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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-01 14:34:40
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I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For those who = would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. Please = make many, many comments good or bad. While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code and cleaned it = up, especially the css. There were several places that had commands = which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead someone to = think that what they were seeing should be different. This is typical = and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. I think it = is easier to read and understand now. Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or all of it we can = get it into the base product. Let me know. I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do drop-down menus = and allow a user option to specify whether they see the interface = displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down menus it = would allow everything to be accessible all the time with little screen = space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access options become = basically irrelevant with drop-down menus. =20 Steve |
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From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-01 20:14:37
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I guess this would be java? If it could be made to work in all forms of java then it would be a = useful addition - I have tried to avoid it so far and have no knowlege = personally. It is nice not to depend on java for anything. I agree it = would be good. I would like to clean the css if you send me the files.=20 I like the vertical oreintation of the menus - I think it needs some = spacing between the menu items - they all merge together. As previously mentioned I am not so keen on the preponderance of = question marks. I think this is probably superseeded following our = discussion on the help. I already added the user and database to the titles - in 2.9 Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:35 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For those who = would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. Please = make many, many comments good or bad. While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code and cleaned it = up, especially the css. There were several places that had commands = which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead someone to = think that what they were seeing should be different. This is typical = and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. I think it = is easier to read and understand now. Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or all of it we can = get it into the base product. Let me know. I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do drop-down menus = and allow a user option to specify whether they see the interface = displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down menus it = would allow everything to be accessible all the time with little screen = space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access options become = basically irrelevant with drop-down menus. Steve |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-01 23:33:53
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Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of your comments may = be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have some time to look = again. No question marks anymore and they were only temporary before I = was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think the way you did = with the one Help at the top is good as long as we document clearly, = possibly in the first online help screen, that the help will change = contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the menu_group_items = or do you mean the main_menu? The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I did testing in = several browsers on this site I created www.goldenwitch.com they worked = on all. Some people with various browsers could try going to that site = to see if the drop-down menus work perfectly. It is minimal and very = standard javascript. I agree with avoiding javascript, java and any = other language as much as possible but you can't make drop-down menus = unless you have code at the client side. I think ALL languages besides = PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in the config or elsewhere. I still have to get up with the cvs thing. I have it installed but = haven't tried it out. When I do something it's all at once so one day = soon I'll be doing cvs and will send you. I saw the user and database in the newest demo. Something else I = noticed though was that the Help gave an error. Can't remember exactly = where or why right now though. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I guess this would be java? If it could be made to work in all forms of java then it would be a = useful addition - I have tried to avoid it so far and have no knowlege = personally. It is nice not to depend on java for anything. I agree it = would be good. I would like to clean the css if you send me the files.=20 I like the vertical oreintation of the menus - I think it needs some = spacing between the menu items - they all merge together. As previously mentioned I am not so keen on the preponderance of = question marks. I think this is probably superseeded following our = discussion on the help. I already added the user and database to the titles - in 2.9 Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:35 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For those who = would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. Please = make many, many comments good or bad. While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code and cleaned = it up, especially the css. There were several places that had commands = which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead someone to = think that what they were seeing should be different. This is typical = and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. I think it = is easier to read and understand now. Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or all of it we = can get it into the base product. Let me know. I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do drop-down = menus and allow a user option to specify whether they see the interface = displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down menus it = would allow everything to be accessible all the time with little screen = space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access options become = basically irrelevant with drop-down menus. Steve |
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From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-02 01:06:45
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By menu items I mean the links to action a specific option. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of your comments = may be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have some time to = look again. No question marks anymore and they were only temporary = before I was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think the way = you did with the one Help at the top is good as long as we document = clearly, possibly in the first online help screen, that the help will = change contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the = menu_group_items or do you mean the main_menu? The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I did testing = in several browsers on this site I created www.goldenwitch.com they = worked on all. Some people with various browsers could try going to = that site to see if the drop-down menus work perfectly. It is minimal = and very standard javascript. I agree with avoiding javascript, java = and any other language as much as possible but you can't make drop-down = menus unless you have code at the client side. I think ALL languages = besides PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in the config or elsewhere. I still have to get up with the cvs thing. I have it installed but = haven't tried it out. When I do something it's all at once so one day = soon I'll be doing cvs and will send you. I saw the user and database in the newest demo. Something else I = noticed though was that the Help gave an error. Can't remember exactly = where or why right now though. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I guess this would be java? If it could be made to work in all forms of java then it would be a = useful addition - I have tried to avoid it so far and have no knowlege = personally. It is nice not to depend on java for anything. I agree it = would be good. I would like to clean the css if you send me the files.=20 I like the vertical oreintation of the menus - I think it needs some = spacing between the menu items - they all merge together. As previously mentioned I am not so keen on the preponderance of = question marks. I think this is probably superseeded following our = discussion on the help. I already added the user and database to the titles - in 2.9 Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:35 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For those = who would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. = Please make many, many comments good or bad. While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code and cleaned = it up, especially the css. There were several places that had commands = which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead someone to = think that what they were seeing should be different. This is typical = and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. I think it = is easier to read and understand now. Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or all of it we = can get it into the base product. Let me know. I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do drop-down = menus and allow a user option to specify whether they see the interface = displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down menus it = would allow everything to be accessible all the time with little screen = space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access options become = basically irrelevant with drop-down menus. Steve |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-02 16:40:24
