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From: Phil D. <ph...@du...> - 2004-07-08 01:27:09
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Steve, On Thursday 08 July 2004 13:06, you wrote: > > I've read, downloaded and installed WinCVS. Now I just have to figure out > how to set it up for SourceForge and how to use it. Don't think the use > will be too difficult if it's anything like SourceSafe. > > I believe what I do is "check out" (pull down) the cvs and run a diff from > within WinCVS that I give to you. > Yes that sounds right - I'm not sure how it works on windows - think someone reported an issue with downloading the images off sourceforge there is some special setting for WinCVS? > I use an excellent file comparer called Beyond Compare that rivals Visual > SlickEdit so I think the diff will be something like that. I hear there's > an Open Source file comparer I might want to check out too. I have no idea about the pros and cons of all the various tools I just use KATE (K Advanced Text Editor) which has good Syntax highlighting (I use ConText in windows at work) and standard gnu diff and cvs. Phil |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-07-08 02:02:33
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I like the HTML kit for coding. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Daintree" <ph...@du...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 9:30 PM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > Steve, > > On Thursday 08 July 2004 13:06, you wrote: > > > > I've read, downloaded and installed WinCVS. Now I just have to figure out > > how to set it up for SourceForge and how to use it. Don't think the use > > will be too difficult if it's anything like SourceSafe. > > > > I believe what I do is "check out" (pull down) the cvs and run a diff from > > within WinCVS that I give to you. > > > Yes that sounds right - I'm not sure how it works on windows - think someone > reported an issue with downloading the images off sourceforge there is some > special setting for WinCVS? > > > I use an excellent file comparer called Beyond Compare that rivals Visual > > SlickEdit so I think the diff will be something like that. I hear there's > > an Open Source file comparer I might want to check out too. > > I have no idea about the pros and cons of all the various tools I just use > KATE (K Advanced Text Editor) which has good Syntax highlighting (I use > ConText in windows at work) and standard gnu diff and cvs. > > Phil > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: Stins, D. <DR...@Zi...> - 2004-07-08 10:05:55
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Steve, Images and other binaries like .doc and .... do need to be inserted in CVS as binaries (special option), otherwise they will contain errors when they are checked out. Only in special conditions (Phil seems to hava no problems with it) there no errors. I guess that the condition is that when it is inserted and checked out at the same platform, then have a chance that this is no issue. Allthough I already asked Phil to insert binaries as binaries to CVS, I guess he had other priorities and it still has to be done. With best regards, Dick Sitns ----- Original Message ----- From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > I like the HTML kit for coding. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Daintree" <ph...@du...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 9:30 PM > Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > > > > Steve, > > > > On Thursday 08 July 2004 13:06, you wrote: > > > > > > I've read, downloaded and installed WinCVS. Now I just have to figure > out > > > how to set it up for SourceForge and how to use it. Don't think the use > > > will be too difficult if it's anything like SourceSafe. > > > > > > I believe what I do is "check out" (pull down) the cvs and run a diff > from > > > within WinCVS that I give to you. > > > > > Yes that sounds right - I'm not sure how it works on windows - think > someone > > reported an issue with downloading the images off sourceforge there is > some > > special setting for WinCVS? > > > > > I use an excellent file comparer called Beyond Compare that rivals > Visual > > > SlickEdit so I think the diff will be something like that. I hear > there's > > > an Open Source file comparer I might want to check out too. > > > > I have no idea about the pros and cons of all the various tools I just use > > KATE (K Advanced Text Editor) which has good Syntax highlighting (I use > > ConText in windows at work) and standard gnu diff and cvs. > > > > Phil > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > Web...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: Phil D. <ph...@du...> - 2004-07-08 10:35:55
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Following a discussion with Steve yesterday I added the following ... header.inc now shows the database name and the Real User Name on each page header.inc also shows another link to Help which calls a new script ... called Help.php this relies on two new tables Scripts and Help (....predictably ;-) The Scripts table lists all scripts with a basic description of their function (no includes in here only first line scripts) together with a PageID and the filename. The Help.php looks up the filename to get the overview of the page and then retrieves the help records based on the PageID. Users can add, edit or delete help at will. Just a little shy on data for the Help table. Phil |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-07-08 11:21:29
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Beauty! We could incorporate a facility I have already done for users to update help. It's basic. A screen with a huge text box and Save/Cancel kind of thing. I'll have to figure out the css to get it looking like the rest of the system unless someone else with some time and experience with webERP could do that part. Does this sound good? Once that's in place it won't be too difficult to copy and paste chunks from the manual(s) into the various script help areas/records to get started. Just a thought at this point. It would be nice if eventually we could have a process that knew how to go through an updated manual, clip the chunks and update the help records. Possibly it could work by table of contents titles or some kind of indicator. Kind of like anchors. This is not a first priority but would be nice. This would only work if user added help was kept separate from default help though. We could give user/admin access to modify each of 2 records for each script that get concatenated when displayed with default help then user help. If they modify default help then they just don't ever use the function to update help automatically. Or we could explain how they need to modify/replace the manual then run automatic update. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Daintree" <ph...@du...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:39 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > Following a discussion with Steve yesterday I added the following ... > > header.inc now shows the database name and the Real User Name on each page > > header.inc also shows another link to Help which calls a new script ... called > Help.php this relies on two new tables Scripts and Help (....predictably ;-) > The Scripts table lists all scripts with a basic description of their function > (no includes in here only first line scripts) together with a PageID and the > filename. The Help.php looks up the filename to get the overview of the page > and then retrieves the help records based on the PageID. > > Users can add, edit or delete help at will. > > Just a little shy on data for the Help table. > > Phil > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-07-08 21:32:14
