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Re: [uml-user] Detail with one config warning

[Richard W. <ri...@no...>]

Am 23.11.2015 um 21:48 schrieb Balaco Baco:
> Please be clearer.
> 
> You said "you can also use the Internet". But after that you repeat "As
> I wrote ICMP is not supported on SLIRP." So what do I have here? What
> are the practical ways to use the Internet within UML machine? The
> things want to do is to download packages, open websites, and other
> common Internet uses from most computers.

Please read on ICMP. You don't need it to view porn.
TCP is what you need. :-)

Thanks,
//richard

Re: [uml-user] Detail with one config warning

[Balaco B. <bal...@im...>]

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 17:50, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Am 23.11.2015 um 21:48 schrieb Balaco Baco:
> > Please be clearer.
> > 
> > You said "you can also use the Internet". But after that you repeat "As
> > I wrote ICMP is not supported on SLIRP." So what do I have here? What
> > are the practical ways to use the Internet within UML machine? The
> > things want to do is to download packages, open websites, and other
> > common Internet uses from most computers.
> 
> Please read on ICMP. You don't need it to view porn.
> TCP is what you need. :-)
> 

:-/

I really don't understand why you insist on repeating what I already
showed that does not help me. I need more details.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Control_Message_Protocol

So? What can I do with it? Can you make a drawing, please?


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Re: [uml-user] Detail with one config warning

[Richard W. <ri...@no...>]

Am 23.11.2015 um 21:55 schrieb Balaco Baco:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 17:50, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> Am 23.11.2015 um 21:48 schrieb Balaco Baco:
>>> Please be clearer.
>>>
>>> You said "you can also use the Internet". But after that you repeat "As
>>> I wrote ICMP is not supported on SLIRP." So what do I have here? What
>>> are the practical ways to use the Internet within UML machine? The
>>> things want to do is to download packages, open websites, and other
>>> common Internet uses from most computers.
>>
>> Please read on ICMP. You don't need it to view porn.
>> TCP is what you need. :-)
>>
> 
> :-/
> 
> I really don't understand why you insist on repeating what I already
> showed that does not help me. I need more details.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Control_Message_Protocol
> 
> So? What can I do with it? Can you make a drawing, please?

Did you read the article?

It will tell you that ping is using it. So, no ping for you.
But as TCP and UDP are fully supported the web will work.

Thanks,
//richard

Re: [uml-user] Detail with one config warning

[Balaco B. <bal...@im...>]

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 17:57, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Am 23.11.2015 um 21:55 schrieb Balaco Baco:
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 17:50, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> >> Am 23.11.2015 um 21:48 schrieb Balaco Baco:
> >>> Please be clearer.
> >>>
> >>> You said "you can also use the Internet". But after that you repeat "As
> >>> I wrote ICMP is not supported on SLIRP." So what do I have here? What
> >>> are the practical ways to use the Internet within UML machine? The
> >>> things want to do is to download packages, open websites, and other
> >>> common Internet uses from most computers.
> >>
> >> Please read on ICMP. You don't need it to view porn.
> >> TCP is what you need. :-)
> >>
> > 
> > :-/
> > 
> > I really don't understand why you insist on repeating what I already
> > showed that does not help me. I need more details.
> > 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Control_Message_Protocol
> > 
> > So? What can I do with it? Can you make a drawing, please?
> 
> Did you read the article?
> 
> It will tell you that ping is using it. So, no ping for you.
> But as TCP and UDP are fully supported the web will work.
> 

I skimmed though it. To use ping to test if Internet connections are
working or not is one the most basic things everybody does and learn.
If, in some exotic setup (like UML's) makes this different, it should
say so, clearly (and not "indirectly obvious"). There are more than 15
years I have done and seen ping being used to test connections.

... now I must do this! I'm barely believing it... BRB... - if it does
not work only! :P hahaha


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Re: [uml-user] Detail with one config warning

[Richard W. <ri...@no...>]

Am 23.11.2015 um 22:31 schrieb Balaco Baco:
> I skimmed though it. To use ping to test if Internet connections are
> working or not is one the most basic things everybody does and learn.
> If, in some exotic setup (like UML's) makes this different, it should
> say so, clearly (and not "indirectly obvious"). There are more than 15
> years I have done and seen ping being used to test connections.
> 
> ... now I must do this! I'm barely believing it... BRB... - if it does
> not work only! :P hahaha
> 

Again, this has 0 to do with UML, with qemu's user networking, which is based
on SLIRP, it is the same...