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Refined some more at http://weberp.gocom.ca including spacing out the = action links. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface By menu items I mean the links to action a specific option. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of your comments = may be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have some time to = look again. No question marks anymore and they were only temporary = before I was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think the way = you did with the one Help at the top is good as long as we document = clearly, possibly in the first online help screen, that the help will = change contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the = menu_group_items or do you mean the main_menu? The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I did = testing in several browsers on this site I created www.goldenwitch.com = they worked on all. Some people with various browsers could try going = to that site to see if the drop-down menus work perfectly. It is = minimal and very standard javascript. I agree with avoiding javascript, = java and any other language as much as possible but you can't make = drop-down menus unless you have code at the client side. I think ALL = languages besides PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in the config or = elsewhere. I still have to get up with the cvs thing. I have it installed but = haven't tried it out. When I do something it's all at once so one day = soon I'll be doing cvs and will send you. I saw the user and database in the newest demo. Something else I = noticed though was that the Help gave an error. Can't remember exactly = where or why right now though. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I guess this would be java? If it could be made to work in all forms of java then it would be = a useful addition - I have tried to avoid it so far and have no knowlege = personally. It is nice not to depend on java for anything. I agree it = would be good. I would like to clean the css if you send me the files.=20 I like the vertical oreintation of the menus - I think it needs = some spacing between the menu items - they all merge together. As previously mentioned I am not so keen on the preponderance of = question marks. I think this is probably superseeded following our = discussion on the help. I already added the user and database to the titles - in 2.9 Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:35 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For those = who would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. = Please make many, many comments good or bad. While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code and = cleaned it up, especially the css. There were several places that had = commands which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead = someone to think that what they were seeing should be different. This = is typical and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. = I think it is easier to read and understand now. Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or all of it = we can get it into the base product. Let me know. I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do drop-down = menus and allow a user option to specify whether they see the interface = displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down menus it = would allow everything to be accessible all the time with little screen = space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access options become = basically irrelevant with drop-down menus. Steve |
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From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-02 20:08:20
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Looks better on a 1024x768 than on a 600x800 screen. The inquiries and = reports heading has to wrap onto two lines. The spaced links are less intimidating block of text too. Great! Notice that the heading/title of the page is missing? Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:40 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface Refined some more at http://weberp.gocom.ca including spacing out the = action links. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface By menu items I mean the links to action a specific option. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of your = comments may be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have some = time to look again. No question marks anymore and they were only = temporary before I was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think = the way you did with the one Help at the top is good as long as we = document clearly, possibly in the first online help screen, that the = help will change contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the = menu_group_items or do you mean the main_menu? The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I did = testing in several browsers on this site I created www.goldenwitch.com = they worked on all. Some people with various browsers could try going = to that site to see if the drop-down menus work perfectly. It is = minimal and very standard javascript. I agree with avoiding javascript, = java and any other language as much as possible but you can't make = drop-down menus unless you have code at the client side. I think ALL = languages besides PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in the config or = elsewhere. I still have to get up with the cvs thing. I have it installed = but haven't tried it out. When I do something it's all at once so one = day soon I'll be doing cvs and will send you. I saw the user and database in the newest demo. Something else I = noticed though was that the Help gave an error. Can't remember exactly = where or why right now though. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I guess this would be java? If it could be made to work in all forms of java then it would = be a useful addition - I have tried to avoid it so far and have no = knowlege personally. It is nice not to depend on java for anything. I = agree it would be good. I would like to clean the css if you send me the files.=20 I like the vertical oreintation of the menus - I think it needs = some spacing between the menu items - they all merge together. As previously mentioned I am not so keen on the preponderance of = question marks. I think this is probably superseeded following our = discussion on the help. I already added the user and database to the titles - in 2.9 Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:35 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For = those who would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. = Please make many, many comments good or bad. While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code and = cleaned it up, especially the css. There were several places that had = commands which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead = someone to think that what they were seeing should be different. This = is typical and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. = I think it is easier to read and understand now. Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or all of it = we can get it into the base product. Let me know. I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do = drop-down menus and allow a user option to specify whether they see the = interface displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down = menus it would allow everything to be accessible all the time with = little screen space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access = options become basically irrelevant with drop-down menus. Steve |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-02 21:09:27
