VeroRoute Activity
Qt based Veroboard, Perfboard, and PCB layout and routing application
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VeroRoute released /veroroute-2.39-phone.apk
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Alex Lawrow posted a comment on discussion General Discussion
Mainly a bunch of minor bug fixes with this release, Bug fix: Mono mode with colored tracks showed grey track colors when Fill level was not zero. Fill level should have been ignored in Mono mode. Bug fix: Shapes of zero size should never be rendered (so their PDF export works like Gerber export). Previously PDF export would render a dot for a zero size shape. Bug fix: Component Name/Value text size was wrong when doing PDF export in Mono mode. Bug fix: Vero labels should use same font as components...
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V2.39 Mark up
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Ibanez Tube Screamer TS808 This is suitable for a true bypass build (i.e. none of the JFET switching circuitry is included). Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. Note that although net 1 is listed as "broken" it is not broken in practice, since all points for that net are connected through the ground pours on both layers.
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ZVEX Woolly Mammoth Fuzz Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board.
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Ibanez Tube Screamer TS808 This is suitable for a true bypass build (i.e. none of the JFET switching circuitry is included). Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. Note that although net 1 is listed as "broken" it is not broken in practice, since all points for that net are connected through the ground pours on both layers.
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Ibanez Tubescreamer TS808 This is suitable for a true bypass build (i.e. none of the JFET switching circuitry is included). Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. Note that although net 1 is listed as "broken" it is not broken in practice, since all points for that net are connected through the ground pours on both layers.
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Ibanez Tubescreamer TS808 This is suitable for a true bypass build (i.e. none of the JFET switching circuitry is included). Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. Note that although net 1 is listed as "broken" it is not broken in practice, since all points for that net are connected through the ground pours on both layers.
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The circuit above has three 500pF capacitors that may be hard to source. So here is an alternative PCB layout that constructs these 500pF values using a pair of 1nF capacitors in series.
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The circuit above has three 500pF capacitors that may be hard to source. So here is an alternative PCB layout that constructs these 500pF values using a pair of 1nF capacitors in series.
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EHX Big Muff Pi (Civil War / Tall Font Green Russian) Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. Link to circuit information: http://www.bigmuffpage.com/Big_Muff_Pi_versions_schematics_part3.html
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EHX Big Muff Pi (Civil War / Tall Font Green Russian) Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. Link to circuit information: http://www.bigmuffpage.com/Big_Muff_Pi_versions_schematics_part3.html
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This is an excellent compressor designed by ValveWizard (aka Merlin). Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. After loading the VRT file, see circuit notes in the Info window (Windows->Info).
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This is an excellent compressor designed by ValveWizard (aka Merlin). Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. After loading the VRT file, see circuit notes in the Info window (Windows->Info).
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This is an excellent compressor designed by ValveWizard (aka Merlin). Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. After loading the VRT file, see circuit notes in the Info window (Windows->Info).
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This is an excellent compressor designed by ValveWizard (aka Merlin). Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. After loading the VRT file, see circuit notes in the Info window (Windows->Info).
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Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board.
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Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board.
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Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board.
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Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. After loading the VRT file, see circuit notes in the Info window (Windows->Info).
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This is an excellent compressor designed by ValveWizard (aka Merlin). Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. After loading the VRT file, see circuit notes in the Info window (Windows->Info).
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Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. After loading the VRT file, see circuit notes in the Info window (Windows->Info).
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This is an excellent compressor designed by ValveWizard (aka Merlin). Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. After loading the VRT file, see circuit notes in the Info window (Windows->Info).
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Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board. After loading the VRT file, see circuit notes in the Info window (Windows->Info).
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Just export to Gerber files. Then zip them and mail to your PCB maker. I use JLCPCB. The board mounted pots will have their bodies under the board.
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New feature: Allow tracks to be displayed in color when in Mono mode. There is a new menu "View->Enable Track Colors in Mono mode". It works with both normal/inverse Mono mode. I added this option because the existing Color mode for displaying tracks does not handle the display of ground-fills (unlike the Mono and PCB modes). This new option bridges that gap. The ground fill is still shown in black or white (depending on whether you have Inverse Mono mode disabled/enabled) but the tracks can now...