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> Beauty! We could incorporate a facility I have already done for users to > update help. It's basic. A screen with a huge text box and Save/Cancel > kind of thing. I'll have to figure out the css to get it looking like the > rest of the system unless someone else with some time and experience with > webERP could do that part. Does this sound good? > Yep, thats what I did. This new script Help.php has a textarea for entry of new help records. Just nothing in the help table yet. > Once that's in place it won't be too difficult to copy and paste chunks from > the manual(s) into the various script help areas/records to get started. > Now thats an area I'd really appreciate some help with. Followed by a dump of the data to an sql script that is emailed to me. > Just a thought at this point. It would be nice if eventually we could have > a process that knew how to go through an updated manual, clip the chunks and > update the help records. Possibly it could work by table of contents titles > or some kind of indicator. Kind of like anchors. This is not a first > priority but would be nice. This would only work if user added help was > kept separate from default help though. We could give user/admin access to > modify each of 2 records for each script that get concatenated when > displayed with default help then user help. If they modify default help > then they just don't ever use the function to update help automatically. Or > we could explain how they need to modify/replace the manual then run > automatic update. the manual though is kind of more a how it works manual than a step by step this is how you do it tutorial. I guess I am seeing a difference between the online help and the manual in this sense. Although heck there's no reason why the online help can't include the higher level descriptions of what is going on too. I personally need to understand the workings of things to be able to operate them effectively. I guess this is why the manual is the way it is. Phil |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-07-08 21:54:47
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Yes, I understand what you're saying. The manual is more technical than user friendly. At this point I am not familiar enough with the use of the system to do the online help in a user way. I would actually suggest eventually simple explanation, many times with step by step and possible example data. Expanding the thought below, maybe we could have another record for each page that is technical. I know some of the leading erp softwares do provide both online. I can get the chunks from the manual in if wanted but would appreciate if you could look to make sure I got all and in the right place. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > Beauty! We could incorporate a facility I have already done for users to > > update help. It's basic. A screen with a huge text box and Save/Cancel > > kind of thing. I'll have to figure out the css to get it looking like the > > rest of the system unless someone else with some time and experience with > > webERP could do that part. Does this sound good? > > > Yep, thats what I did. This new script Help.php has a textarea for entry of > new help records. > Just nothing in the help table yet. > > > Once that's in place it won't be too difficult to copy and paste chunks > from > > the manual(s) into the various script help areas/records to get started. > > > > Now thats an area I'd really appreciate some help with. Followed by a dump > of the data to an sql script that is emailed to me. > > > Just a thought at this point. It would be nice if eventually we could > have > > a process that knew how to go through an updated manual, clip the chunks > and > > update the help records. Possibly it could work by table of contents > titles > > or some kind of indicator. Kind of like anchors. This is not a first > > priority but would be nice. This would only work if user added help was > > kept separate from default help though. We could give user/admin access > to > > modify each of 2 records for each script that get concatenated when > > displayed with default help then user help. If they modify default help > > then they just don't ever use the function to update help automatically. > Or > > we could explain how they need to modify/replace the manual then run > > automatic update. > > the manual though is kind of more a how it works manual than a step by step > this is how you do it tutorial. I guess I am seeing a difference between the > online help and the manual in this sense. Although heck there's no reason > why the online help can't include the higher level descriptions of what is > going on too. I personally need to understand the workings of things to be > able to operate them effectively. I guess this is why the manual is the way > it is. > > Phil > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-07-09 00:35:23
