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>   1. Re: Mac installation question. (Bruce Sherwood)
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>   3. Re: Mac installation question. (Steve Spicklemire)
>   4. Re: Mac installation question. (Martin Costabel)
>   5. Re: Mac installation question. (Bruce Sherwood)
>   6. Re: Mac installation question. (Bruce Sherwood)
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> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:41:58 -0600
> From: Bruce Sherwood <bas...@nc...>
> Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] Mac installation question.
> To: vpusers <vis...@li...>
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> It's not a problem of not finding packages, since when you import
> numpy you find numpy. The problem is that numpy can't find a resource
> it needs.
>
> I don't know what could be set up oddly on these Macs, but the trace
> claims that ___memcpy_chk should be found in
> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib. So the first thing to do is to verify that
> indeed this file is missing (or damaged?). Is it?
>
> Note that to see /usr/lib in the Finder you need to use the Finder
> menu Go > Go to Folder.
>
> Bruce Sherwood
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Gary Pajer <gar...@gm...> wrote:
> > Our IT dept. just installed vpython on the 'clean' Macs in our lab.?
> AFAIK,
> > they followed the instructions on vpython.org.
> >
> > Unfortunately, python can't find packages.? numpy and visual are
> installed
> > in the "Frameworks" site-packages directory, but they are not found on
> > import.
> >
> > One problem is that PATH is not set properly.? which python ==>
> > /usr/bin/python
> >
> > But if I launch python using the entire path to the executable, then
> import
> > numpy, I get the attached traceback.
> >
> > Anyone know what the missing link is?
> >
> > thanks,
> > gary
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >>>> import numpy
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > ? File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
> > ? File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.
> > framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py",
> line
> > 136, in <module>
> > ??? import add_newdocs
> > ? File
> >
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/add_newdocs.py",
> > line 9, in <module>
> > ??? from numpy.lib import add_newdoc
> > ? File
> >
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/lib/__init__.py",
> > line 4, in <module>
> > ??? from type_check import *
> > ? File
> >
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/lib/type_check.py",
> > line 8, in <module>
> > ??? import numpy.core.numeric as _nx
> > ? File
> >
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/__init__.py",
> > line 5, in <module>
> > ??? import multiarray
> > ImportError:
> >
> dlopen(/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/multiarray.so,
> > 2): Symbol not found: ___memcpy_chk
> > ? Referenced from:
> >
> /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/multiarray.so
> > ? Expected in: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 10:10:10 +0200
> From: Martin Costabel <cos...@wa...>
> Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] Mac installation question.
> To: Bruce Sherwood <bas...@nc...>
> Cc: vpusers <vis...@li...>
> Message-ID: <4C8...@wa...>
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> On 9/09/10 01:41, Bruce Sherwood wrote:
> >
> > It's not a problem of not finding packages, since when you import
> > numpy you find numpy. The problem is that numpy can't find a resource
> > it needs.
> >
> > I don't know what could be set up oddly on these Macs, but the trace
> > claims that ___memcpy_chk should be found in
> > /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib. So the first thing to do is to verify that
> > indeed this file is missing (or damaged?). Is it?
>
> The symbol in question appeared in MacOSX 10.5. Gary's Macs are probably
> running the old MacOSX 10.4 while the installed numpy from the vpython
> package was compiled on MacOSX 10.5 or 10.6 (10.6, as far as I can
> tell). This won't work, although the vpython web page says it should.
>
> --
> Martin
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 04:55:06 -0400
> From: Steve Spicklemire <st...@sp...>
> Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] Mac installation question.
> To: Bruce Sherwood <bas...@nc...>
> Cc: vpusers <vis...@li...>
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> Possible clue...  on my PPC running Leopard (10.5.8) I see:
>
> $ otool -vT /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib | grep memcpy
> single module    ___memcpy_chk
> single module    _memcpy
> single module    _wmemcpy
>
> on my intel, running Snow Leopard
>
> $ otool -vT /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib:
> Table of contents (0 entries)
> module name      symbol name
>
> So... that's interesting. Having said that I installed v5.32/py2.7 and it
> works correctly on my Snow Leopard intel system... so the numpy that's
> installed with visual doesn't seem to link to the missing symbol.
>
> Gary... did anything else get installed besides visual/py2.7 ? Maybe a
> different version of numpy?
>
> This might also be useful:
>
> IntelMini:~ steve$ python -v -c 'import numpy' 2>&1  | grep multiarray
> dlopen("/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/multiarray.so",
> 2);
> import numpy.core.multiarray # dynamically loaded from
> /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/multiarray.so
> # cleanup[2] numpy.core.multiarray
> IntelMini:~ steve$
>
> -steve
>
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Bruce Sherwood wrote:
>
> > It's not a problem of not finding packages, since when you import
> > numpy you find numpy. The problem is that numpy can't find a resource
> > it needs.