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Ok, I think the 800x600 should not have Inquiries and Reports wrapping = underneath the image now which should look better. At the same time I = made all the headings look better in positioning. Please take another look here http://weberp.gocom.ca to confirm when you = get a chance. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface Looks better on a 1024x768 than on a 600x800 screen. The inquiries and = reports heading has to wrap onto two lines. The spaced links are less intimidating block of text too. Great! Notice that the heading/title of the page is missing? Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:40 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface Refined some more at http://weberp.gocom.ca including spacing out = the action links. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface By menu items I mean the links to action a specific option. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of your = comments may be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have some = time to look again. No question marks anymore and they were only = temporary before I was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think = the way you did with the one Help at the top is good as long as we = document clearly, possibly in the first online help screen, that the = help will change contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the = menu_group_items or do you mean the main_menu? The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I did = testing in several browsers on this site I created www.goldenwitch.com = they worked on all. Some people with various browsers could try going = to that site to see if the drop-down menus work perfectly. It is = minimal and very standard javascript. I agree with avoiding javascript, = java and any other language as much as possible but you can't make = drop-down menus unless you have code at the client side. I think ALL = languages besides PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in the config or = elsewhere. I still have to get up with the cvs thing. I have it installed = but haven't tried it out. When I do something it's all at once so one = day soon I'll be doing cvs and will send you. I saw the user and database in the newest demo. Something else = I noticed though was that the Help gave an error. Can't remember = exactly where or why right now though. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I guess this would be java? If it could be made to work in all forms of java then it would = be a useful addition - I have tried to avoid it so far and have no = knowlege personally. It is nice not to depend on java for anything. I = agree it would be good. I would like to clean the css if you send me the files.=20 I like the vertical oreintation of the menus - I think it = needs some spacing between the menu items - they all merge together. As previously mentioned I am not so keen on the preponderance = of question marks. I think this is probably superseeded following our = discussion on the help. I already added the user and database to the titles - in 2.9 Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:35 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For = those who would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. = Please make many, many comments good or bad. While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code and = cleaned it up, especially the css. There were several places that had = commands which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead = someone to think that what they were seeing should be different. This = is typical and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. = I think it is easier to read and understand now. Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or all of = it we can get it into the base product. Let me know. I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do = drop-down menus and allow a user option to specify whether they see the = interface displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down = menus it would allow everything to be accessible all the time with = little screen space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access = options become basically irrelevant with drop-down menus. Steve |
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From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-03 00:53:37
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Its still wrapping - its not a huge deal. Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface Ok, I think the 800x600 should not have Inquiries and Reports wrapping = underneath the image now which should look better. At the same time I = made all the headings look better in positioning. Please take another look here http://weberp.gocom.ca to confirm when = you get a chance. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface Looks better on a 1024x768 than on a 600x800 screen. The inquiries = and reports heading has to wrap onto two lines. The spaced links are less intimidating block of text too. Great! Notice that the heading/title of the page is missing? Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:40 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface Refined some more at http://weberp.gocom.ca including spacing out = the action links. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface By menu items I mean the links to action a specific option. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of your = comments may be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have some = time to look again. No question marks anymore and they were only = temporary before I was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think = the way you did with the one Help at the top is good as long as we = document clearly, possibly in the first online help screen, that the = help will change contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the = menu_group_items or do you mean the main_menu? The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I did = testing in several browsers on this site I created www.goldenwitch.com = they worked on all. Some people with various browsers could try going = to that site to see if the drop-down menus work perfectly. It is = minimal and very standard javascript. I agree with avoiding javascript, = java and any other language as much as possible but you can't make = drop-down menus unless you have code at the client side. I think ALL = languages besides PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in the config or = elsewhere. I still have to get up with the cvs thing. I have it = installed but haven't tried it out. When I do something it's all at = once so one day soon I'll be doing cvs and will send you. I saw the user and database in the newest demo. Something = else I noticed though was that the Help gave an error. Can't remember = exactly where or why right now though. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I guess this would be java? If it could be made to work in all forms of java then it = would be a useful addition - I have tried to avoid it so far and have no = knowlege personally. It is nice not to depend on java for anything. I = agree it would be good. I would like to clean the css if you send me the files.=20 I like the vertical oreintation of the menus - I think it = needs some spacing between the menu items - they all merge together. As previously mentioned I am not so keen on the = preponderance of question marks. I think this is probably superseeded = following our discussion on the help. I already added the user and database to the titles - in 2.9 Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:35 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For = those who would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. = Please make many, many comments good or bad. While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code and = cleaned it up, especially the css. There were several places that had = commands which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead = someone to think that what they were seeing should be different. This = is typical and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. = I think it is easier to read and understand now. Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or all = of it we can get it into the base product. Let me know. I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do = drop-down menus and allow a user option to specify whether they see the = interface displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down = menus it would allow everything to be accessible all the time with = little screen space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access = options become basically irrelevant with drop-down menus. Steve |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-03 03:59:50
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I can only make it not wrap by making the font smaller. However, before =
it was wrapping underneath the image which looked worse than now.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Its still wrapping - its not a huge deal.
