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Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] task #4 - evaluating some unit testing and mocking frameworks

[Ulf L. <ul...@wa...>]

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:28:16 +0100
Piotr Bienkiewicz <dms...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Ulf/all,
> 
> I've just committed a small cxxtest sample project. Check out the
> repository!
> 
> Since cxxtest doesn't supports features to test an occurrence of C++
> signals, there is an possible workaround posted by Bill Hart in
> cxxtest help-forum:
> "At the moment, signal handlers are not supported in CxxTest.
> However, you could support this by creating a signal handler that
> throws an exception that is caught by CxxTest using TS_ASSERT_
> THROWS."

Ok, the only signals that might reasonably be sent are floating point
error and segfaults. We will see if we ever want to test for them
(normally you want your code not to do this...). Other signals are
probably not critical enough to care for them. In the worst case, we
have a 30-hour simulation running. While it is annoying to get it
killed, it is not extremely critical.


Ulf

Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] Choice of IDE and coding format

[Piotr B. <dms...@gm...>]

Hi Sakthivel/all,

I am using NetBeans IDE too. Since NetBeans provides some built-in support
for mercurial i would try this out and maybe post my experiences??

Piotr

2013/1/10 Sakthi <sak...@gm...>

> Hi Ulf/All,
>            I remember we were having discussions about the IDE that we are
> going to use and Andrea suggested Eclipse. Are we going to use the same ?
> Since you are the only person who have checked in some code, I am just
> curious to know what IDE/editor are you using ? Also are there any formats
> that we should stick with ? I have seen you using K&R style of braces and I
> am more comfortable with that for it's readability ? But anyone else is
> having any thought on that ??
>
> If we decide on IDE, we can have IDE also as an important parameter in
> choosing Unit Test framework as it brings down the load of writing too many
> test code.
>
>
> Folks, your thoughts ?
>
> -Sakthivel Sundaresan
>
>
> *Whatever you do, work at it wholeheartedly as though you were doing it
> for the Lord and not merely for people.
> Col 3.23 (ISV)
> *
>
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Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] task #4 - evaluating some unit testing and mocking frameworks

[Piotr B. <dms...@gm...>]

Hi Ulf/all,

I've just committed a small cxxtest sample project. Check out the
repository!

Since cxxtest doesn't supports features to test an occurrence of C++
signals, there is an possible workaround posted by Bill Hart in cxxtest
help-forum:
"At the moment, signal handlers are not supported in CxxTest.  However, you
could support this by creating a signal handler that throws an exception
that is caught by CxxTest using TS_ASSERT_ THROWS."

In addition to the JUnit-like behavior, cxxtest provides a mechanism for
defining mock functions. Unfortunately it seems that it supports merely
mocking a global/static member functions -
https://github.com/CxxTest/cxxtest/issues/52

For the moment i would finish the exploration of cxxtest and go on to
evaluate another framework.

Piotr

2013/1/10 Ulf Lorenz <ul...@wa...>

> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:24:55 +0100
> Piotr Bienkiewicz <dms...@gm...> wrote:
>
> > @Ulf : I tried to attach an example program to ticket but it seems
> > not to work. I can't see the posted attachment.
>
> Mmh. I just tried and it worked for me. Did you click on post and
> everything? Can you actually post at all?
>
> There might be some problems with various source forge tools. However,
> they do also fix things rather quick, so if this problem stays, I would
> suggest to raise this issue under
> https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/
>
> Last but not least, I do not mind if you put the test code with a
> minimalistic Makefile and/or build readme in the repository.
>
>
> Ulf
>
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Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] Choice of IDE and coding format

[Ulf L. <ul...@wa...>]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:38:09 +0530
Sakthi <sak...@gm...> wrote:

> To add ,
>  Here is the link that discusses about different popular C/C++ IDEs.
> My vote is for eclipse. But we can discuss on this .
> http://www.hacktrix.com/top-5-free-c-and-cpp-integrated-development-environment
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Sakthivel Sundaresan
> 
> *Whatever you do, work at it wholeheartedly as though you were doing
> it for the Lord and not merely for people.
> Col 3.23 (ISV)
> *
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Sakthi <sak...@gm...>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Ulf/All,
> >            I remember we were having discussions about the IDE that
> > we are going to use and Andrea suggested Eclipse. Are we going to
> > use the same ? Since you are the only person who have checked in
> > some code, I am just curious to know what IDE/editor are you
> > using ? Also are there any formats that we should stick with ? I
> > have seen you using K&R style of braces and I am more comfortable
> > with that for it's readability ? But anyone else is having any
> > thought on that ??
> >
> > If we decide on IDE, we can have IDE also as an important parameter
> > in choosing Unit Test framework as it brings down the load of
> > writing too many test code.