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Great, happy to review. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > Yes, I understand what you're saying. The manual is more technical than > user friendly. At this point I am not familiar enough with the use of the > system to do the online help in a user way. I would actually suggest > eventually simple explanation, many times with step by step and possible > example data. > > Expanding the thought below, maybe we could have another record for each > page that is technical. I know some of the leading erp softwares do provide > both online. > > I can get the chunks from the manual in if wanted but would appreciate if > you could look to make sure I got all and in the right place. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 5:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > > > > Beauty! We could incorporate a facility I have already done for users > to > > > update help. It's basic. A screen with a huge text box and Save/Cancel > > > kind of thing. I'll have to figure out the css to get it looking like > the > > > rest of the system unless someone else with some time and experience > with > > > webERP could do that part. Does this sound good? > > > > > Yep, thats what I did. This new script Help.php has a textarea for entry > of > > new help records. > > Just nothing in the help table yet. > > > > > Once that's in place it won't be too difficult to copy and paste chunks > > from > > > the manual(s) into the various script help areas/records to get started. > > > > > > > Now thats an area I'd really appreciate some help with. Followed by a dump > > of the data to an sql script that is emailed to me. > > > > > Just a thought at this point. It would be nice if eventually we could > > have > > > a process that knew how to go through an updated manual, clip the chunks > > and > > > update the help records. Possibly it could work by table of contents > > titles > > > or some kind of indicator. Kind of like anchors. This is not a first > > > priority but would be nice. This would only work if user added help was > > > kept separate from default help though. We could give user/admin access > > to > > > modify each of 2 records for each script that get concatenated when > > > displayed with default help then user help. If they modify default help > > > then they just don't ever use the function to update help automatically. > > Or > > > we could explain how they need to modify/replace the manual then run > > > automatic update. > > > > the manual though is kind of more a how it works manual than a step by > step > > this is how you do it tutorial. I guess I am seeing a difference between > the > > online help and the manual in this sense. Although heck there's no reason > > why the online help can't include the higher level descriptions of what is > > going on too. I personally need to understand the workings of things to be > > able to operate them effectively. I guess this is why the manual is the > way > > it is. > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > Web...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-07-09 01:00:13
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What do you think about splitting technical and user into two separate records, Phil? It will come in much handier in the future I think. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > Great, happy to review. > > Phil > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > > > Yes, I understand what you're saying. The manual is more technical than > > user friendly. At this point I am not familiar enough with the use of the > > system to do the online help in a user way. I would actually suggest > > eventually simple explanation, many times with step by step and possible > > example data. > > > > Expanding the thought below, maybe we could have another record for each > > page that is technical. I know some of the leading erp softwares do > provide > > both online. > > > > I can get the chunks from the manual in if wanted but would appreciate if > > you could look to make sure I got all and in the right place. > > > > Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...> > > To: <web...@li...> > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 5:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > > > > > > > Beauty! We could incorporate a facility I have already done for users > > to > > > > update help. It's basic. A screen with a huge text box and > Save/Cancel > > > > kind of thing. I'll have to figure out the css to get it looking like > > the > > > > rest of the system unless someone else with some time and experience > > with > > > > webERP could do that part. Does this sound good? > > > > > > > Yep, thats what I did. This new script Help.php has a textarea for entry > > of > > > new help records. > > > Just nothing in the help table yet. > > > > > > > Once that's in place it won't be too difficult to copy and paste > chunks > > > from > > > > the manual(s) into the various script help areas/records to get > started. > > > > > > > > > > Now thats an area I'd really appreciate some help with. Followed by a > dump > > > of the data to an sql script that is emailed to me. > > > > > > > Just a thought at this point. It would be nice if eventually we could > > > have > > > > a process that knew how to go through an updated manual, clip the > chunks > > > and > > > > update the help records. Possibly it could work by table of contents > > > titles > > > > or some kind of indicator. Kind of like anchors. This is not a first > > > > priority but would be nice. This would only work if user added help > was > > > > kept separate from default help though. We could give user/admin > access > > > to > > > > modify each of 2 records for each script that get concatenated when > > > > displayed with default help then user help. If they modify default > help > > > > then they just don't ever use the function to update help > automatically. > > > Or > > > > we could explain how they need to modify/replace the manual then run > > > > automatic update. > > > > > > the manual though is kind of more a how it works manual than a step by > > step > > > this is how you do it tutorial. I guess I am seeing a difference between > > the > > > online help and the manual in this sense. Although heck there's no > reason > > > why the online help can't include the higher level descriptions of what > is > > > going on too. I personally need to understand the workings of things to > be > > > able to operate them effectively. I guess this is why the manual is the > > way > > > it is. > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > Web...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > Web...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: Phil D. <ph...@du...> - 2004-07-09 04:34:38