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Ok, I think the 800x600 should not have Inquiries and Reports =
wrapping underneath the image now which should look better. At the same =
time I made all the headings look better in positioning.
Please take another look here http://weberp.gocom.ca to confirm when =
you get a chance.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Looks better on a 1024x768 than on a 600x800 screen. The inquiries =
and reports heading has to wrap onto two lines.
The spaced links are less intimidating block of text too.
Great!
Notice that the heading/title of the page is missing?
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Refined some more at http://weberp.gocom.ca including spacing =
out the action links.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
By menu items I mean the links to action a specific option.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of your =
comments may be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have some =
time to look again. No question marks anymore and they were only =
temporary before I was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think =
the way you did with the one Help at the top is good as long as we =
document clearly, possibly in the first online help screen, that the =
help will change contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the =
menu_group_items or do you mean the main_menu?
The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I =
did testing in several browsers on this site I created =
www.goldenwitch.com they worked on all. Some people with various =
browsers could try going to that site to see if the drop-down menus work =
perfectly. It is minimal and very standard javascript. I agree with =
avoiding javascript, java and any other language as much as possible but =
you can't make drop-down menus unless you have code at the client side. =
I think ALL languages besides PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in =
the config or elsewhere.
I still have to get up with the cvs thing. I have it =
installed but haven't tried it out. When I do something it's all at =
once so one day soon I'll be doing cvs and will send you.
I saw the user and database in the newest demo. Something =
else I noticed though was that the Help gave an error. Can't remember =
exactly where or why right now though.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
I guess this would be java?
If it could be made to work in all forms of java then it =
would be a useful addition - I have tried to avoid it so far and have no =
knowlege personally. It is nice not to depend on java for anything. I =
agree it would be good.
I would like to clean the css if you send me the files.=20
I like the vertical oreintation of the menus - I think it =
needs some spacing between the menu items - they all merge together.
As previously mentioned I am not so keen on the =
preponderance of question marks. I think this is probably superseeded =
following our discussion on the help.
I already added the user and database to the titles - in =
2.9
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:35 AM
Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. =
For those who would like to see what I've done go to =
http://weberp.gocom.ca. Please make many, many comments good or bad.
While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code =
and cleaned it up, especially the css. There were several places that =
had commands which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead =
someone to think that what they were seeing should be different. This =
is typical and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. =
I think it is easier to read and understand now.
Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or all =
of it we can get it into the base product. Let me know.
I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do =
drop-down menus and allow a user option to specify whether they see the =
interface displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down =
menus it would allow everything to be accessible all the time with =
little screen space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access =
options become basically irrelevant with drop-down menus.
Steve |
|
From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-03 04:29:33
|
Thought some more. I changed the font/bold. Does it look good now?
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Its still wrapping - its not a huge deal.
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Ok, I think the 800x600 should not have Inquiries and Reports =
wrapping underneath the image now which should look better. At the same =
time I made all the headings look better in positioning.
Please take another look here http://weberp.gocom.ca to confirm when =
you get a chance.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Looks better on a 1024x768 than on a 600x800 screen. The inquiries =
and reports heading has to wrap onto two lines.
The spaced links are less intimidating block of text too.
Great!
Notice that the heading/title of the page is missing?