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V2.38 Mark up
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Allow colored tracks in Mono mode
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Cosmetic change: Draw components using PCB style when in Mono mode. Bug fix: In PCB mode, the GUI could select and move text boxes, even though they are not displayed in that mode. Improvement: No longer double-click to modify pin layer preference for 2-layer PCBs. Double-clicking was a tedious way of handling that functionality and was especially messy on an Android tablet. Instead, there is a new toolbar button that can be selected in PCB mode, that allows pin layer preferences to be changed using...
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V2.37 Mark up
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Make order of toggling pin layer preferences depend on displayed layer. Added algorithm to auto-set pin layer preferences. Updated Tutorial 21
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Fixes to previous check-ins. Move/resize of text boxes must be disabled while in PCB mode.
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Draw components using PCB style when in Mono mode
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No longer double click to change pin layer preference. Instead have a toolbar button that allows pin layer preference to toggle with a single click. Updated Tutorial 21.
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The routing algorithm will not overwrite any thing that you manually paint. So if you want to stop any sort of routing to those drilled out squares, just manually paint them with an unused netlist value. i.e. First double-click on blank area so that no tracks are highlighted in grey. Then hold down SPACE bar and paint those drilled out squares. They will be given a unique netlist ID (different to all the pins).
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boardmaker posted a comment on discussion General Discussion
Pending track cuts are highlighted by changes in color of track with a white space between the colors. Fair enough. Now I looking for a way to mark the cut as being done ... and a dead end to the autorouter. DIPs always need track cuts which I do with a 5/32 drill bit. I don't cut between the holes. BTW, there is much to like in VeroRouter. Two thumbs up!
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Moved painter.save() location to earlier point when drawing text boxes
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I don't have a problem with that VRT on my Linux build of VeroRoute. See the attached image, showing that I have the PDF and the application showing same text with same relative size to the track. However, if I load that VRT on an Android version of VeroRoute the application draws the text smaller size than the PDF. In other words, the PDFs produced by Linux version of VeroRoute and Android version of VeroRoute both agree with each other, and they both agree with the screen image on the Linux VeroRoute...
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Harshana Ranmuthu modified a comment on discussion Reporting Bugs/Crashes
Attaching a test file.
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Attaching a test file. Here the problem is not so prominent. But it is there.
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Actually I cannot reproduce the problem. Can you send me a VRT file that demonstrates the problem ?
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Looks like a bug in the Qt library that produces PDF.
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What we see on Mono mode is different from the PDF export. Using version v2.36. Please see the comparison on the attached jpg. Text alignment and text size is different.
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Jon McLin modified a comment on discussion General Discussion
Somehow I missed that tutorial. Thanks. And look at the bright side: I learned to do it by discovery! :)
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Somehow I missed that tutorial. Thanks. And look at the bright side: I learned out to do it by discovery! :)
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I must have scrolled right past that tutorial. Thanks.
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Figured it out. For future reference: - netlists are created/edited solely using mouse and keyboard. There is no associated menu or dialog box. - See the "key/mouse" actions under the help menu for the specific keys/buttons combinations. - "P" will paint/unpaint a pin (on a device/wire) for the currently-selected net. If no net is selected, it will create a new one. - <space> will paint/unpaint a track (or track segment) - if a net is selected, pins and any track will be black. - non-selected nets...
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Run through tutorial 14
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I found an additional outside forum post (from 2018) describing entering the netlist with slightly more detail. And I've actually been able to start a (single) net. However, every additional pin or trace I paint attaches to that first net, so I've not been able to create additional nets. I did go through the tutorial again. The ability to edit nets is described in Tutorials 9 and 10, but only in the context of changing existing nets, not creating them. I don't see any reference to nets prior to tutorial...
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I came across VeroRoute on another forum, and it looks to be extremely useful for prototyping. The posts in the other forum stated that in addition to importing netlists, they could be created within VeroRoute graphically. I created small multivibrator layout to test it, but I have not been able to figure out how to tie the components together. I've not found mention of this feature anywhere other than that forum. Does such a capability actually exist?
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The coding is not at all straightforward as there's custom to code for routing, hole sharing, track rendering, and outline rendering. You can search the whole code base for "SOIC" and you'll see it scattered all over the place. Basically this is something I would have to code. It's not just the footprint pattern that matters. It's all the details needed to make sure routing and interaction with other parts works properly. What footprint do you think would be of most use. 0805 ?
