Re: [Web-erp-developers] Special Area

[skaill <sk...@ro...>]

I was thinking some more about Wiki.  A couple of questions if anybody knows
Wiki well:

1) Is it possible in Wiki to reorganize the structure of the pages/site
easily?  The reason is I can see people adding more and more and then the
need to group it later and possibly sub-group it later.

2) Can a structure, standards, etc. be enforced within Wiki?  While it's
nice to supply some variance for creators we still want something structured
along the lines of title, description, etc.  If not then you never know what
you're going to get.  I guess one of the admins could go in later to clean
up to a standard though.  Only that creates more work then having the
standards enforced when creating.

If we don't have some standards/structure then the site will be too
confusing.  One thing a forum provides automatically is some
structure/standards.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...>
To: <web...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Special Area


> I could install this on sourceforge.
> Once installed I'll make it completly open.
>
> Phil
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...>
> To: <web...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Special Area
>
>
> > This looks like a good suggestion to me.  It looks easy to install.  I
> > wonder what others think.  I don't want to assume too much so Phil needs
> to
> > take a look and see if he likes.
> >
> > Beyond that there are a couple of questions:
> >
> > 1) webERP has it's own sort of website within SourceForge.  Does
> SourceForge
> > already supply a Wiki facility that we could use within the webERP site?
> >
> > 2) Could phpWiki be installed and run on that site or could a link from
> that
> > site redirect to our webERP Wiki stored on another server?
> >
> > What do you think about all of this, Phil?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Hani Naguib" <ha...@na...>
> > To: <web...@li...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Special Area
> >
> >
> > > Consider using a wiki. There are many version available this is the
one
> > > I am familiar with:
> > > http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/
> > >
> > >
> > > skaill wrote:
> > >
> > > >*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm)
> > Pro*
> > > >I'm thinking what is needed is an area that you (and possibly others
> you
> > > >designate) can maintain.  An area that has a heading, description,
> > > >attachment(s) and link(s).  The admin(s) can modify the subject
titles
> to
> > > >that which everyone can recognize.  Later it could be decided to
group
> > the
> > > >ideas as they grow larger.  As it gets larger it would be good to
have
> a
> > > >search mechanism.
> > > >
> > > >I guess what I'm basically describing is www.download.com but without
a
> > > >requirement on links or attachments although many would have.
> > > >
> > > >There could be better mechanisms but one that pops in my mind is an
> > > >ideas/WIP/add-ons forum.  Can't remember if forum software has the
> > ability
> > > >to store attachments though.  I have installed, maintained and used
> phpbb
> > in
> > > >the past but not recently.  Possibly sourceforge has something built
in
> > but
> > > >it needs to store words because they will be what's most important
for
> an
> > > >ideas area.  There may be software more suited to what I'm describing
> but
> > I
> > > >can't think of any.
> > > >
> > > >If we all put our heads together I think we can come up with
something
> > good
> > > >that serves the purposes without too much work and trouble.  Part of
> the
> > > >point would be that some have ideas or knowledge related to webERP
that
> > > >others don't know about.  If it was in that area others may take it
to
> > > >another level and soon you have something you can include.  Kind of
> like
> > > >what happened with the Multilanguage through the list but ideas not
> taken
> > up
> > > >and kept up immediately in the list can easily die and not be noticed
> > later
> > > >by others.
> > > >
> > > >Steve
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...>
> > > >To: <web...@li...>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:45 AM
> > > >Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Special Area
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>What format should such a special area take?
> > > >>
> > > >>A web page with links to what could be done?
> > > >>
> > > >>An ftp repositary with additional files in it. What files to include
> > then?
> > > >>
> > > >>The developer archives are good - but I notice that folks are not
that
> > > >>particular about the subject title given to the email - so the
> archives
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >are
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>pretty labour intensive to find what you are after and the subjects
> are
> > > >>often misleading.
> > > >>
> > > >>If we have addons - we include them or perhaps we provide a link to
> what
> > > >>someone else has done but has not been included. Normally we will
> > include
> > > >>them of course - so what purpose and what information will be
> available
> > in
> > > >>the special area.
> > > >>
> > > >>Anything that serves the purposes that you see is a good thing - I
> just
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >dont
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>see what the thing is! I know when you tell me it will be obvious to
> me
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >but
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>I just dont get what information we would show.
> > > >>
> > > >>The cool graph class is worthless unless one of us gets into some
> > > >>development using it. Of course if there was any development using
it
> I
> > > >>would be very keen to include it -especially if we could print them.
> > > >>
> > > >>Phil
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >>From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...>
> > > >>To: <web...@li...>
> > > >>Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:58 PM
> > > >>Subject: Fw: [Web-erp-developers] Feature List/Road Map
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>There are several reasons for having a special area:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>1) A place where people can realize how much extra there is to add
on
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >and
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>how many others are contributing beyond the core.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>2) It can be the difference between someone deciding to go with
> webERP
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >if
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>they know that their special needs can be supplied.  For instance
if
> > one
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>of
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>the requirements is that charts must be supplied to management...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>3) It will build the product faster.  That which is extra today, if
> it
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>gets
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>much attention, may be built in tomorrow.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Steve
> > > >>>
> > > >>>----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >>>From: "skaill" <sk...@ro...>
> > > >>>To: <web...@li...>
> > > >>>Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 8:42 PM
> > > >>>Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Feature List/Road Map
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>Phil, someone (I think Dick) had mentioned an area that could be
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >created
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>for
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>webERP for additions others may have an interest in.  This is one
of
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>those
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>really cool things that would be nice to have readily seen in a
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >special
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>area.  Is there any possibility of creating such an area?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>What I see is that we're talking about these cool graphs now but
> this
> > > >>>>discussion will get buried in a tremendous amount of discussion on
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >this
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>list