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Perhaps a flag in the table - for technical or user -and an option - defaulting to user to show technical help or user help? We could do this retrospectively when we start getting some help records Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > What do you think about splitting technical and user into two separate > records, Phil? It will come in much handier in the future I think. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > > > Great, happy to review. > > > > Phil > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> > > To: <web...@li...> > > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 9:54 AM > > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > > > > > > Yes, I understand what you're saying. The manual is more technical than > > > user friendly. At this point I am not familiar enough with the use of > the > > > system to do the online help in a user way. I would actually suggest > > > eventually simple explanation, many times with step by step and possible > > > example data. > > > > > > Expanding the thought below, maybe we could have another record for each > > > page that is technical. I know some of the leading erp softwares do > > provide > > > both online. > > > > > > I can get the chunks from the manual in if wanted but would appreciate > if > > > you could look to make sure I got all and in the right place. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...> > > > To: <web...@li...> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 5:33 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > > > > > > > > > > Beauty! We could incorporate a facility I have already done for > users > > > to > > > > > update help. It's basic. A screen with a huge text box and > > Save/Cancel > > > > > kind of thing. I'll have to figure out the css to get it looking > like > > > the > > > > > rest of the system unless someone else with some time and experience > > > with > > > > > webERP could do that part. Does this sound good? > > > > > > > > > Yep, thats what I did. This new script Help.php has a textarea for > entry > > > of > > > > new help records. > > > > Just nothing in the help table yet. > > > > > > > > > Once that's in place it won't be too difficult to copy and paste > > chunks > > > > from > > > > > the manual(s) into the various script help areas/records to get > > started. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now thats an area I'd really appreciate some help with. Followed by a > > dump > > > > of the data to an sql script that is emailed to me. > > > > > > > > > Just a thought at this point. It would be nice if eventually we > could > > > > have > > > > > a process that knew how to go through an updated manual, clip the > > chunks > > > > and > > > > > update the help records. Possibly it could work by table of > contents > > > > titles > > > > > or some kind of indicator. Kind of like anchors. This is not a > first > > > > > priority but would be nice. This would only work if user added help > > was > > > > > kept separate from default help though. We could give user/admin > > access > > > > to > > > > > modify each of 2 records for each script that get concatenated when > > > > > displayed with default help then user help. If they modify default > > help > > > > > then they just don't ever use the function to update help > > automatically. > > > > Or > > > > > we could explain how they need to modify/replace the manual then run > > > > > automatic update. > > > > > > > > the manual though is kind of more a how it works manual than a step by > > > step > > > > this is how you do it tutorial. I guess I am seeing a difference > between > > > the > > > > online help and the manual in this sense. Although heck there's no > > reason > > > > why the online help can't include the higher level descriptions of > what > > is > > > > going on too. I personally need to understand the workings of things > to > > be > > > > able to operate them effectively. I guess this is why the manual is > the > > > way > > > > it is. > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > > Web...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > Web...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > Web...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-07-09 11:16:07
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Type as opposed to flag for custom, user and technical. Rest of functionality can come later. I was thinking for now could just append user, custom then technical...if each exists. Custom lets them add without changing base. Also can have admin access to user but payroll clerk access for custom. I mean you could have even by user id so each user can add their own notes that make sense to them. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Daintree" <ph...@du...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 12:42 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Technical / User Help > Perhaps a flag in the table - for technical or user -and an option - > defaulting to user to show technical help or user help? We could do this > retrospectively when we start getting some help records > > Phil > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > > > What do you think about splitting technical and user into two separate > > records, Phil? It will come in much handier in the future I think. > > > > Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...> > > To: <web...@li...> > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:36 PM > > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > > > > > > Great, happy to review. > > > > > > Phil > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> > > > To: <web...@li...> > > > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 9:54 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I understand what you're saying. The manual is more technical > than > > > > user friendly. At this point I am not familiar enough with the use of > > the > > > > system to do the online help in a user way. I would actually suggest > > > > eventually simple explanation, many times with step by step and > possible > > > > example data. > > > > > > > > Expanding the thought below, maybe we could have another record for > each > > > > page that is technical. I know some of the leading erp softwares do > > > provide > > > > both online. > > > > > > > > I can get the chunks from the manual in if wanted but would appreciate > > if > > > > you could look to make sure I got all and in the right place. > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...> > > > > To: <web...@li...> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 5:33 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beauty! We could incorporate a facility I have already done for > > users > > > > to > > > > > > update help. It's basic. A screen with a huge text box and > > > Save/Cancel > > > > > > kind of thing. I'll have to figure out the css to get it looking > > like > > > > the > > > > > > rest of the system unless someone else with some time and > experience > > > > with > > > > > > webERP could do that part. Does this sound good? > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, thats what I did. This new script Help.php has a textarea for > > entry > > > > of > > > > > new help records. > > > > > Just nothing in the help table yet. > > > > > > > > > > > Once that's in place it won't be too difficult to copy and paste > > > chunks > > > > > from > > > > > > the manual(s) into the various script help areas/records to get > > > started. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now thats an area I'd really appreciate some help with. Followed by > a > > > dump > > > > > of the data to an sql script that is emailed to me. > > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought at this point. It would be nice if eventually we > > could > > > > > have > > > > > > a process that knew how to go through an updated manual, clip the > > > chunks > > > > > and > > > > > > update the help records. Possibly it could work by table of > > contents > > > > > titles > > > > > > or some kind of indicator. Kind of like anchors. This is not a > > first > > > > > > priority but would be nice. This would only work if user added > help > > > was > > > > > > kept separate from default help though. We could give user/admin > > > access > > > > > to > > > > > > modify each of 2 records for each script that get concatenated > when > > > > > > displayed with default help then user help. If they modify > default > > > help > > > > > > then they just don't ever use the function to update help > > > automatically. > > > > > Or > > > > > > we could explain how they need to modify/replace the manual then > run > > > > > > automatic update. > > > > > > > > > > the manual though is kind of more a how it works manual than a step > by > > > > step > > > > > this is how you do it tutorial. I guess I am seeing a difference > > between > > > > the > > > > > online help and the manual in this sense. Although heck there's no > > > reason > > > > > why the online help can't include the higher level descriptions of > > what > > > is > > > > > going on too. I personally need to understand the workings of things > > to > > > be > > > > > able to operate them effectively. I guess this is why the manual is > > the > > > > way > > > > > it is. > > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > > > Web...@li... > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > > Web...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > Web...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > Web...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-07-08 22:19:13
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One other thing about this help system. Since it is user/admin input into records and regenerated into an html page, the code needs to be cautious about what html and php commands are used, if any. Some are handy, and many forum packages allow such as phpbb including commands like bold, highlight, paragraph, list, etc. Of course, for paragraph there is a php command that can recognize them and format appropriately. If only admin has access then not too dangerous but still probably good to keep people from shooting themselves in the foot! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > Beauty! We could incorporate a facility I have already done for users to > > update help. It's basic. A screen with a huge text box and Save/Cancel > > kind of thing. I'll have to figure out the css to get it looking like the > > rest of the system unless someone else with some time and experience with > > webERP could do that part. Does this sound good? > > > Yep, thats what I did. This new script Help.php has a textarea for entry of > new help records. > Just nothing in the help table yet. > > > Once that's in place it won't be too difficult to copy and paste chunks > from > > the manual(s) into the various script help areas/records to get started. > > > > Now thats an area I'd really appreciate some help with. Followed by a dump > of the data to an sql script that is emailed to me. > > > Just a thought at this point. It would be nice if eventually we could > have > > a process that knew how to go through an updated manual, clip the chunks > and > > update the help records. Possibly it could work by table of contents > titles > > or some kind of indicator. Kind of like anchors. This is not a first > > priority but would be nice. This would only work if user added help was > > kept separate from default help though. We could give user/admin access > to > > modify each of 2 records for each script that get concatenated when > > displayed with default help then user help. If they modify default help > > then they just don't ever use the function to update help automatically. > Or > > we could explain how they need to modify/replace the manual then run > > automatic update. > > the manual though is kind of more a how it works manual than a step by step > this is how you do it tutorial. I guess I am seeing a difference between the > online help and the manual in this sense. Although heck there's no reason > why the online help can't include the higher level descriptions of what is > going on too. I personally need to understand the workings of things to be > able to operate them effectively. I guess this is why the manual is the way > it is. > > Phil > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-07-08 11:05:01
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Hi Dick, I won't be doing anything with the images for the development I'm doing except possibly moving their position. For now, if I download (checkout) using WinCVS, copy good images to the proper folder, do my development and send Phil the diff then the problem with images won't matter, will it? In other words, I'm thinking the diff will only be the code changes and therefore not do anything to the images. I think I'll know more once I've finished the document on cvs that I've only read half of plus played around with WinCVS. At some point soon I'll see if I can also remind Phil about getting the images into binary form ;) Phil's definitely using a Linux machine and I believe the built in cvs with it. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stins, Dick" <DR...@Zi...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:10 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > Steve, > > Images and other binaries like .doc and .... do need to be inserted in CVS > as binaries (special option), otherwise they will contain errors when they > are checked out. Only in special conditions (Phil seems to hava no problems > with it) there no errors. I guess that the condition is that when it is > inserted and checked out at the same platform, then have a chance that this > is no issue. > > Allthough I already asked Phil to insert binaries as binaries to CVS, I > guess he had other priorities and it still has to be done. > > With best regards, > > Dick Sitns > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 4:02 AM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > > > > I like the HTML kit for coding. > > > > Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phil Daintree" <ph...@du...> > > To: <web...@li...> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 9:30 PM > > Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > On Thursday 08 July 2004 13:06, you wrote: > > > > > > > > I've read, downloaded and installed WinCVS. Now I just have to figure > > out > > > > how to set it up for SourceForge and how to use it. Don't think the > use > > > > will be too difficult if it's anything like SourceSafe. > > > > > > > > I believe what I do is "check out" (pull down) the cvs and run a diff > > from > > > > within WinCVS that I give to you. > > > > > > > Yes that sounds right - I'm not sure how it works on windows - think > > someone > > > reported an issue with downloading the images off sourceforge there is > > some > > > special setting for WinCVS? > > > > > > > I use an excellent file comparer called Beyond Compare that rivals > > Visual > > > > SlickEdit so I think the diff will be something like that. I hear > > there's > > > > an Open Source file comparer I might want to check out too. > > > > > > I have no idea about the pros and cons of all the various tools I just > use > > > KATE (K Advanced Text Editor) which has good Syntax highlighting (I use > > > ConText in windows at work) and standard gnu diff and cvs. > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > Web...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > Web...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-07-08 11:23:57