Thanks,
//richard

Re: [uml-user] Detail with one config warning

[Balaco B. <bal...@im...>]

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 18:32, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Am 23.11.2015 um 22:31 schrieb Balaco Baco:
> > I skimmed though it. To use ping to test if Internet connections are
> > working or not is one the most basic things everybody does and learn.
> > If, in some exotic setup (like UML's) makes this different, it should
> > say so, clearly (and not "indirectly obvious"). There are more than 15
> > years I have done and seen ping being used to test connections.
> > 
> > ... now I must do this! I'm barely believing it... BRB... - if it does
> > not work only! :P hahaha
> > 
> 
> Again, this has 0 to do with UML, with qemu's user networking, which is
> based
> on SLIRP, it is the same...

I don't understand these things much more than knowing their names and
what it does.

(...)

:(

Believe it or not, It still does not work: 

==============
$ apt-get download vim
Err Downloading vim 2:7.3.547-7     
  Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.fr.debian.org'
==============

And /etc/resolv.conf has the same contents of the host's file.

The command ifconfig gives:
====================
$ ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Serial Line IP  
          inet addr:10.0.2.15  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:125 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:256 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:10296 (10.0 KiB)
          Interrupt:5 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
          RX packets:26 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:26 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:2004 (1.9 KiB)  TX bytes:2004 (1.9 KiB)
====================

Makeing a wget with IPs (I copied manually) also don't work:

=======================
$  wget ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
--2015-11-23 22:10:02-- 
ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
           => `bison-1.25.tar.gz'
Connecting to 208.118.235.20:21... failed: Connection timed out.
Retrying.

--2015-11-23 22:12:11-- 
ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
  (try: 2) => `bison-1.25.tar.gz'
Connecting to 208.118.235.20:21... 

# Minutes pass without any better output. The file is just 280KiB, it
could have
# been downloaded with a dial up connection (so the slowness of Slirp
surely is
# not the case here).
=======================

I don't know what else would be useful for you. I would try SSH but it's
not installed now in the my Debian.

How can I make DNS work, then?


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Re: [uml-user] Detail with one config warning

[Balaco B. <bal...@im...>]

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 19:15, Balaco Baco wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 18:32, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> > Am 23.11.2015 um 22:31 schrieb Balaco Baco:
> > > I skimmed though it. To use ping to test if Internet connections are
> > > working or not is one the most basic things everybody does and learn.
> > > If, in some exotic setup (like UML's) makes this different, it should
> > > say so, clearly (and not "indirectly obvious"). There are more than 15
> > > years I have done and seen ping being used to test connections.
> > > 
> > > ... now I must do this! I'm barely believing it... BRB... - if it does
> > > not work only! :P hahaha
> > > 
> > 
> > Again, this has 0 to do with UML, with qemu's user networking, which is
> > based
> > on SLIRP, it is the same...
> 
> I don't understand these things much more than knowing their names and
> what it does.
> 
> (...)
> 
> :(
> 
> Believe it or not, It still does not work: 
> 
> ==============
> $ apt-get download vim
> Err Downloading vim 2:7.3.547-7     
>   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.fr.debian.org'
> ==============
> 
> And /etc/resolv.conf has the same contents of the host's file.
> 
> The command ifconfig gives:
> ====================
> $ ifconfig
> eth0      Link encap:Serial Line IP  
>           inet addr:10.0.2.15  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           UP RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:125 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:256 
>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:10296 (10.0 KiB)
>           Interrupt:5 
> 
> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
>           RX packets:26 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:26 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
>           RX bytes:2004 (1.9 KiB)  TX bytes:2004 (1.9 KiB)
> ====================
> 
> Makeing a wget with IPs (I copied manually) also don't work:
> 
> =======================
> $  wget ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
> --2015-11-23 22:10:02-- 
> ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
>            => `bison-1.25.tar.gz'
> Connecting to 208.118.235.20:21... failed: Connection timed out.
> Retrying.
> 
> --2015-11-23 22:12:11-- 
> ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
>   (try: 2) => `bison-1.25.tar.gz'
> Connecting to 208.118.235.20:21... 
> 
> # Minutes pass without any better output. The file is just 280KiB, it
> could have
> # been downloaded with a dial up connection (so the slowness of Slirp
> surely is
> # not the case here).
> =======================
> 
> I don't know what else would be useful for you. I would try SSH but it's
> not installed now in the my Debian.
> 
> How can I make DNS work, then?
> 
> 

I still cannot make it run with network fully working (for programs like
apt-get, ssh, links, ...). What do I need to do now?