I would not tie anything to an IDE. And actually, I would like to have
the whole build process doable from a "normal" build system (Makefiles
for now), since I have never so far seen a physicist use an IDE
(unless it is provided with the program, as in Matlab). We could add the
IDE project files to the repository for convenience if this comes in
handy. I guess at the end of the day, we will only have two or three
variants anyway.

I use Netbeans, but compared to the Java-interface, C++ is pretty
minimalistic; however, I think I have not looked at any plugin yet.

Regarding the style, I would suggest to stick to K&R braces, use
tabs for indentation, and capital letters for long names
(thisIsALongFunctionName instead of this_is_a_...). Otherwise, we have
all coded in Java and know how to write clean code (as compared to some
source code I am just testing out). ;)

Does this answer your questions?


Ulf

Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] task #4 - evaluating some unit testing and mocking frameworks

[Ulf L. <ul...@wa...>]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:24:55 +0100
Piotr Bienkiewicz <dms...@gm...> wrote:

> @Ulf : I tried to attach an example program to ticket but it seems
> not to work. I can't see the posted attachment.

Mmh. I just tried and it worked for me. Did you click on post and
everything? Can you actually post at all?

There might be some problems with various source forge tools. However,
they do also fix things rather quick, so if this problem stays, I would
suggest to raise this issue under
https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/

Last but not least, I do not mind if you put the test code with a
minimalistic Makefile and/or build readme in the repository.


Ulf

Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] Choice of IDE and coding format

[Sakthi <sak...@gm...>]

To add ,
 Here is the link that discusses about different popular C/C++ IDEs.  My
vote is for eclipse. But we can discuss on this .
http://www.hacktrix.com/top-5-free-c-and-cpp-integrated-development-environment

Thanks.

-Sakthivel Sundaresan

*Whatever you do, work at it wholeheartedly as though you were doing it for
the Lord and not merely for people.
Col 3.23 (ISV)
*


On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Sakthi <sak...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Ulf/All,
>            I remember we were having discussions about the IDE that we are
> going to use and Andrea suggested Eclipse. Are we going to use the same ?
> Since you are the only person who have checked in some code, I am just
> curious to know what IDE/editor are you using ? Also are there any formats
> that we should stick with ? I have seen you using K&R style of braces and I
> am more comfortable with that for it's readability ? But anyone else is
> having any thought on that ??
>
> If we decide on IDE, we can have IDE also as an important parameter in
> choosing Unit Test framework as it brings down the load of writing too many
> test code.
>
>
> Folks, your thoughts ?
>
> -Sakthivel Sundaresan
>
>
> *Whatever you do, work at it wholeheartedly as though you were doing it
> for the Lord and not merely for people.
> Col 3.23 (ISV)
> *
>

[Wavepacket-ng-devel] Choice of IDE and coding format

[Sakthi <sak...@gm...>]

Hi Ulf/All,
           I remember we were having discussions about the IDE that we are
going to use and Andrea suggested Eclipse. Are we going to use the same ?
Since you are the only person who have checked in some code, I am just
curious to know what IDE/editor are you using ? Also are there any formats
that we should stick with ? I have seen you using K&R style of braces and I
am more comfortable with that for it's readability ? But anyone else is
having any thought on that ??

If we decide on IDE, we can have IDE also as an important parameter in
choosing Unit Test framework as it brings down the load of writing too many
test code.


Folks, your thoughts ?

-Sakthivel Sundaresan


*Whatever you do, work at it wholeheartedly as though you were doing it for
the Lord and not merely for people.
Col 3.23 (ISV)
*

Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] task #4 - evaluating some unit testing and mocking frameworks

[Piotr B. <dms...@gm...>]

@Ulf : I tried to attach an example program to ticket but it seems not to
work. I can't see the posted attachment.