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Refined some more at http://weberp.gocom.ca including spacing =
out the action links.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
By menu items I mean the links to action a specific option.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of your =
comments may be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have some =
time to look again. No question marks anymore and they were only =
temporary before I was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think =
the way you did with the one Help at the top is good as long as we =
document clearly, possibly in the first online help screen, that the =
help will change contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the =
menu_group_items or do you mean the main_menu?
The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I =
did testing in several browsers on this site I created =
www.goldenwitch.com they worked on all. Some people with various =
browsers could try going to that site to see if the drop-down menus work =
perfectly. It is minimal and very standard javascript. I agree with =
avoiding javascript, java and any other language as much as possible but =
you can't make drop-down menus unless you have code at the client side. =
I think ALL languages besides PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in =
the config or elsewhere.
I still have to get up with the cvs thing. I have it =
installed but haven't tried it out. When I do something it's all at =
once so one day soon I'll be doing cvs and will send you.
I saw the user and database in the newest demo. Something =
else I noticed though was that the Help gave an error. Can't remember =
exactly where or why right now though.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
I guess this would be java?
If it could be made to work in all forms of java then it =
would be a useful addition - I have tried to avoid it so far and have no =
knowlege personally. It is nice not to depend on java for anything. I =
agree it would be good.
I would like to clean the css if you send me the files.=20
I like the vertical oreintation of the menus - I think it =
needs some spacing between the menu items - they all merge together.
As previously mentioned I am not so keen on the =
preponderance of question marks. I think this is probably superseeded =
following our discussion on the help.
I already added the user and database to the titles - in =
2.9
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:35 AM
Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. =
For those who would like to see what I've done go to =
http://weberp.gocom.ca. Please make many, many comments good or bad.
While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code =
and cleaned it up, especially the css. There were several places that =
had commands which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead =
someone to think that what they were seeing should be different. This =
is typical and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. =
I think it is easier to read and understand now.
Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or all =
of it we can get it into the base product. Let me know.
I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do =
drop-down menus and allow a user option to specify whether they see the =
interface displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down =
menus it would allow everything to be accessible all the time with =
little screen space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access =
options become basically irrelevant with drop-down menus.
Steve |
|
From: Phil D. <ph...@du...> - 2004-08-03 04:33:41
|
Great works in ie and Firefox @600x800
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Thought some more. I changed the font/bold. Does it look good now?
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Its still wrapping - its not a huge deal.
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Ok, I think the 800x600 should not have Inquiries and Reports =
wrapping underneath the image now which should look better. At the same =
time I made all the headings look better in positioning.
Please take another look here http://weberp.gocom.ca to confirm =
when you get a chance.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Looks better on a 1024x768 than on a 600x800 screen. The =
inquiries and reports heading has to wrap onto two lines.
The spaced links are less intimidating block of text too.
Great!
Notice that the heading/title of the page is missing?
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Refined some more at http://weberp.gocom.ca including spacing =
out the action links.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
By menu items I mean the links to action a specific option.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of =
your comments may be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have =
some time to look again. No question marks anymore and they were only =
temporary before I was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think =
the way you did with the one Help at the top is good as long as we =
document clearly, possibly in the first online help screen, that the =
help will change contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the =
menu_group_items or do you mean the main_menu?
The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I =
did testing in several browsers on this site I created =
www.goldenwitch.com they worked on all. Some people with various =
browsers could try going to that site to see if the drop-down menus work =
perfectly. It is minimal and very standard javascript. I agree with =
avoiding javascript, java and any other language as much as possible but =
you can't make drop-down menus unless you have code at the client side. =
I think ALL languages besides PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in =
the config or elsewhere.
I still have to get up with the cvs thing. I have it =
installed but haven't tried it out. When I do something it's all at =
once so one day soon I'll be doing cvs and will send you.
I saw the user and database in the newest demo. Something =
else I noticed though was that the Help gave an error. Can't remember =
exactly where or why right now though.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
I guess this would be java?
If it could be made to work in all forms of java then it =
would be a useful addition - I have tried to avoid it so far and have no =
knowlege personally. It is nice not to depend on java for anything. I =
agree it would be good.
I would like to clean the css if you send me the files.=20
I like the vertical oreintation of the menus - I think =
it needs some spacing between the menu items - they all merge together.
As previously mentioned I am not so keen on the =
preponderance of question marks. I think this is probably superseeded =
following our discussion on the help.
I already added the user and database to the titles - in =
2.9
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:35 AM
Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. =
For those who would like to see what I've done go to =
http://weberp.gocom.ca. Please make many, many comments good or bad.