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Re: [uml-user] Anyone there?

[Balaco B. <bal...@im...>]

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 19:15, Balaco Baco wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 18:32, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> > Am 23.11.2015 um 22:31 schrieb Balaco Baco:
> > > I skimmed though it. To use ping to test if Internet connections are
> > > working or not is one the most basic things everybody does and learn.
> > > If, in some exotic setup (like UML's) makes this different, it should
> > > say so, clearly (and not "indirectly obvious"). There are more than 15
> > > years I have done and seen ping being used to test connections.
> > > 
> > > ... now I must do this! I'm barely believing it... BRB... - if it does
> > > not work only! :P hahaha
> > > 
> > 
> > Again, this has 0 to do with UML, with qemu's user networking, which is
> > based
> > on SLIRP, it is the same...
> 
> I don't understand these things much more than knowing their names and
> what it does.
> 
> (...)
> 
> :(
> 
> Believe it or not, It still does not work: 
> 
> ==============
> $ apt-get download vim
> Err Downloading vim 2:7.3.547-7     
>   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.fr.debian.org'
> ==============
> 
> And /etc/resolv.conf has the same contents of the host's file.
> 
> The command ifconfig gives:
> ====================
> $ ifconfig
> eth0      Link encap:Serial Line IP  
>           inet addr:10.0.2.15  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           UP RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:125 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:256 
>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:10296 (10.0 KiB)
>           Interrupt:5 
> 
> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
>           RX packets:26 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:26 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
>           RX bytes:2004 (1.9 KiB)  TX bytes:2004 (1.9 KiB)
> ====================
> 
> Makeing a wget with IPs (I copied manually) also don't work:
> 
> =======================
> $  wget ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
> --2015-11-23 22:10:02-- 
> ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
>            => `bison-1.25.tar.gz'
> Connecting to 208.118.235.20:21... failed: Connection timed out.
> Retrying.
> 
> --2015-11-23 22:12:11-- 
> ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
>   (try: 2) => `bison-1.25.tar.gz'
> Connecting to 208.118.235.20:21... 
> 
> # Minutes pass without any better output. The file is just 280KiB, it
> could have
> # been downloaded with a dial up connection (so the slowness of Slirp
> surely is
> # not the case here).
> =======================
> 
> I don't know what else would be useful for you. I would try SSH but it's
> not installed now in the my Debian (which was download from some UML related page, by the way).
> 
> How can I make DNS work, then?
> 
> 

Anyone there? I'm stopped since the last message (above here), waiting
for someone to tell me what I have missed or anything. I have no clues
on what I should do here. Please say anything.

Thank you,

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Re: [uml-user] Anyone there?

[Balaco B. <bal...@im...>]

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 19:15, Balaco Baco wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 18:32, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> > Am 23.11.2015 um 22:31 schrieb Balaco Baco:
> > > I skimmed though it. To use ping to test if Internet connections are
> > > working or not is one the most basic things everybody does and learn.
> > > If, in some exotic setup (like UML's) makes this different, it should
> > > say so, clearly (and not "indirectly obvious"). There are more than 15
> > > years I have done and seen ping being used to test connections.
> > > 
> > > ... now I must do this! I'm barely believing it... BRB... - if it does
> > > not work only! :P hahaha
> > > 
> > 
> > Again, this has 0 to do with UML, with qemu's user networking, which is
> > based
> > on SLIRP, it is the same...
> 
> I don't understand these things much more than knowing their names and
> what it does.
> 
> (...)
> 
> :(
> 
> Believe it or not, It still does not work: 
> 
> ==============
> $ apt-get download vim
> Err Downloading vim 2:7.3.547-7     
>   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.fr.debian.org'
> ==============
> 
> And /etc/resolv.conf has the same contents of the host's file.
> 
> The command ifconfig gives:
> ====================
> $ ifconfig
> eth0      Link encap:Serial Line IP  
>           inet addr:10.0.2.15  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           UP RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:125 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:256 
>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:10296 (10.0 KiB)
>           Interrupt:5 
> 
> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
>           RX packets:26 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:26 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
>           RX bytes:2004 (1.9 KiB)  TX bytes:2004 (1.9 KiB)
> ====================
> 
> Makeing a wget with IPs (I copied manually) also don't work:
> 
> =======================
> $  wget ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
> --2015-11-23 22:10:02-- 
> ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
>            => `bison-1.25.tar.gz'
> Connecting to 208.118.235.20:21... failed: Connection timed out.
> Retrying.
> 
> --2015-11-23 22:12:11-- 
> ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
>   (try: 2) => `bison-1.25.tar.gz'
> Connecting to 208.118.235.20:21... 
> 
> # Minutes pass without any better output. The file is just 280KiB, it
> could have
> # been downloaded with a dial up connection (so the slowness of Slirp
> surely is
> # not the case here).
> =======================
> 
> I don't know what else would be useful for you. I would try SSH but it's
> not installed now in the my Debian (which was download from some UML related page, by the way).
> 
> How can I make DNS work, then?
> 
> 