2013/1/10 Piotr Bienkiewicz <dms...@gm...>

> Following the suggestion i will try to describe some relevant features of
> the CxxTest framework:
>
> 1. Minimal amount of work needed to add new tests
>
> Creating new test cases with CxxTest turns out pretty easy and requires
> minimal programming effort.
> No manual registration of test cases or use of some ugly macros is needed.
> CxxTest gets around that by parsing test cases and generating a C++ test
> runner.
> The build process looks like the following:
> 1. Tests are defined in C++ header files
> 2. The "cxxtestgen" command line tool processes header files to generate
> files for the test runner.
> 3. Finally, the test runner can be compiled and executed to run all test
> suites.
>
> 3. Supports fixtures.
>
> Great support. A wide range of functions available:
> - setup/teardown for individual tests
> - setup/teardown for the whole test suite
> - world(global) fixtures
>
> 4. Handles exceptions and crashes well
>
> Very good. Again, a rich set of functions is available to check if certain
> exceptions were thrown.
> No support for dealing with C++ signals found yet.
> I have not found on this topic in the documentation or during google
> search.
> Maybe we'll find more info in CxxTest forum. I have already asked for some
> hint - https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/cxxtest-forum
>
> 5. Supports different outputs
>
> Good support. In addition to the standard output, the test results can be
> stored in XML format.
>
> Another plus - CxxTest supports testing with mock objects which i will
> study in next step.
> Last but not least i have attached an example test suite to the Ticket.
>
> Piotr
>
> 2013/1/7 Ulf Lorenz <ul...@wa...>
>
>> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 20:37:51 +0100
>> Piotr Bienkiewicz <dms...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> > After some search I've found a couple of valuable frameworks.
>> > An interesting comparison can be found here:
>> >
>> http://gamesfromwithin.com/exploring-the-c-unit-testing-framework-jungle.
>>
>> Nice, and pretty much what I was thinking of, though a little outdated,
>> and some things like his portability concerns are not relevant for us.
>> After having looked around for the tensor stuff, I would suggest that
>> you rank the libraries (and maybe more if you find them, e.g.,
>> googletest) using the criteria 1,3,4,(5), throw out strange projects
>> (bad documentation, arcane installation, inactive projects), and try
>> out the best, say, 4 candidates. To keep the amount of work in a
>> reasonable frame.
>>
>>
>> This mail also reminds me of a ping that I wanted to write: If you get a
>> task, could you always acknowledge it in some way (assigning the task
>> to yourself, mailing a short ok or something), just to give me the
>> feeling something is happening. :)
>>
>>
>> Ulf
>>
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Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] task #4 - evaluating some unit testing and mocking frameworks

[Piotr B. <dms...@gm...>]

Following the suggestion i will try to describe some relevant features of
the CxxTest framework:

1. Minimal amount of work needed to add new tests

Creating new test cases with CxxTest turns out pretty easy and requires
minimal programming effort.
No manual registration of test cases or use of some ugly macros is needed.
CxxTest gets around that by parsing test cases and generating a C++ test
runner.
The build process looks like the following:
1. Tests are defined in C++ header files
2. The "cxxtestgen" command line tool processes header files to generate
files for the test runner.
3. Finally, the test runner can be compiled and executed to run all test
suites.

3. Supports fixtures.

Great support. A wide range of functions available:
- setup/teardown for individual tests
- setup/teardown for the whole test suite
- world(global) fixtures

4. Handles exceptions and crashes well

Very good. Again, a rich set of functions is available to check if certain
exceptions were thrown.
No support for dealing with C++ signals found yet.
I have not found on this topic in the documentation or during google search.
Maybe we'll find more info in CxxTest forum. I have already asked for some
hint - https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/cxxtest-forum

5. Supports different outputs

Good support. In addition to the standard output, the test results can be
stored in XML format.

Another plus - CxxTest supports testing with mock objects which i will
study in next step.
Last but not least i have attached an example test suite to the Ticket.