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Told you guys I didn't know what I was doing. I thought this was a private message to Dick. Joke's on me! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > Hi Dick, > > I won't be doing anything with the images for the development I'm doing > except possibly moving their position. For now, if I download (checkout) > using WinCVS, copy good images to the proper folder, do my development and > send Phil the diff then the problem with images won't matter, will it? > > In other words, I'm thinking the diff will only be the code changes and > therefore not do anything to the images. I think I'll know more once I've > finished the document on cvs that I've only read half of plus played around > with WinCVS. > > At some point soon I'll see if I can also remind Phil about getting the > images into binary form ;) > > Phil's definitely using a Linux machine and I believe the built in cvs with > it. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stins, Dick" <DR...@Zi...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > > > > Steve, > > > > Images and other binaries like .doc and .... do need to be inserted in > CVS > > as binaries (special option), otherwise they will contain errors when they > > are checked out. Only in special conditions (Phil seems to hava no > problems > > with it) there no errors. I guess that the condition is that when it is > > inserted and checked out at the same platform, then have a chance that > this > > is no issue. > > > > Allthough I already asked Phil to insert binaries as binaries to CVS, I > > guess he had other priorities and it still has to be done. > > > > With best regards, > > > > Dick Sitns > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> > > To: <web...@li...> > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 4:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: > Lists > > > > > > > I like the HTML kit for coding. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Phil Daintree" <ph...@du...> > > > To: <web...@li...> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 9:30 PM > > > Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > > > > > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > > > On Thursday 08 July 2004 13:06, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I've read, downloaded and installed WinCVS. Now I just have to > figure > > > out > > > > > how to set it up for SourceForge and how to use it. Don't think the > > use > > > > > will be too difficult if it's anything like SourceSafe. > > > > > > > > > > I believe what I do is "check out" (pull down) the cvs and run a > diff > > > from > > > > > within WinCVS that I give to you. > > > > > > > > > Yes that sounds right - I'm not sure how it works on windows - think > > > someone > > > > reported an issue with downloading the images off sourceforge there is > > > some > > > > special setting for WinCVS? > > > > > > > > > I use an excellent file comparer called Beyond Compare that rivals > > > Visual > > > > > SlickEdit so I think the diff will be something like that. I hear > > > there's > > > > > an Open Source file comparer I might want to check out too. > > > > > > > > I have no idea about the pros and cons of all the various tools I just > > use > > > > KATE (K Advanced Text Editor) which has good Syntax highlighting (I > use > > > > ConText in windows at work) and standard gnu diff and cvs. > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > > Web...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > Web...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > Web...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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From: Stins, D. <DR...@Zi...> - 2004-07-08 13:06:48
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Steve, You are right. When you do not use the checked out binaries (imageg, ...) but only scripts then it is a good workaround. Ofcourse it would be an improvement when the binaries are inserted in to CVS as binaries. I read that you are using a diff utility. Tip: you can also use CVS for this! CVS has proper diff utilities and merge utilities. With best regards, Dick Stins ----- Original Message ----- From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > Hi Dick, > > I won't be doing anything with the images for the development I'm doing > except possibly moving their position. For now, if I download (checkout) > using WinCVS, copy good images to the proper folder, do my development and > send Phil the diff then the problem with images won't matter, will it? > > In other words, I'm thinking the diff will only be the code changes and > therefore not do anything to the images. I think I'll know more once I've > finished the document on cvs that I've only read half of plus played around > with WinCVS. > > At some point soon I'll see if I can also remind Phil about getting the > images into binary form ;) > > Phil's definitely using a Linux machine and I believe the built in cvs with > it. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stins, Dick" <DR...@Zi...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > > > > Steve, > > > > Images and other binaries like .doc and .... do need to be inserted in > CVS > > as binaries (special option), otherwise they will contain errors when they > > are checked out. Only in special conditions (Phil seems to hava no > problems > > with it) there no errors. I guess that the condition is that when it is > > inserted and checked out at the same platform, then have a chance that > this > > is no issue. > > > > Allthough I already asked Phil to insert binaries as binaries to CVS, I > > guess he had other priorities and it still has to be done. > > > > With best regards, > > > > Dick Sitns > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> > > To: <web...@li...> > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 4:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: > Lists > > > > > > > I like the HTML kit for coding. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Phil Daintree" <ph...@du...> > > > To: <web...@li...> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 9:30 PM > > > Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > > > > > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > > > On Thursday 08 July 2004 13:06, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I've read, downloaded and installed WinCVS. Now I just have to > figure > > > out > > > > > how to set it up for SourceForge and how to use it. Don't think the > > use > > > > > will be too difficult if it's anything like SourceSafe. > > > > > > > > > > I believe what I do is "check out" (pull down) the cvs and run a > diff > > > from > > > > > within WinCVS that I give to you. > > > > > > > > > Yes that sounds right - I'm not sure how it works on windows - think > > > someone > > > > reported an issue with downloading the images off sourceforge there is > > > some > > > > special setting for WinCVS? > > > > > > > > > I use an excellent file comparer called Beyond Compare that rivals > > > Visual > > > > > SlickEdit so I think the diff will be something like that. I hear > > > there's > > > > > an Open Source file comparer I might want to check out too. > > > > > > > > I have no idea about the pros and cons of all the various tools I just > > use > > > > KATE (K Advanced Text Editor) which has good Syntax highlighting (I > use > > > > ConText in windows at work) and standard gnu diff and cvs. > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > > Web...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > Web...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > Web...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > |
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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-07-08 14:17:17
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Good to know, thanks. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stins, Dick" <DR...@Zi...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > Steve, > > You are right. When you do not use the checked out binaries (imageg, ...) > but only scripts then it is a good workaround. > > Ofcourse it would be an improvement when the binaries are inserted in to CVS > as binaries. > > I read that you are using a diff utility. Tip: you can also use CVS for > this! CVS has proper diff utilities and merge utilities. > > With best regards, > > Dick Stins > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > > > > Hi Dick, > > > > I won't be doing anything with the images for the development I'm doing > > except possibly moving their position. For now, if I download (checkout) > > using WinCVS, copy good images to the proper folder, do my development and > > send Phil the diff then the problem with images won't matter, will it? > > > > In other words, I'm thinking the diff will only be the code changes and > > therefore not do anything to the images. I think I'll know more once I've > > finished the document on cvs that I've only read half of plus played > around > > with WinCVS. > > > > At some point soon I'll see if I can also remind Phil about getting the > > images into binary form ;) > > > > Phil's definitely using a Linux machine and I believe the built in cvs > with > > it. > > > > Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stins, Dick" <DR...@Zi...> > > To: <web...@li...> > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:10 AM > > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: > Lists > > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > Images and other binaries like .doc and .... do need to be inserted in > > CVS > > > as binaries (special option), otherwise they will contain errors when > they > > > are checked out. Only in special conditions (Phil seems to hava no > > problems > > > with it) there no errors. I guess that the condition is that when it is > > > inserted and checked out at the same platform, then have a chance that > > this > > > is no issue. > > > > > > Allthough I already asked Phil to insert binaries as binaries to CVS, I > > > guess he had other priorities and it still has to be done. > > > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > Dick Sitns > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> > > > To: <web...@li...> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 4:02 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: > > Lists > > > > > > > > > > I like the HTML kit for coding. > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Phil Daintree" <ph...@du...> > > > > To: <web...@li...> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 9:30 PM > > > > Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: > Lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday 08 July 2004 13:06, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I've read, downloaded and installed WinCVS. Now I just have to > > figure > > > > out > > > > > > how to set it up for SourceForge and how to use it. Don't think > the > > > use > > > > > > will be too difficult if it's anything like SourceSafe. > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe what I do is "check out" (pull down) the cvs and run a > > diff > > > > from > > > > > > within WinCVS that I give to you. > > > > > > > > > > > Yes that sounds right - I'm not sure how it works on windows - think > > > > someone > > > > > reported an issue with downloading the images off sourceforge there > is > > > > some > > > > > special setting for WinCVS? > > > > > > > > > > > I use an excellent file comparer called Beyond Compare that rivals > > > > Visual > > > > > > SlickEdit so I think the diff will be something like that. I hear > > > > there's > > > > > > an Open Source file comparer I might want to check out too. > > > > > > > > > > I have no idea about the pros and cons of all the various tools I > just > > > use > > > > > KATE (K Advanced Text Editor) which has good Syntax highlighting (I > > use > > > > > ConText in windows at work) and standard gnu diff and cvs. > > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > > > Web...@li... > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > > unmatched networking opportunities. 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From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-07-08 21:23:47