While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code =
and cleaned it up, especially the css. There were several places that =
had commands which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead =
someone to think that what they were seeing should be different. This =
is typical and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. =
I think it is easier to read and understand now.
Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or =
all of it we can get it into the base product. Let me know.
I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do =
drop-down menus and allow a user option to specify whether they see the =
interface displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down =
menus it would allow everything to be accessible all the time with =
little screen space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access =
options become basically irrelevant with drop-down menus.
Steve |
|
From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-02 22:40:44
|
Some stuff such as heading/title is missing because I don't have 2.9 in =
my copy yet. I will be incorporating those changes shortly.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Looks better on a 1024x768 than on a 600x800 screen. The inquiries and =
reports heading has to wrap onto two lines.
The spaced links are less intimidating block of text too.
Great!
Notice that the heading/title of the page is missing?
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Refined some more at http://weberp.gocom.ca including spacing out =
the action links.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
By menu items I mean the links to action a specific option.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of your =
comments may be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have some =
time to look again. No question marks anymore and they were only =
temporary before I was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think =
the way you did with the one Help at the top is good as long as we =
document clearly, possibly in the first online help screen, that the =
help will change contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the =
menu_group_items or do you mean the main_menu?
The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I did =
testing in several browsers on this site I created www.goldenwitch.com =
they worked on all. Some people with various browsers could try going =
to that site to see if the drop-down menus work perfectly. It is =
minimal and very standard javascript. I agree with avoiding javascript, =
java and any other language as much as possible but you can't make =
drop-down menus unless you have code at the client side. I think ALL =
languages besides PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in the config or =
elsewhere.
I still have to get up with the cvs thing. I have it installed =
but haven't tried it out. When I do something it's all at once so one =
day soon I'll be doing cvs and will send you.
I saw the user and database in the newest demo. Something else =
I noticed though was that the Help gave an error. Can't remember =
exactly where or why right now though.
Steve
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Daintrees=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
I guess this would be java?
If it could be made to work in all forms of java then it would =
be a useful addition - I have tried to avoid it so far and have no =
knowlege personally. It is nice not to depend on java for anything. I =
agree it would be good.
I would like to clean the css if you send me the files.=20
I like the vertical oreintation of the menus - I think it =
needs some spacing between the menu items - they all merge together.
As previously mentioned I am not so keen on the preponderance =
of question marks. I think this is probably superseeded following our =
discussion on the help.
I already added the user and database to the titles - in 2.9
Phil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: skaill=20
To: web...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:35 AM
Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Interface
I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For =
those who would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. =
Please make many, many comments good or bad.
While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code and =
cleaned it up, especially the css. There were several places that had =
commands which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead =
someone to think that what they were seeing should be different. This =
is typical and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. =
I think it is easier to read and understand now.
Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or all of =
it we can get it into the base product. Let me know.
I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do =
drop-down menus and allow a user option to specify whether they see the =
interface displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down =
menus it would allow everything to be accessible all the time with =
little screen space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access =
options become basically irrelevant with drop-down menus.
Steve |
|
From: Phil D. <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-02 07:34:07
|
On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 00:34, skaill wrote: > Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of your comments > may be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have some time to > look again. No question marks anymore and they were only temporary > before I was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think the way > you did with the one Help at the top is good as long as we document > clearly, possibly in the first online help screen, that the help will > change contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the > menu_group_items or do you mean the main_menu? Looked again - yes it looks really good now! Keen to incorporate this. I notice you havent got the Help link yet. Interested to find out the difficulty you had with the help. I think the main difficulty will be in populating the help table with useful data. It would be nice if the text in the Help table was html - I put some stuff in for the main menu just to test it. > > The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I did testing > in several browsers on this site I created www.goldenwitch.com they > worked on all. Some people with various browsers could try going to > that site to see if the drop-down menus work perfectly. It is minimal > and very standard javascript. I agree with avoiding javascript, java > and any other language as much as possible but you can't make > drop-down menus unless you have code at the client side. I think ALL > languages besides PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in the config > or elsewhere. > Firefox works fine with the drop down menus on that site but Konqueror cant actually get to the menu - eg the "Fine Tackle" brings down the choices for Rods, Reels etc but I cant get to the links without moving over "Rod Making" - so the options come up with Tools etc and I cant activate any of the links for Fine Tackle. I think it would be good to have some interactivity like this on the main menu in particular but we need a back stop option that always works. Phil |
