From: Anuradha V. <vai...@cs...> - 2002-10-09 04:24:31
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hello, i am trying to install UML and I am supposed to have tar files from somplace but I dont see any (im getting sources for rpm). the documentation didnt help in this case -- any suggestions about where I can get tarred and compressed files as opposed to simply compressed files? and Im new to all this (and I plan to hack this, what am i thinking? )so, thats my excuse. thanks -anu |
From: Jan H. <bu...@uc...> - 2002-10-09 07:14:49
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On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 11:24:27PM -0500, Anuradha Vaidyanathan wrote: > hello, > i am trying to install UML and I am supposed to have tar files > from somplace but I dont see any (im getting sources for rpm). the > documentation didnt help in this case -- any suggestions about where I can > get tarred and compressed files as opposed to simply compressed files? and > Im new to all this (and I plan to hack this, what am i thinking? )so, > thats my excuse. I got everything I needed from the download page on sourceforge. Well, I never installed a rpm and never tried to get sources for it. Actually, what are those "tarred and compressed files as opposed to simply compressed files"? Since gzip and bzip2 both compress only individual files, you either have a single file, just compressed, or several files, tarred and compressed. Complete sources include: vanilla linux kernel tree (from ftp.kernel.org). uml patch (from sourceforge). uml utilities (from sourceforge). And you of course need a root image, which is not really source. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan 'Bulb' Hudec <bu...@uc...> |
From: Jan H. <bu...@uc...> - 2002-10-09 15:46:36
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On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 10:40:50AM -0500, Anuradha Vaidyanathan wrote: > jan, i do need the sources for uml itself if i want to hack it (dont > i?) if so, the pointer (website) you have given me doesnt let me get in.. Of course you need kernel source. There is only a patch on sourceforge. Hope you noticed it's NOT a website. It's an ftp server. OOPS, sorry, the path is /pub/linux/kernel/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan 'Bulb' Hudec <bu...@uc...> |
From: David C. <da...@da...> - 2002-10-09 09:48:38
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Anuradha Vaidyanathan wrote: > hello, > i am trying to install UML and I am supposed to have tar files > from somplace but I dont see any (im getting sources for rpm). the > documentation didnt help in this case -- any suggestions about where I can > get tarred and compressed files as opposed to simply compressed files? and > Im new to all this (and I plan to hack this, what am i thinking? )so, > thats my excuse. You can get everything you need to install UML from: http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/dl-sf.html I'm not entirly sure what you mean by 'simply compressed files' - There is the main kernel patch, which is distributed as a gzip/bzip2ed diff and there are the filesystem images, which are also compressed. The only tarball I know of for UML is the uml_utilities distribution, which you will also need to obtain. If you want an RPM, you can get http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/user-mode-linux/user_mode_linux-2.4.19.5um-0.i386.rpm However, if you're wanting to hack UML, you're much better off just downloading the source code and building it by hand - I'm not sure if there is a spec file anywhere for building RPMs from it though. David -- David Coulson http://davidcoulson.net/ d...@vi... http://journal.davidcoulson.net/ |
From: Jan H. <bu...@uc...> - 2002-10-09 15:00:16
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On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 10:48:28AM +0100, David Coulson wrote: > > > Anuradha Vaidyanathan wrote: > >hello, > > i am trying to install UML and I am supposed to have tar files > >from somplace but I dont see any (im getting sources for rpm). the > >documentation didnt help in this case -- any suggestions about where I can > >get tarred and compressed files as opposed to simply compressed files? and > >Im new to all this (and I plan to hack this, what am i thinking? )so, > >thats my excuse. > > You can get everything you need to install UML from: > > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/dl-sf.html No, you need the kernel too. It's on ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/kernel/ > I'm not entirly sure what you mean by 'simply compressed files' - There > is the main kernel patch, which is distributed as a gzip/bzip2ed diff > and there are the filesystem images, which are also compressed. The only > tarball I know of for UML is the uml_utilities distribution, which you > will also need to obtain. > > If you want an RPM, you can get > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/user-mode-linux/user_mode_linux-2.4.19.5um-0.i386.rpm > > However, if you're wanting to hack UML, you're much better off just > downloading the source code and building it by hand - I'm not sure if > there is a spec file anywhere for building RPMs from it though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan 'Bulb' Hudec <bu...@uc...> |