> >
> > I don't know what could be set up oddly on these Macs, but the trace
> > claims that ___memcpy_chk should be found in
> > /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib. So the first thing to do is to verify that
> > indeed this file is missing (or damaged?). Is it?
> >
> > Note that to see /usr/lib in the Finder you need to use the Finder
> > menu Go > Go to Folder.
> >
> > Bruce Sherwood
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Gary Pajer <gar...@gm...> wrote:
> >> Our IT dept. just installed vpython on the 'clean' Macs in our lab.
>  AFAIK,
> >> they followed the instructions on vpython.org.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, python can't find packages.  numpy and visual are
> installed
> >> in the "Frameworks" site-packages directory, but they are not found on
> >> import.
> >>
> >> One problem is that PATH is not set properly.  which python ==>
> >> /usr/bin/python
> >>
> >> But if I launch python using the entire path to the executable, then
> import
> >> numpy, I get the attached traceback.
> >>
> >> Anyone know what the missing link is?
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> gary
> >>
> >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>>>> import numpy
> >> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
> >>   File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.
> >> framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py",
> line
> >> 136, in <module>
> >>     import add_newdocs
> >>   File
> >>
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/add_newdocs.py",
> >> line 9, in <module>
> >>     from numpy.lib import add_newdoc
> >>   File
> >>
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/lib/__init__.py",
> >> line 4, in <module>
> >>     from type_check import *
> >>   File
> >>
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/lib/type_check.py",
> >> line 8, in <module>
> >>     import numpy.core.numeric as _nx
> >>   File
> >>
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/__init__.py",
> >> line 5, in <module>
> >>     import multiarray
> >> ImportError:
> >>
> dlopen(/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/multiarray.so,
> >> 2): Symbol not found: ___memcpy_chk
> >>   Referenced from:
> >>
> /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/multiarray.so
> >>   Expected in: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:25:55 +0200
> From: Martin Costabel <cos...@wa...>
> Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] Mac installation question.
> To: Steve Spicklemire <st...@sp...>
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> On 9/09/10 10:55, Steve Spicklemire wrote:
> >
> > Possible clue...  on my PPC running Leopard (10.5.8) I see:
> >
> > $ otool -vT /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib | grep memcpy
> > single module    ___memcpy_chk
> > single module    _memcpy
> > single module    _wmemcpy
> >
> > on my intel, running Snow Leopard
> >
> > $ otool -vT /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
> > /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib:
> > Table of contents (0 entries)
> > module name      symbol name
>
> It seems that otool -T behaves in an "unexpected" way on Snow Leopard
> (AKA "doesn't work"). If you use nm instead, it shows you the same thing
> for ___memcpy as on Leopard.
>
> > So... that's interesting. Having said that I installed v5.32/py2.7 and it
> works correctly on my Snow Leopard intel system... so the numpy that's
> installed with visual doesn't seem to link to the missing symbol.
>
> It does link:
>
> costabel% nm -m multiarray.so | grep memcpy_chk
>       (undefined [lazy bound]) external ___memcpy_chk (from libSystem)
>
> This is on Snow Leopard. If I try the same command with the same file on
> Leopard, I get
>
> nm: for architecture i386 object: core/multiarray.so malformed object
> (unknown load command 4).
>
> Load command 4 is LC_DYLD_INFO_ONLY, which was introduced with MacOSX
> 10.6. This means that this binary doesn't even work correctly on MacOSX
> 10.5, although it is rather "fat":
>
> % file  core/multiarray.so
> core/multiarray.so: Mach-O universal binary with 3 architectures
> core/multiarray.so (for architecture i386):     Mach-O bundle i386
> core/multiarray.so (for architecture ppc7400):  Mach-O bundle ppc
> core/multiarray.so (for architecture x86_64):   Mach-O 64-bit bundle x86_64
>
> Whoever built this version of numpy might want to rebuild it with the
> 10.4 SDK.
>
> --
> Martin
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:02:21 -0600
> From: Bruce Sherwood <bas...@nc...>
> Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] Mac installation question.
> To: vpusers <vis...@li...>
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>
> Sigh. I innocently simply used the numpy Mac installer. Is the short
> statement that at least for now the vpython.org Mac download page
> should say that the VPython installer is for 10.5 and higher?
>
> Bruce
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Martin Costabel <cos...@wa...>
> wrote:
> > On 9/09/10 10:55, Steve Spicklemire wrote:
> >>
> >> Possible clue... ?on my PPC running Leopard (10.5.8) I see:
> >>
> >> $ otool -vT /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib | grep memcpy
> >> single module ? ?___memcpy_chk
> >> single module ? ?_memcpy
> >> single module ? ?_wmemcpy
> >>
> >> on my intel, running Snow Leopard
> >>
> >> $ otool -vT /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
> >> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib:
> >> Table of contents (0 entries)
> >> module name ? ? ?symbol name
> >
> > It seems that otool -T behaves in an "unexpected" way on Snow Leopard
> (AKA
> > "doesn't work"). If you use nm instead, it shows you the same thing for
> > ___memcpy as on Leopard.