|
From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-02 17:44:56
|
Working the way I am for right now is due to my lack of knowledge of cvs from the start. What I will do soon is get up to speed with cvs and then compare your 2.8 to my 2.8 modified with my compare tools. I will then move all of my changes into a newly checked out cvs 2.9. Afterward I can send you my modified 2.9, the 2.9 diff or whatever I'm supposed to do. I tried the demo help again and cannot find the issue anywhere. I'm confused about whether you agreed that it would be good to cut various sections of the manual and put them into the online help. It seemed like the best and quickest way to get some help in there everywhere. If so, it's what I plan on doing soon on my copy. Could it be a setting in Konqueror that causes the drop-down menu not to work? Can you take a look at http://www.infocentral.org/demo/Default.php and let me know if the menus there work with those browsers? The javascript code for them is somewhat different and possibly better. For sure normal menus will be default. User must switch their setting to activate drop-down menus Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Daintree" <p.d...@pa...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface > On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 00:34, skaill wrote: > > Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of your comments > > may be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have some time to > > look again. No question marks anymore and they were only temporary > > before I was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think the way > > you did with the one Help at the top is good as long as we document > > clearly, possibly in the first online help screen, that the help will > > change contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the > > menu_group_items or do you mean the main_menu? > > Looked again - yes it looks really good now! Keen to incorporate this. I > notice you havent got the Help link yet. Interested to find out the > difficulty you had with the help. I think the main difficulty will be in > populating the help table with useful data. It would be nice if the text > in the Help table was html - I put some stuff in for the main menu just > to test it. > > > > > The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I did testing > > in several browsers on this site I created www.goldenwitch.com they > > worked on all. Some people with various browsers could try going to > > that site to see if the drop-down menus work perfectly. It is minimal > > and very standard javascript. I agree with avoiding javascript, java > > and any other language as much as possible but you can't make > > drop-down menus unless you have code at the client side. I think ALL > > languages besides PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in the config > > or elsewhere. > > > > Firefox works fine with the drop down menus on that site but Konqueror > cant actually get to the menu - eg the "Fine Tackle" brings down the > choices for Rods, Reels etc but I cant get to the links without moving > over "Rod Making" - so the options come up with Tools etc and I cant > activate any of the links for Fine Tackle. > > I think it would be good to have some interactivity like this on the > main menu in particular but we need a back stop option that always > works. > > Phil > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on > Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, > one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology > Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-02 01:03:46
|
I looked for the first time on the weekend when you gave us the URL. Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface Have you looked in the past day or two, Phil? Some of your comments = may be before I did a bunch of work. Hopefully you have some time to = look again. No question marks anymore and they were only temporary = before I was going to create a help graphic. Anyway, I think the way = you did with the one Help at the top is good as long as we document = clearly, possibly in the first online help screen, that the help will = change contextually. Possibly by the menu items you mean the = menu_group_items or do you mean the main_menu? The menus would be javascript. However, I believe when I did testing = in several browsers on this site I created www.goldenwitch.com they = worked on all. Some people with various browsers could try going to = that site to see if the drop-down menus work perfectly. It is minimal = and very standard javascript. I agree with avoiding javascript, java = and any other language as much as possible but you can't make drop-down = menus unless you have code at the client side. I think ALL languages = besides PHP, HTML and CSS should be optional in the config or elsewhere. I still have to get up with the cvs thing. I have it installed but = haven't tried it out. When I do something it's all at once so one day = soon I'll be doing cvs and will send you. I saw the user and database in the newest demo. Something else I = noticed though was that the Help gave an error. Can't remember exactly = where or why right now though. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I guess this would be java? If it could be made to work in all forms of java then it would be a = useful addition - I have tried to avoid it so far and have no knowlege = personally. It is nice not to depend on java for anything. I agree it = would be good. I would like to clean the css if you send me the files.=20 I like the vertical oreintation of the menus - I think it needs some = spacing between the menu items - they all merge together. As previously mentioned I am not so keen on the preponderance of = question marks. I think this is probably superseeded following our = discussion on the help. I already added the user and database to the titles - in 2.9 Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:35 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Interface I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For those = who would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. = Please make many, many comments good or bad. While I've been doing this I fixed some incorrect code and cleaned = it up, especially the css. There were several places that had commands = which weren't actually being used and in fact would lead someone to = think that what they were seeing should be different. This is typical = and I'm no exception but I took the time to do some cleanup. I think it = is easier to read and understand now. Phil, if you like parts of this refined interface or all of it we = can get it into the base product. Let me know. I'm seriously thinking about adding code that will do drop-down = menus and allow a user option to specify whether they see the interface = displayed now or they see drop-down menus. With the drop-down menus it = would allow everything to be accessible all the time with little screen = space taken up. It also looks pro. Plus the fast access options become = basically irrelevant with drop-down menus. Steve |