Piotr

2013/1/7 Ulf Lorenz <ul...@wa...>

> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 20:37:51 +0100
> Piotr Bienkiewicz <dms...@gm...> wrote:
>
> > After some search I've found a couple of valuable frameworks.
> > An interesting comparison can be found here:
> > http://gamesfromwithin.com/exploring-the-c-unit-testing-framework-jungle
> .
>
> Nice, and pretty much what I was thinking of, though a little outdated,
> and some things like his portability concerns are not relevant for us.
> After having looked around for the tensor stuff, I would suggest that
> you rank the libraries (and maybe more if you find them, e.g.,
> googletest) using the criteria 1,3,4,(5), throw out strange projects
> (bad documentation, arcane installation, inactive projects), and try
> out the best, say, 4 candidates. To keep the amount of work in a
> reasonable frame.
>
>
> This mail also reminds me of a ping that I wanted to write: If you get a
> task, could you always acknowledge it in some way (assigning the task
> to yourself, mailing a short ok or something), just to give me the
> feeling something is happening. :)
>
>
> Ulf
>
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Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] task #4 - evaluating some unit testing and mocking frameworks

[Ulf L. <ul...@wa...>]

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 20:37:51 +0100
Piotr Bienkiewicz <dms...@gm...> wrote:

> After some search I've found a couple of valuable frameworks.
> An interesting comparison can be found here:
> http://gamesfromwithin.com/exploring-the-c-unit-testing-framework-jungle.

Nice, and pretty much what I was thinking of, though a little outdated,
and some things like his portability concerns are not relevant for us.
After having looked around for the tensor stuff, I would suggest that
you rank the libraries (and maybe more if you find them, e.g.,
googletest) using the criteria 1,3,4,(5), throw out strange projects
(bad documentation, arcane installation, inactive projects), and try
out the best, say, 4 candidates. To keep the amount of work in a
reasonable frame.


This mail also reminds me of a ping that I wanted to write: If you get a
task, could you always acknowledge it in some way (assigning the task
to yourself, mailing a short ok or something), just to give me the
feeling something is happening. :)


Ulf

[Wavepacket-ng-devel] task #4 - evaluating some unit testing and mocking frameworks

[Piotr B. <dms...@gm...>]

After some search I've found a couple of valuable frameworks.
An interesting comparison can be found here:
http://gamesfromwithin.com/exploring-the-c-unit-testing-framework-jungle.

@Sakthivel: I begin with the exploring of CxxTest-Framework

Piotr

[Wavepacket-ng-devel] Task @Sakti and Piotr (was: Still active?)

[Ulf L. <ul...@wa...>]

On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:06:05 +0530
Sakthi <sak...@gm...> wrote:

> Hello Ulf and all,
>          Very great happy new year to all . I am in sir. I am very
> much active and reading your post.

So I would suggest that you and Piotr take over task #4. Find a few
promising unit testing and mocking frameworks, and implement some demo
for each of them as described in the task. Then do some ranking which
unit test / mocking framework is the best to use.

If you have questions or are unsure about something or whatever, feel
free to ask. Otherwise, I would try not to interfere in this task more
than required. So try to discuss among you how to split up the work etc.

In general, I want to go for a pull method, where we first create
tasks, and then people can pair up to do whatever tasks. However, to
quickly get started, I would assign the tasks for now.


Ulf

[Wavepacket-ng-devel] Task @Andrea (was: Still active?)

[Ulf L. <ul...@wa...>]

On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:29:21 +0100
Andrea at dotIT <me...@an...> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> Happy new year! I took some days off during this Xmas holidays and,
> basically, I'll be available next week.

Ok. In this case, I would like to add you to my current task.

In the taskmanager, have a look at task #5 (text + comments). There is
a bit more work involved than I anticipated, on the other hand, I am
optimistic for the first release once this task is done.

I already started to play around with Tensor C++, and would also try to
do ITensor, because it looks rather similar. What I would suggest is
that you look at the portable science toolkit (link in the task). It is
rather heavy, but includes a lot of solvers and stuff, so with just a
quick glance, I would suggest not to dismiss it. You should:

a) try to compile the library
b) write the test cases

The definition of the test cases is written up in a sloppy way; feel
free to ask if you have questions. When the tests for all three
libraries are written, we would then compare notes and figure out which
one to use. At least that is the idea that I have hatched. :)


Ulf

Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] Still active?

