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[uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Mattia D. <mal...@li...>]

Hi,

Does anybody knows if there is any newer version of the tools package
(the one with tunctl, uml_mount and friends)?

I'm maintaining[1] the package in Debian and I was wondering whether the
original code is hosted somewhere.

Thanks
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mattia
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[1]: with varying degrees of consistency

Re: [uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Richard W. <ric...@gm...>]

Hi!

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Mattia Dongili <mal...@li...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody knows if there is any newer version of the tools package
> (the one with tunctl, uml_mount and friends)?
>
> I'm maintaining[1] the package in Debian and I was wondering whether the
> original code is hosted somewhere.

http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/old/dl-sf.html

There is no newer version.
Do you have a list of issues in the current utilities?

Maybe I should take this as chance to convert them to git and make
a new release.

-- 
Thanks,
//richard

Re: [uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Mattia D. <mal...@li...>]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:11:03PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Mattia Dongili <mal...@li...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anybody knows if there is any newer version of the tools package
> > (the one with tunctl, uml_mount and friends)?
> >
> > I'm maintaining[1] the package in Debian and I was wondering whether the
> > original code is hosted somewhere.
> 
> http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/old/dl-sf.html
> 
> There is no newer version.

Ha! interesting. I even have a 20070815 (and others post-2004) version
that is not on that page. I'm wondering how I got that, maybe just a
snapshot off of CVS.

> Do you have a list of issues in the current utilities?

There are some in the Debian bug tracking system, some (most?) are related to
packaging issues though[1].

> Maybe I should take this as chance to convert them to git and make
> a new release.

Well my number one wishlist item would be to change the hand rolled
makefile to something more maintainable where if I have to pass, say,
LDFLAGS, it'll get honoured by all tools.

I can certainly help with that, since I would like to do that work
anyway in order to refresh the debian package. If you want to stuff the
code in a git repository I can send patches in.

[1]:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=0;dist=unstable;ordering=normal;repeatmerged=0;src=uml-utilities

Thanks!
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mattia
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Re: [uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Richard W. <ri...@no...>]

Am 14.07.2016 um 05:08 schrieb Mattia Dongili:
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:11:03PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Mattia Dongili <mal...@li...> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does anybody knows if there is any newer version of the tools package
>>> (the one with tunctl, uml_mount and friends)?
>>>
>>> I'm maintaining[1] the package in Debian and I was wondering whether the
>>> original code is hosted somewhere.
>>
>> http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/old/dl-sf.html
>>
>> There is no newer version.
> 
> Ha! interesting. I even have a 20070815 (and others post-2004) version
> that is not on that page. I'm wondering how I got that, maybe just a
> snapshot off of CVS.

Sorry, sent you the wrong link, was late yesterday. ;)
http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/downloads.html

It matches what you have, but still old.

>> Do you have a list of issues in the current utilities?
> 
> There are some in the Debian bug tracking system, some (most?) are related to
> packaging issues though[1].
> 
>> Maybe I should take this as chance to convert them to git and make
>> a new release.
> 
> Well my number one wishlist item would be to change the hand rolled
> makefile to something more maintainable where if I have to pass, say,
> LDFLAGS, it'll get honoured by all tools.

Agreed.

> I can certainly help with that, since I would like to do that work
> anyway in order to refresh the debian package. If you want to stuff the
> code in a git repository I can send patches in.

That would be great!

Step one would be converting the CVS repo to git:
http://user-mode-linux.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/user-mode-linux/tools/

Can you do that?

Thanks,
//richard

Re: [uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Mattia D. <mal...@li...>]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:33:33AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 14.07.2016 um 05:08 schrieb Mattia Dongili:
...
> > I can certainly help with that, since I would like to do that work
> > anyway in order to refresh the debian package. If you want to stuff the
> > code in a git repository I can send patches in.
> 
> That would be great!
> 
> Step one would be converting the CVS repo to git:
> http://user-mode-linux.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/user-mode-linux/tools/
> 
> Can you do that?

Here's what I got:
https://github.com/malattiad/uml-utilities

The CVS repo on sourceforge is out of date though, it's missing a good
chunk of code. The last commit is from 2004 or so.

If you don't have the remainder of the code history I can import a
single commit with the delta to the latest tarball.

Also, I used this author conversion:
jdike=Jeff Dike <jd...@ad...>
jleu=James R. Leu <jl...@mi...>

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mattia
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Re: [uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Mattia D. <mal...@li...>]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 08:07:32AM -0700, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:33:33AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Am 14.07.2016 um 05:08 schrieb Mattia Dongili:
> ...
> > > I can certainly help with that, since I would like to do that work
> > > anyway in order to refresh the debian package. If you want to stuff the
> > > code in a git repository I can send patches in.
> > 
> > That would be great!
> > 
> > Step one would be converting the CVS repo to git:
> > http://user-mode-linux.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/user-mode-linux/tools/
> > 
> > Can you do that?
> 
> Here's what I got:
> https://github.com/malattiad/uml-utilities