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>so that everyone who is not subscribed and everyone in the future
> will
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>never
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>know about this neat chart possibility for webERP.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Steve
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >>>>From: "Chris Bice" <cb...@en...>
> > > >>>>To: <web...@li...>
> > > >>>>Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 9:12 AM
> > > >>>>Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] Feature List/Road Map
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>Here is a great tool I use for graphical charting with PHP.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>http://www.maani.us/charts/index.php
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>It takes the php data and puts it into a Flash Component.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Check it out.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Chris
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>>From: web...@li...
> > > >>>>>[mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf
> Of
> > > >>>>>Phil Daintree
> > > >>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:33 AM
> > > >>>>>To: web...@li...
> > > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Feature List/Road Map
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>I am a BIG fan of PDF - compact, open spec and abundant 3rd party
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>tools.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>Precise positioning - free reading using a multitude of readers.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Not such a fan of such large peices of software to read them.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >However,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>everyone has a pdf reader they are as widely used almost as a
> > > >>>>>web-browser.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>You've had quite a chequered history Steve working for was it
Great
> > > >>>>>Plains (or one of those big accounting software vendors)
previously
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>and
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>now a major imaging company.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>I am thinking really only perhaps some comparative graphing and
KPI
> > > >>>>>reporting perhaps on order fill, stock turnover, gross profit by
> > > >>>>>salesman, product category etc etc. I see this as pdf based all
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >using
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>the existing class we are currently using.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>I am a little concerned about the multi-language capability of
this
> > > >>>>>class. I will not re-write these reports a 3rd time!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Phil
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>On Sat, 2004-09-11 at 11:43, skaill wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>I'm not sure that graphical output is necessary in the base.  It
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >is
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>necessary, however, to have presentable reports.  There is a
real
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>challenge
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>in this area.  To pdf or not.  I'm not real keen on pdf.  It's
not
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>readily
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>extractable and proprietary.  And of course I don't trust Adobe
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >with
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>its
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>over inflated $600 products and it's many products that should
be
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>one
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>product.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>A specialty of mine is reporting and imaging as I work in a lead
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>capacity
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>for a large "outsourcing" imaging company some years back that
did
> > > >>>>>>microfiche, (laser) printing, storage, etc, for larger scale
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>companies
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>like
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>banks, government, etc.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>I think I have or could do a decent report engine but it would
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>require
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>some
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>work and help because I have to make a living too ;)
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>What html does not do and what a good reporting engine does need
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >to
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>do
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>is be
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>positional.  That is the key to reporting.  That and an easy
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>interface
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>;)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>Steve
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >>>>>>From: "Daintrees" <p.d...@pa...>
> > > >>>>>>To: <web...@li...>
> > > >>>>>>Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 5:28 PM
> > > >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Feature List/Road Map
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Its tough to nail anyone down to a completion date .. least of
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >all
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>me ...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>on
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>a project like this.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>I would dearly love the system to have the following
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Work orders - usage variances
> > > >>>>>>>Master Schedule and MRP
> > > >>>>>>>Capacity planning
> > > >>>>>>>Warehouse management
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>A number of reports and perhaps graphical output would also be
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>good.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>>However, other contributors have other ideas and I am happy to
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>incorporate
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>their ideas in too. My wish list starts seeing webERP grow into
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >a
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>real
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>force
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>in ERP software - much of my efforts are therefore in support
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >and
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>getting
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>others involved. My own capacity to drive these functionality
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >aims
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>forward
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>is therefore displaced somewhat.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Phil
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >>>>>>>From: <wmc...@mc...>
> > > >>>>>>>To: <web...@li...>
> > > >>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:44 AM
> > > >>>>>>>Subject: [Web-erp-developers] Feature List/Road Map
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>Is there a future feature list and/or road map with projection
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>dates
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>available?  We currently use this app in our office and have 2
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>clients
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>that
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>are in demo mode with web-erp.  Just wondering what to look
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>forward to.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>Thanks
> > > >>>>>>>>
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