From: David C. <da...@da...> - 2002-10-09 15:31:28
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Jan Hudec wrote: > No, you need the kernel too. It's on ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/kernel/ There are pre-compiled kernel binaries on http://user-mode-linux.sf.net/ for those who don't want to build their own. http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/user-mode-linux/linux-2.4.19-5.bz2 Is the latest. David -- David Coulson http://davidcoulson.net/ d...@vi... http://journal.davidcoulson.net/ |
From: Jan H. <bu...@uc...> - 2002-10-09 18:13:01
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On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 04:31:07PM +0100, David Coulson wrote: > Jan Hudec wrote: > >No, you need the kernel too. It's on ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/kernel/ > > There are pre-compiled kernel binaries on http://user-mode-linux.sf.net/ > for those who don't want to build their own. These are great as jail or honeypot, but sure useless if you want to hack it. > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/user-mode-linux/linux-2.4.19-5.bz2 > > Is the latest. Is really ancient... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan 'Bulb' Hudec <bu...@uc...> |
From: David C. <da...@da...> - 2002-10-09 18:15:06
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Jan Hudec wrote: > These are great as jail or honeypot, but sure useless if you want to > hack it. Indeed. > Is really ancient... 2.4.19-5um is also the latest release of UML for 2.4.19. The later patches are development. David -- David Coulson http://davidcoulson.net/ d...@vi... http://journal.davidcoulson.net/ |
From: Anuradha V. <vai...@cs...> - 2002-10-13 19:09:06
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ok, the first question i have is if there is a retard mailing list instead of this one where beginners (or totally ignoratn people can post questions and get answered).. i realize this is probably not the best place to post my questions -- the first issue i had was when i tried to compile uml and i got a series of weird errors -- turned out it was an older version of gcc that i needed.. so, i fixed that and the base kernel (2.4.19) compiles just fine. I applied the patch and kept all the configuration options the same as specified in .config (i.e, i didnt specify any of my own) and i tried to build with the patches in place.. but i get a series of weird errors which talk about undeclared variables (starting with smp_num_cpus) which are clearly defined in a header file that is included in the file it is complaining from. I played around with that variable a little bit (like redefining it within the file it was complaining it itself) but of course there are others.. and I dont want to go an redefine everything because that seems stupid. any ideas on what might be wrong? I followed the steps on the installation/compilation pages.. -anu |
From: Sapan B. <sap...@la...> - 2002-10-13 20:34:55
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Hi, I've used nearly every conceivable version of gcc to compile UML from 2.95.4 to 3.2 and have never faced any problems I'd blame on the compiler, at least not in the context of compiling UML itself. The mailing list you're looking for (not for retards, for user-related questions as opposed to development related ones) is mentioned along with other details necessary to get your UML up and running at http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net. There's a UML channel at irc.oftc.net where you're likely to find very accurate answers to all your questions. I get the feeling you're missing the ARCH=um option in make {xconfig,dep,linux} which is what usually happens if you try installing UML for the fisrt time without having read the docs:) Regards, Sapan On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 02:09:03PM -0500, Anuradha Vaidyanathan wrote: > ok, the first question i have is if there is a retard mailing list instead > of this one where beginners (or totally ignoratn people can post questions > and get answered).. i realize this is probably not the best place to post > my questions -- the first issue i had was when i tried to compile uml and > i got a series of weird errors -- turned out it was an older version of > gcc that i needed.. so, i fixed that and the base kernel (2.4.19) compiles > just fine. I applied the patch and kept all the configuration options the |
From: Oleg D. <gr...@li...> - 2002-10-14 05:30:26
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Sapan Bhatia <sap...@la...> wrote: SB> I've used nearly every conceivable version of gcc to compile UML from SB> 2.95.4 to 3.2 and have never faced any problems I'd blame on the compiler, SB> at least not in the context of compiling UML itself. In fact gcc 2.95.x (at least some of them) have problems when you compile with profiling support. Problems manifest themselves as corrupted content of input parameters for FASTCALL and similar functions (and therefore you get crashes pretty early during boot). Upgrading to gcc 3.2 helped. Though I have heard that there are exist patches to fix gcc 2.95, too. Bye, Oleg |