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Amt modified a comment on discussion General Discussion
That makes a lot of sense, actually! I suppose the only advantage for the 805 parts is with marking their presence in the layout. At the moment, I just solder them on the final board without mentioning anywhere. On the actual board, there is some space savings because the SMT part can be inserted between the 2.54x2.54 mm grid. I'll try to help you add them and push the changes back. Let me see how the footprints are encoded.
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That makes a lot of sense, actually! I suppose the only advantage for the 805 parts is with marking their presence in the layout. At the moment, I just solder them on the final board without mentioning anywhere. I'll try to help you add them and push the changes back. Let me see how the footprints are encoded.
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Could look into it but I dont have time for VeroRoute development at the moment. Problem is that each part needs be hard-coded. So i would prioritise parts that are going to be useful. 7805 resistors would end up taking the same amount of space as a regular resistor though due to the need to run tracks to virtual pins that lie on grid squares. So not sure how much use that is.
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I like how currently SOIC chips can be added into VeroRoute. Are there any plans to add support for more of the simple SMT footprints? (TSSOP, QFP, 0805, SMA etc). This would make the tool even more useful. Thanks in advance!
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I'll look into it if I have time, but will probably not be changing anything soon. I always export BOM info to tab separated text file, and then import that into Excel, or OpenOffice Calc.
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No. You dont get any choice of how flying wires are drawn (except to hide them). It simply daisy-chains all flying wire pads with the same netlist ID.
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Dear team, Is there a way to get flying wire pads connected as pairs? Pls see the attached image. I want J1 pads to connect with each other and J2 to connect with each other. Is there way (or can we have a way) to force this manually. I don't want to use wires as they are difficult to use as they automatically get attached to traces. Thanks, Harshana
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Dear Alex, Can you make the BOM window resizable? I have space on my screen, but can't get it to list all components in one screen (to take a photo) as window is fixed. Thanks, Harshana
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Regarding the example in the LargePads.vrt. Something that you might consider it so to offset the pads. You can only do this when the part is placed. If you press and hold down the left mouse button for 1 second on any grid-point that has a pad, then when you release the button it will launch a small dialog where you can apply offsets (up to 1/2 a grid square) to that pad. If you offset all pads on a component by the exact same amount, then the whole compnent (outline as well) gets offset by that...
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Regarding the example in the LargePads.vrt. Something that you might consider it so to offset the pads. You can only do this when the part is placed. If you press and hold down the left mouse button for 1 second on any grid-point that has a pad, then it will launch a small dialog where you can apply offsets (up to 1/2 a grid square) to that pad. If you offset all pads on a component by the exact same amount, then the whole compnent (outline as well) gets offset by that amount. This is something that...
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Regarding the example in the LargePads.vrt. Something that you might consider it so to offset the pads. You can only do this when the part is placed. If you press and hold down the left mouse button for 1 second on any grid-point that has a pad, then it will launch a small dialog where you can apply offsets (up to 1/2 a grid square) to that pad. If you offset all pads on a component by the exact same amount, then the whole compnent (outline as well) gets offset by that amount.
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Regarding the example in the LargePads.vrt. Something that you might consider it so to offset the pads. You can only do this when the part is placed. If you press and hold down the left mouse button for 1 second on any grid-point that has a pad, then it will launch a small dialog where you can apply offsets (up to 1/2 a grid square) to that pad. If you offset all pads on a component by the exact same amount, then the whole compnent (outline as well) gets offset by that amount.
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All pads on a component have to be the same size. To set a custom pad size for the component in the component editor, tick the Custom box and it will show controls for the pad and hole size.
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Hi Alex, Is it possible for me to create a custom component with Large pad ? Actually I can but I can't create a pad in the center of the component. Thanks, Harshana
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Not possible I'm afraid. The routing algorithm is a simple grid router and cannot account for track or pad sizes. It relies on having a 0.1 inch grid with all pads/tracks restricted to lie within a grid square. (i.e maximum pad size of 100mil diameter). If you are going to use pads that are larger than a grid square (100mil diameter) them you need to manually route things in the area near those pads.
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Dear all, When I create large pads for larger wires (130/80), Auto router does not do a good job staying away from pad copper. I've attached a sample vrt file. I'm testing this in v2.35 Please provide a fix for this. Thank you, Harshana
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Improvement: Automatically force text-box text to black (or white) when in Mono mode, with consideration to how ground-fill/inverse-mono is being used
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Removed bad 'bug fix'. Original behavior was correct. Text boxes in Mono mode should be mirrored only on the bottom layer.
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