[Piotr B. <dms...@gm...>]

Hi,

happy new year to all. I am in.

Piotr

2013/1/2 Ulf Lorenz <ul...@wa...>

> Hi,
>
> first of all, a happy new year. I just committed the first snipplet of
> code, and a work spike on my other project is over, so I would say, the
> actual coding can start now. I apologize that it took so long to get
> started, though.
>
> In any case, I would like to have a reply from all of you that still
> intend to be active.
>
> I just want to get an overview; developers tend to drop out, and it
> has been an empty month. When I have the replies, I would start to
> assign some work.
>
>
> Ulf
>
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Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] Still active?

[Andrea at d. <me...@an...>]

Hi there,

Happy new year! I took some days off during this Xmas holidays and,
basically, I'll be available next week.

Keep in touch,
Andrea

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Sakthi <sak...@gm...> wrote:

> Hello Ulf and all,
>          Very great happy new year to all . I am in sir. I am very much
> active and reading your post.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Sakthivel Sundaresan
> *Whatever you do, work at it wholeheartedly as though you were doing it
> for the Lord and not merely for people.
> Col 3.23 (ISV)
> *
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:09 AM, Ulf Lorenz <ul...@wa...> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> first of all, a happy new year. I just committed the first snipplet of
>> code, and a work spike on my other project is over, so I would say, the
>> actual coding can start now. I apologize that it took so long to get
>> started, though.
>>
>> In any case, I would like to have a reply from all of you that still
>> intend to be active.
>>
>> I just want to get an overview; developers tend to drop out, and it
>> has been an empty month. When I have the replies, I would start to
>> assign some work.
>>
>>
>> Ulf
>>
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Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] Still active?

[Sakthi <sak...@gm...>]

Hello Ulf and all,
         Very great happy new year to all . I am in sir. I am very much
active and reading your post.

Thanks.

-Sakthivel Sundaresan
*Whatever you do, work at it wholeheartedly as though you were doing it for
the Lord and not merely for people.
Col 3.23 (ISV)
*


On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:09 AM, Ulf Lorenz <ul...@wa...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> first of all, a happy new year. I just committed the first snipplet of
> code, and a work spike on my other project is over, so I would say, the
> actual coding can start now. I apologize that it took so long to get
> started, though.
>
> In any case, I would like to have a reply from all of you that still
> intend to be active.
>
> I just want to get an overview; developers tend to drop out, and it
> has been an empty month. When I have the replies, I would start to
> assign some work.
>
>
> Ulf
>
>
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[Wavepacket-ng-devel] Still active?

[Ulf L. <ul...@wa...>]

Hi,

first of all, a happy new year. I just committed the first snipplet of
code, and a work spike on my other project is over, so I would say, the
actual coding can start now. I apologize that it took so long to get
started, though.

In any case, I would like to have a reply from all of you that still
intend to be active.

I just want to get an overview; developers tend to drop out, and it
has been an empty month. When I have the replies, I would start to
assign some work.


Ulf 

[Wavepacket-ng-devel] Status report and question

[Ulf L. <ul...@wa...>]

Hi,

just to report the current status: I have started digging into tensor
libraries, and found two, maybe three that look good on first view. The
status is shown on the corresponding ticket
https://sourceforge.net/p/wavepacket/cpp/tickets/5/
(you need to be logged in to view it; some permission problem or so)

Now the question: The last comment describes the use-cases that I can
think of. Does anyone of you have more ideas what should be
tested/could happen in typical cases?


Otherwise, a happy new year everyone,
Ulf


PS: I want to point out that ticket for testing and mocking libraries
is still unassigned. I also specified the requirements in more detail.

Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] Libraries

[Ulf L. <ul...@wa...>]

Hi,

I just put these two tasks up in the form of tickets.
https://sourceforge.net/p/wavepacket/cpp/tickets/milestone/0.0.1/

You should all have write permission for the ticket system, so if you
want to take one of the tasks, feel free to edit it and assign it to
you.

If you have problems or questions, I would be happy to assist; and if
noone volunteers, I could also look for the libraries myself, but I
am still busy with ... things, and this would have to wait until well
after Christmas, so feel free to take on these tasks.