This is now:
https://github.com/malattia/uml-utilities

> The CVS repo on sourceforge is out of date though, it's missing a good
> chunk of code. The last commit is from 2004 or so.
> 
> If you don't have the remainder of the code history I can import a
> single commit with the delta to the latest tarball.
> 
> Also, I used this author conversion:
> jdike=Jeff Dike <jd...@ad...>
> jleu=James R. Leu <jl...@mi...>
> 
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Re: [uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Mattia D. <mal...@li...>]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 08:17:09AM -0700, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 08:07:32AM -0700, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:33:33AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Am 14.07.2016 um 05:08 schrieb Mattia Dongili:
> > ...
> > > > I can certainly help with that, since I would like to do that work
> > > > anyway in order to refresh the debian package. If you want to stuff the
> > > > code in a git repository I can send patches in.
> > > 
> > > That would be great!
> > > 
> > > Step one would be converting the CVS repo to git:
> > > http://user-mode-linux.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/user-mode-linux/tools/
> > > 
> > > Can you do that?
> > 
> > Here's what I got:
> > https://github.com/malattiad/uml-utilities
> 
> This is now:
> https://github.com/malattia/uml-utilities
> 
> > The CVS repo on sourceforge is out of date though, it's missing a good
> > chunk of code. The last commit is from 2004 or so.
> > 
> > If you don't have the remainder of the code history I can import a
> > single commit with the delta to the latest tarball.

Ping?

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Re: [uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Richard W. <ri...@no...>]

On 28.07.2016 16:32, Mattia Dongili wrote:
>> This is now:
>> https://github.com/malattia/uml-utilities
>>
>>> The CVS repo on sourceforge is out of date though, it's missing a good
>>> chunk of code. The last commit is from 2004 or so.
>>>
>>> If you don't have the remainder of the code history I can import a
>>> single commit with the delta to the latest tarball.

Sorry for the late answer.
First of all, thanks a lot for the CVS import!
Yes, please apply the last tarball.

But let's ask Jeff first.
Jeff, do you have a more recent SCM repo of uml-utilities?

Another question is future maintenance of the utilities.
I'm more than busy with all my other projects and therefore
I'd love to have somebody else to take care of uml-utilities.
Mattia, do you volunteer? :-)

Thanks,
//richard

Re: [uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Mattia D. <mal...@li...>]

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:01:11PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> On 28.07.2016 16:32, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> >> This is now:
> >> https://github.com/malattia/uml-utilities
> >>
> >>> The CVS repo on sourceforge is out of date though, it's missing a good
> >>> chunk of code. The last commit is from 2004 or so.
> >>>
> >>> If you don't have the remainder of the code history I can import a
> >>> single commit with the delta to the latest tarball.
> 
> Sorry for the late answer.
> First of all, thanks a lot for the CVS import!
> Yes, please apply the last tarball.
> 
> But let's ask Jeff first.
> Jeff, do you have a more recent SCM repo of uml-utilities?
> 
> Another question is future maintenance of the utilities.
> I'm more than busy with all my other projects and therefore
> I'd love to have somebody else to take care of uml-utilities.
> Mattia, do you volunteer? :-)

Sure, sounds good to me.
For now I'd use this mailing list for coordination, not sure a different
one makes much sense.

The code can stay on github for now, unless someone has a different
preference.

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Re: [uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Mattia D. <mal...@li...>]

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 06:53:34AM -0700, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:01:11PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
...
> > Mattia, do you volunteer? :-)
> 
> Sure, sounds good to me.

For the record, I'll follow-up soon. I'm waiting for approval from my
employer to make sure there is no conflict with what I'm doing.
I don't think there will be any problem, but it's a formality that I
need to get through (and it's taking a bit longer than I expected...).

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Re: [uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Jeff D. <jd...@ad...>]

Hi Richard,

> But let's ask Jeff first.
> Jeff, do you have a more recent SCM repo of uml-utilities?

No, I don't believe so.  Everything I have is out there somewhere.
You might check with Matt Zimmerman - he might have been doing some
maintenance on them.

				Jeff

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Re: [uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Rob L. <ro...@la...>]

On 08/17/2016 12:02 PM, Jeff Dike wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> 
>> But let's ask Jeff first.
>> Jeff, do you have a more recent SCM repo of uml-utilities?
> 
> No, I don't believe so.  Everything I have is out there somewhere.
> You might check with Matt Zimmerman - he might have been doing some
> maintenance on them.
> 
> 				Jeff

With this reminder, I added a quick and dirty tunctl to toybox (since I
used it in http://landley.net/lxc/02-networking.html with kvm a while
back). I see busybox already has one. I'm reading the kernel tuntap
documentation file to see how to add tap support.

Is there anything else in here of general applicability to perhaps
containers? (Maybe uml_switch?)

I've wandered away from using UML because last I checked it's still
x86-only, and x86 is no longer enough of the world to justify investing
time in an architecture-specific tool. But ubuntu still says to install
this package if I want tunctl...

Rob

Re: [uml-devel] UML tools anywhere?

[Mattia D. <mal...@li...>]

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 02:35:55PM -0500, Rob Landley wrote:
> On 08/17/2016 12:02 PM, Jeff Dike wrote:
> > Hi Richard,
> > 
> >> But let's ask Jeff first.
> >> Jeff, do you have a more recent SCM repo of uml-utilities?
> > 
> > No, I don't believe so.  Everything I have is out there somewhere.
> > You might check with Matt Zimmerman - he might have been doing some
> > maintenance on them.
> > 
> > 				Jeff
> 
> With this reminder, I added a quick and dirty tunctl to toybox (since I
> used it in http://landley.net/lxc/02-networking.html with kvm a while
> back). I see busybox already has one. I'm reading the kernel tuntap
> documentation file to see how to add tap support.

I think it's just a matter of a different flag (IFF_TAP instead of
IFF_TUN) to the ioctl.

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