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Consider me reminded -will have a crack at later. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > Hi Dick, > > I won't be doing anything with the images for the development I'm doing > except possibly moving their position. For now, if I download (checkout) > using WinCVS, copy good images to the proper folder, do my development and > send Phil the diff then the problem with images won't matter, will it? > > In other words, I'm thinking the diff will only be the code changes and > therefore not do anything to the images. I think I'll know more once I've > finished the document on cvs that I've only read half of plus played around > with WinCVS. > > At some point soon I'll see if I can also remind Phil about getting the > images into binary form ;) > > Phil's definitely using a Linux machine and I believe the built in cvs with > it. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stins, Dick" <DR...@Zi...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > > > > Steve, > > > > Images and other binaries like .doc and .... do need to be inserted in > CVS > > as binaries (special option), otherwise they will contain errors when they > > are checked out. Only in special conditions (Phil seems to hava no > problems > > with it) there no errors. I guess that the condition is that when it is > > inserted and checked out at the same platform, then have a chance that > this > > is no issue. > > > > Allthough I already asked Phil to insert binaries as binaries to CVS, I > > guess he had other priorities and it still has to be done. > > > > With best regards, > > > > Dick Sitns > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...> > > To: <web...@li...> > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 4:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: > Lists > > > > > > > I like the HTML kit for coding. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Phil Daintree" <ph...@du...> > > > To: <web...@li...> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 9:30 PM > > > Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Re: [web-erp - Open Discussion] RE: Lists > > > > > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > > > On Thursday 08 July 2004 13:06, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I've read, downloaded and installed WinCVS. Now I just have to > figure > > > out > > > > > how to set it up for SourceForge and how to use it. Don't think the > > use > > > > > will be too difficult if it's anything like SourceSafe. > > > > > > > > > > I believe what I do is "check out" (pull down) the cvs and run a > diff > > > from > > > > > within WinCVS that I give to you. > > > > > > > > > Yes that sounds right - I'm not sure how it works on windows - think > > > someone > > > > reported an issue with downloading the images off sourceforge there is > > > some > > > > special setting for WinCVS? > > > > > > > > > I use an excellent file comparer called Beyond Compare that rivals > > > Visual > > > > > SlickEdit so I think the diff will be something like that. I hear > > > there's > > > > > an Open Source file comparer I might want to check out too. > > > > > > > > I have no idea about the pros and cons of all the various tools I just > > use > > > > KATE (K Advanced Text Editor) which has good Syntax highlighting (I > use > > > > ConText in windows at work) and standard gnu diff and cvs. > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > > Web...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > > Web...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > Web...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > |
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From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-07-09 00:41:35
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I don't have any restrictions on viewing or editing/deleting the help at the moment but thats easy enough to change. At this stage I'll take whatever anyone wants to contribute! Since the help record is echo'ed to the browser html stuff will be rendered ok - but php will not be parsed by the server. Phil > One other thing about this help system. Since it is user/admin input into > records and regenerated into an html page, the code needs to be cautious > about what html and php commands are used, if any. Some are handy, and many > forum packages allow such as phpbb including commands like bold, highlight, > paragraph, list, etc. Of course, for paragraph there is a php command that > can recognize them and format appropriately. > > If only admin has access then not too dangerous but still probably good to > keep people from shooting themselves in the foot! > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...> > To: <web...@li...> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 5:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS updates > > > > > Beauty! We could incorporate a facility I have already done for users > to > > > update help. It's basic. A screen with a huge text box and Save/Cancel > > > kind of thing. I'll have to figure out the css to get it looking like > the > > > rest of the system unless someone else with some time and experience > with > > > webERP could do that part. Does this sound good? > > > > > Yep, thats what I did. This new script Help.php has a textarea for entry > of > > new help records. > > Just nothing in the help table yet. > > > > > Once that's in place it won't be too difficult to copy and paste chunks > > from > > > the manual(s) into the various script help areas/records to get started. > > > > > > > Now thats an area I'd really appreciate some help with. Followed by a dump > > of the data to an sql script that is emailed to me. > > > > > Just a thought at this point. It would be nice if eventually we could > > have > > > a process that knew how to go through an updated manual, clip the chunks > > and > > > update the help records. Possibly it could work by table of contents > > titles > > > or some kind of indicator. Kind of like anchors. This is not a first > > > priority but would be nice. This would only work if user added help was > > > kept separate from default help though. We could give user/admin access > > to > > > modify each of 2 records for each script that get concatenated when > > > displayed with default help then user help. If they modify default help > > > then they just don't ever use the function to update help automatically. > > Or > > > we could explain how they need to modify/replace the manual then run > > > automatic update. > > > > the manual though is kind of more a how it works manual than a step by > step > > this is how you do it tutorial. I guess I am seeing a difference between > the > > online help and the manual in this sense. Although heck there's no reason > > why the online help can't include the higher level descriptions of what is > > going on too. I personally need to understand the workings of things to be > > able to operate them effectively. I guess this is why the manual is the > way > > it is. > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Web-erp-developers mailing list > > Web...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > |
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