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hi guys,

please check ubraa wiki. may update ako. please give me n lang feedbacks.
this is just how we do.

btw, i changed the permission to private kc not final p nmn ung mga
documents and i dont want the public to see it in its raw form. so please
login muna before looking at the wiki. meron lang isang problema, it seems
pag private ang wiki, nagkakaprob sa login. when i try using firefox,
pagdating ko ng wiki, logout ako pero pagbalik sa ibang link sa ubraa,
nklogin nmn ako. may nabasa ako sa support n ok nmn ito sa IE7 so i tried it
and it worked! wl nmn resolution ang SF support dito so gnun lang muna ang
ginawa ko. just change it n lang if you want to change the wiki's
permission.

Here is the link: http://ubraa.wiki.sourceforge.net/Plan+-+Phase+1

isa pang tnong, hindi b ntin kailangan ang srili nting PMS? why not use
assembla para malaman who's doing what?

cheers,
primerg

let's just use sourforge wiki...no need to build from scratch, ubraa
project alone is enough for now.

2008/2/8 Garri Santos <gar...@ph...>:
> 2008/2/8 pinktada <pin...@gm...>:
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> > From: pinktada <pin...@gm...>
> > Date: 2008/2/8
> > Subject: Re: [Ubraa-general] Suggestion
> >  To: Garri Santos <gar...@ph...>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi primerg!
> > >
> > > I haven't really used a wiki for private communication, things might
> > > get tangled up if we use a wiki system as messaging system +
> > > writeboard + native wiki feature. When communicating we can't allow
> > > anybody on both parties to edit what they just have said, yes it's
> > > possible but isn't a bit too overhead if we are going to set it up
> > > like that?
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Garrizaldy R. Santos
> > > Ubraa Developer
> > > PHP User-Group Philippines Inc.
> > > http://www.phpugph.com
> > > gar...@ph...
> > >
> >
> >
> > Ahh.. ok cge ^__^ pero add p ntin ang wiki? gagamit b tyo ng 3rd party sa
> > wiki or create it from scratch?
> >
> > kopyahin ko n lang muna ang messages at writeboard feature ng basecamp then
> > edit nyo n lang.. ok lang? san nga pala ako pwede mag add ng notes n pwede
> > ulit i edit? sa sourceforge wiki kc publicly viewable sya eh..
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> Hi Primerg,
>
> Let's see kung may madaling iintegrate na wiki tayong makikita then
> will decide. ^^ Yeah! copy na muna na natin and place it at
> sourceforge wiki.
>
> Happy Weekends!
>
> Cheers,
> Garrizaldy R. Santos
> Ubraa Developer
> PHP User-Group Philippines Inc.
> http://www.phpugph.com
> gar...@ph...
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2008/2/8 pinktada <pin...@gm...>:
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: pinktada <pin...@gm...>
> Date: 2008/2/8
> Subject: Re: [Ubraa-general] Suggestion
>  To: Garri Santos <gar...@ph...>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Hi primerg!
> >
> > I haven't really used a wiki for private communication, things might
> > get tangled up if we use a wiki system as messaging system +
> > writeboard + native wiki feature. When communicating we can't allow
> > anybody on both parties to edit what they just have said, yes it's
> > possible but isn't a bit too overhead if we are going to set it up
> > like that?
> >
> > cheers,
> > Garrizaldy R. Santos
> > Ubraa Developer
> > PHP User-Group Philippines Inc.
> > http://www.phpugph.com
> > gar...@ph...
> >
>
>
> Ahh.. ok cge ^__^ pero add p ntin ang wiki? gagamit b tyo ng 3rd party sa
> wiki or create it from scratch?
>
> kopyahin ko n lang muna ang messages at writeboard feature ng basecamp then
> edit nyo n lang.. ok lang? san nga pala ako pwede mag add ng notes n pwede
> ulit i edit? sa sourceforge wiki kc publicly viewable sya eh..
>
> --
> petixe.com
>
>
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> petixe.com
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Hi Primerg,

Let's see kung may madaling iintegrate na wiki tayong makikita then
will decide. ^^ Yeah! copy na muna na natin and place it at
sourceforge wiki.