|
From: Phil D. <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-02 07:49:39
|
On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 15:35, skaill wrote: > I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For those who > would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. Please > make many, many comments good or bad. > Steve, I didn't understand what "main" was for - looks like we could lose this happily? Having setup on the main menu by default could be inviting trouble? I prefer setup options out of the way and not in your face as it were - so folks arent tempted to have a look! This would leave more room for longer more descriptive links that dont straddle several lines. It would be nice to space the links somehow. Another 2c Phil |
|
From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-02 18:34:42
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There's technically a quick menu and a main menu. In my view though I don't think of the quick menu as such. It is part of the header and I view it more as akin to a toolbar of options. In fact I have some further ideas about that toolbar concept but not worth discussing until I think and play around some more. So, viewing the fast access/quick menu options as a sort of toolbar then there is one menu. Besides, the quick menu appears all the time so the Menu option can only mean the "main" menu. To me, the various setup options within webERP fall into two categories: support tables and setup/admin. For the support tables I'm thinking they belong more appropriately in their respective section. My take on where setup options should be located runs parallel to the following ideas. First, I think that knowing there is Sales Type Maintenance leads to better understanding by the users. They would know that if they don't see a Sales Type that should be there then it can be added to Sales Types by someone with access. Yes, maybe they should not have access to it and those options inaccessible to them should be readily recognizable as off limits. Usually this means graying them out, etc. Notice if you bring up Word and click the drop-down menus there are options available and other options inaccessible. It is based on context with the grayed options being inaccessible. The context, in the setup case, is the user. The second idea is about having things where they have the most relevance. e.g. Sales setup with Sales options. Also, where they would best be accessed by someone other than the administrator so that strictly administration options are within the administrator area. These would be options that no one else should see and need not understand exist such as backup/restore, user maintenance, etc. Possibly some of the config options should be in the admin section as well but that's another topic! There still may be good points about keeping the setup all in the one area, however, these are my viewpoints about it so far. It's something to think about. I do know that at least some mid-sized erp systems do organize the setup options within the areas as I have done. Possibly others have them in a separate area... Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Daintree" <p.d...@pa...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface > On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 15:35, skaill wrote: > > I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For those who > > would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. Please > > make many, many comments good or bad. > > > Steve, > > I didn't understand what "main" was for - looks like we could lose this > happily? > > Having setup on the main menu by default could be inviting trouble? I > prefer setup options out of the way and not in your face as it were - so > folks arent tempted to have a look! This would leave more room for > longer more descriptive links that dont straddle several lines. It would > be nice to space the links somehow. > > Another 2c > > Phil > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on > Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, > one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology > Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-02 18:51:11
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At first I don't think I understood your point about Setup always appearing. Possibly setup could go above in the quick menu. Logout could go back up there too. I moved them down as I pondered whether the quick access was a good thing. You easily convinced me that it was, however, I'm still pondering it being more of a toolbar thing. One thing for sure, if Setup needs to sometimes be displayed on the Menu for admins then it may as well be displayed all the time because there must always be room set aside for it. Even though it appears all the time it can still be distinguished as being inaccessible by graying out, etc. I actually have Admin (setup renamed on mine) grayed right now when demo logs in but not when Admin logs in. I'm also not sure that Main need to be an option at all. The fact that the system comes up in Main is a good thing I believe. The reason is that it's an introduction as well as a possible "advertising" area. With it, the user does not feel that they have been blasted into the middle of the system right away. However, it's not really necessary for the user to be able to re-access Main again within the session. Possibly, therefore, the Main menu option could be removed. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Daintree" <p.d...@pa...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Interface > On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 15:35, skaill wrote: > > I've been working with the interface quite a bit now. For those who > > would like to see what I've done go to http://weberp.gocom.ca. Please > > make many, many comments good or bad. > > > Steve, > > I didn't understand what "main" was for - looks like we could lose this > happily? > > Having setup on the main menu by default could be inviting trouble? I > prefer setup options out of the way and not in your face as it were - so > folks arent tempted to have a look! This would leave more room for > longer more descriptive links that dont straddle several lines. It would > be nice to space the links somehow. > > Another 2c > > Phil > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on > Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, > one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology > Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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