =20 > Best Regards, > =20 > =20 > =20 > Rom Perei > =20 > =20 |
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