Ulf

Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] Tracking system

[Ulf L. <ul...@wa...>]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:23:02 +0100
Burkhard Schmidt <Bur...@fu...> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> 
> even without knowing the alternatives from my own experience, I would 
> nevertheless favor the SourceForge internal tracker (ticket system). 
> Even though it may not be the most flexible system, it will always
> have the advantage of being embedded in the Allura interface and thus
> being able to link most directly to the other Allura tools such as
> the Wiki, the code (svn, git,hg) tools etc ... Why making things more
> complicated than necessary?

Well, having all data available on one view might be a good thing.

In any case, since there were no other replies, I would suggest to
first go for the internal ticket system, and then go to a kanban board
(or something else if someone has strong opinions) if this fails to
work out.


Ulf

Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] Build system

[Ulf L. <ul...@wa...>]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:54:09 +0100
Andrea at dotIT <me...@an...> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I think that Makefile is a good starting point. Not sure but it's
> easily create a "Makefile project from Existing Code" under Eclipse
> C/C++

Ok, no more contributions, so I would consider this settled as well.

As a side remark, I am just trying to customize the source forge
tracker. We will see how this turns out.


Ulf,
as usual busy

Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] Objective

[Burkhard S. <Bur...@fu...>]

Hi Ulf,

very nicely written! And very ambitious! Let us see whether we are up to 
fulfill this wishlist ...

Best
Burkhard

On 18.12.2012 20:00, Ulf Lorenz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just wrote down a hopefully coherent objective for the program. If
> you do not agree with it, or wish some changes, feel free to modify or
> discuss it. The page is found under:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/p/wavepacket/cpp/wiki/Objective/
>
>
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[Wavepacket-ng-devel] Objective

[Ulf L. <ul...@wa...>]

Hi,

I just wrote down a hopefully coherent objective for the program. If
you do not agree with it, or wish some changes, feel free to modify or
discuss it. The page is found under:

http://sourceforge.net/p/wavepacket/cpp/wiki/Objective/


Ulf

Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] Build system

[Andrea at d. <me...@an...>]

Hi,

I think that Makefile is a good starting point. Not sure but it's easily
create a "Makefile project from Existing Code" under Eclipse C/C++

Andrea

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Ulf Lorenz <ul...@wa...> wrote:

> Since the build system can be migrated rather easily, does anyone mind
> if we start with simple makefiles?
>
>
> Ulf
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 23:25:23 +0100
> Ulf Lorenz <ul...@wa...> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > what we further need to decide on is a build system. I have some
> > limited knowledge, maybe someone of you can contribute here.
> >
> > The program will consist of different libraries, each being a more
> > or less separate project with different dependencies. It would make
> > sense, for example, to put the mathematical stuff in a separate
> > library, so that we can have, e.g., a simple mathematics library with
> > few dependencies and, say, another library that uses Cuda for more
> > speed, but with exotic dependencies.
> >
> > So what we make is first basic make tool, and second a mechanism for
> > dependency recognition.
> >
> > What I know of make tools is
> > * make (ugly in some parts, but pretty standard on Unix)
> > * ant (Java-based and thus portable)
> > * maven (only heard of it; sounds nice, but no knowledge)
> > Do you have deeper knowledge or know other build toold, and/or what
> > would you suggest to use?
> >
> > For the dependency recognition, what I know here is:
> > * Do everything as variables. The user then has to edit the "Makefile"
> >   and compile
> > * autoconf/automake. Pretty standard, but really ugly as far as I
> >   recall.
> > * CMake. I know it exists, but have never used it.
> > * others?
> > What ideas, suggestions do you have here?
> >
> > Ulf
> >
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Re: [Wavepacket-ng-devel] Libraries

[Burkhard S. <Bur...@fu...>]

>
>
>
>
>
> 2. We need libraries for the basic maths
>     - A library that can represent multidimensional matrices, and do
>       certain manipulations (something like a matrix multiplication
>       along a certain degree of freedom, vector products / summation
>       along a certain degree of freedom, for later also basic things
>       like eigenvalue calculation)
>     - A library for doing an FFT, which is compatible with the matrix
>       library
>
>     As a goal here, you could create a simple program that does these
>     manipulations.
>
>
> Comments/Questions?
>
>
> Ulf
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