> >
> >> So... that's interesting. Having said that I installed v5.32/py2.7 and
> it
> >> works correctly on my Snow Leopard intel system... so the numpy that's
> >> installed with visual doesn't seem to link to the missing symbol.
> >
> > It does link:
> >
> > costabel% nm -m multiarray.so | grep memcpy_chk
> > ? ? ?(undefined [lazy bound]) external ___memcpy_chk (from libSystem)
> >
> > This is on Snow Leopard. If I try the same command with the same file on
> > Leopard, I get
> >
> > nm: for architecture i386 object: core/multiarray.so malformed object
> > (unknown load command 4).
> >
> > Load command 4 is LC_DYLD_INFO_ONLY, which was introduced with MacOSX
> 10.6.
> > This means that this binary doesn't even work correctly on MacOSX 10.5,
> > although it is rather "fat":
> >
> > % file ?core/multiarray.so
> > core/multiarray.so: Mach-O universal binary with 3 architectures
> > core/multiarray.so (for architecture i386): ? ? Mach-O bundle i386
> > core/multiarray.so (for architecture ppc7400): ?Mach-O bundle ppc
> > core/multiarray.so (for architecture x86_64): ? Mach-O 64-bit bundle
> x86_64
> >
> > Whoever built this version of numpy might want to rebuild it with the
> 10.4
> > SDK.
> >
> > --
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:36:11 -0600
> From: Bruce Sherwood <bas...@nc...>
> Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] Mac installation question.
> To: vpusers <vis...@li...>
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>
> Further comment: I've been careful to use the 10.4 c++ compiler on the
> Mac, and in PackageMaker to specify OSX >= 10.4. Alas, it must be that
> the latest numpy installer isn't built that way, and I didn't think of
> that potential problem. I'm going to change the note on vpython.org to
> say "10.5 or 10.6", and suggest people use an older version if they're
> running 10.4.
>
> I can't help observing that Python and Visual work fine across a very
> long time period of Windows versions, from XP, or even before, through
> Windows 7. But there are all sorts of little glitches in Mac OSX
> releases that make it necessary to pay close attention to the specific
> release.
>
> Also, for everyone's information, there still isn't a numpy installer
> for Python 3.1 on the Mac, and I was unable to build numpy from source
> (I found some notes on the web about others having this problem, too).
>
> Bruce
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Bruce Sherwood <bas...@nc...> wrote:
> > Sigh. I innocently simply used the numpy Mac installer. Is the short
> > statement that at least for now the vpython.org Mac download page
> > should say that the VPython installer is for 10.5 and higher?
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Martin Costabel <cos...@wa...>
> wrote:
> >> On 9/09/10 10:55, Steve Spicklemire wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Possible clue... ?on my PPC running Leopard (10.5.8) I see:
> >>>
> >>> $ otool -vT /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib | grep memcpy
> >>> single module ? ?___memcpy_chk
> >>> single module ? ?_memcpy
> >>> single module ? ?_wmemcpy
> >>>
> >>> on my intel, running Snow Leopard
> >>>
> >>> $ otool -vT /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
> >>> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib:
> >>> Table of contents (0 entries)
> >>> module name ? ? ?symbol name
> >>
> >> It seems that otool -T behaves in an "unexpected" way on Snow Leopard
> (AKA
> >> "doesn't work"). If you use nm instead, it shows you the same thing for
> >> ___memcpy as on Leopard.
> >>
> >>> So... that's interesting. Having said that I installed v5.32/py2.7 and
> it
> >>> works correctly on my Snow Leopard intel system... so the numpy that's
> >>> installed with visual doesn't seem to link to the missing symbol.
> >>
> >> It does link:
> >>
> >> costabel% nm -m multiarray.so | grep memcpy_chk
> >> ? ? ?(undefined [lazy bound]) external ___memcpy_chk (from libSystem)
> >>
> >> This is on Snow Leopard. If I try the same command with the same file on
> >> Leopard, I get
> >>
> >> nm: for architecture i386 object: core/multiarray.so malformed object
> >> (unknown load command 4).
> >>
> >> Load command 4 is LC_DYLD_INFO_ONLY, which was introduced with MacOSX
> 10.6.
> >> This means that this binary doesn't even work correctly on MacOSX 10.5,
> >> although it is rather "fat":
> >>
> >> % file ?core/multiarray.so
> >> core/multiarray.so: Mach-O universal binary with 3 architectures
> >> core/multiarray.so (for architecture i386): ? ? Mach-O bundle i386
> >> core/multiarray.so (for architecture ppc7400): ?Mach-O bundle ppc
> >> core/multiarray.so (for architecture x86_64): ? Mach-O 64-bit bundle
> x86_64
> >>
> >> Whoever built this version of numpy might want to rebuild it with the
> 10.4
> >> SDK.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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