Anyone there? I'm stopped since the last message (above here), waiting
for someone to tell me what I have missed or anything. I have no clues
on what I should do here. Please say anything.

Thank you,

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Re: [uml-user] Anyone there?

[Balaco B. <bal...@im...>]

May someone please make any comments about my message and situation?
Richard?

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On Thu, Dec 10, 2015, at 16:45, Balaco Baco wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 19:15, Balaco Baco wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015, at 18:32, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> > > Am 23.11.2015 um 22:31 schrieb Balaco Baco:
> > > > I skimmed though it. To use ping to test if Internet connections are
> > > > working or not is one the most basic things everybody does and learn.
> > > > If, in some exotic setup (like UML's) makes this different, it should
> > > > say so, clearly (and not "indirectly obvious"). There are more than 15
> > > > years I have done and seen ping being used to test connections.
> > > > 
> > > > ... now I must do this! I'm barely believing it... BRB... - if it does
> > > > not work only! :P hahaha
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Again, this has 0 to do with UML, with qemu's user networking, which is
> > > based
> > > on SLIRP, it is the same...
> > 
> > I don't understand these things much more than knowing their names and
> > what it does.
> > 
> > (...)
> > 
> > :(
> > 
> > Believe it or not, It still does not work: 
> > 
> > ==============
> > $ apt-get download vim
> > Err Downloading vim 2:7.3.547-7     
> >   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.fr.debian.org'
> > ==============
> > 
> > And /etc/resolv.conf has the same contents of the host's file.
> > 
> > The command ifconfig gives:
> > ====================
> > $ ifconfig
> > eth0      Link encap:Serial Line IP  
> >           inet addr:10.0.2.15  Mask:255.0.0.0
> >           UP RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> >           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >           TX packets:125 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >           collisions:0 txqueuelen:256 
> >           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:10296 (10.0 KiB)
> >           Interrupt:5 
> > 
> > lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
> >           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
> >           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
> >           RX packets:26 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >           TX packets:26 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
> >           RX bytes:2004 (1.9 KiB)  TX bytes:2004 (1.9 KiB)
> > ====================
> > 
> > Makeing a wget with IPs (I copied manually) also don't work:
> > 
> > =======================
> > $  wget ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
> > --2015-11-23 22:10:02-- 
> > ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
> >            => `bison-1.25.tar.gz'
> > Connecting to 208.118.235.20:21... failed: Connection timed out.
> > Retrying.
> > 
> > --2015-11-23 22:12:11-- 
> > ftp://208.118.235.20/gnu/bison/bison-1.25.tar.gz
> >   (try: 2) => `bison-1.25.tar.gz'
> > Connecting to 208.118.235.20:21... 
> > 
> > # Minutes pass without any better output. The file is just 280KiB, it
> > could have
> > # been downloaded with a dial up connection (so the slowness of Slirp
> > surely is
> > # not the case here).
> > =======================
> > 
> > I don't know what else would be useful for you. I would try SSH but it's
> > not installed now in the my Debian (which was download from some UML related page, by the way).
> > 
> > How can I make DNS work, then?
> > 
> > 
> 
> Anyone there? I'm stopped since the last message (above here), waiting
> for someone to tell me what I have missed or anything. I have no clues
> on what I should do here. Please say anything.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> -- 
>   Balaco
> 
> 
> 
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