Happy Weekends!

Cheers,
Garrizaldy R. Santos
Ubraa Developer
PHP User-Group Philippines Inc.
http://www.phpugph.com
gar...@ph...

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From: pinktada <pin...@gm...>
Date: 2008/2/8
Subject: Re: [Ubraa-general] Suggestion
To: Garri Santos <gar...@ph...>

> Hi primerg!
>
> I haven't really used a wiki for private communication, things might
> get tangled up if we use a wiki system as messaging system +
> writeboard + native wiki feature. When communicating we can't allow
> anybody on both parties to edit what they just have said, yes it's
> possible but isn't a bit too overhead if we are going to set it up
> like that?
>
> cheers,
> Garrizaldy R. Santos
> Ubraa Developer
> PHP User-Group Philippines Inc.
> http://www.phpugph.com
> gar...@ph...
>

Ahh.. ok cge ^__^ pero add p ntin ang wiki? gagamit b tyo ng 3rd party sa
wiki or create it from scratch?

kopyahin ko n lang muna ang messages at writeboard feature ng basecamp then
edit nyo n lang.. ok lang? san nga pala ako pwede mag add ng notes n pwede
ulit i edit? sa sourceforge wiki kc publicly viewable sya eh..

-- 
petixe.com

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petixe.com

2008/2/8 pinktada <pin...@gm...>:
> Hi Garri,
>
> I think I understand ur point (or maybe not?)
>
> ang sa akin nmn, hindi b pwedeng gwin un sa isang tool or place lang? Parang
> create a place then let the users decide how they want to use it in their
> own way (creativity). If its a private to private talk, pwede nmn add
> permission sa wiki.. if its collaboration, mas ok ang wiki kc u can let
> others to publicly edit it or just allow comments. the gud thing about wiki,
> u have the history (which i think meron din nun sa basecamp, very wiki style
> tlg eh..)
>
> Hindi nmn sa against ako sa message and writeboards, i just cant find the
> essence kc sa isip ko, they have almost the same functionalities, iba iba
> lang ang way ng paggamit.
>
> maybe misleading ang term n wiki since hindi n sya wiki kpg hindi sya
> publicly editable.. ung mga suggested nga n commeting and permission doesnt
> make it a wiki n tlg..
>
> anyway those are just my ideas.. let me know why its not a good idea or
> maybe kung anong cons ang dulot nun kpg inilagay ntin lahat sa isang place
> lang..
>
> ===
> pahabol sa req ng wiki
> - add ability to delete a page
>
> Cheers,
> primerg
>
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2008 10:46 AM, Garri Santos <gar...@ph...> wrote:
>
> > Hi primerg!
> >
> > IMO Messages, writeboards and wikis should be separated. Since
> > messages are usually for person to person private talk, writeboards
> > are for collaboration, brainstorming, temporary records for ideas
> > since you can comment on a certain writeboard and wikis can contain
> > that finalize idea.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Garri
> >
>
>
>
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Hi primerg!

I haven't really used a wiki for private communication, things might
get tangled up if we use a wiki system as messaging system +
writeboard + native wiki feature. When communicating we can't allow
anybody on both parties to edit what they just have said, yes it's
possible but isn't a bit too overhead if we are going to set it up
like that?

cheers,
Garrizaldy R. Santos
Ubraa Developer
PHP User-Group Philippines Inc.
http://www.phpugph.com
gar...@ph...

Hi Garri,

I think I understand ur point (or maybe not?)

ang sa akin nmn, hindi b pwedeng gwin un sa isang tool or place lang? Parang
create a place then let the users decide how they want to use it in their
own way (creativity). If its a private to private talk, pwede nmn add
permission sa wiki.. if its collaboration, mas ok ang wiki kc u can let
others to publicly edit it or just allow comments. the gud thing about wiki,
u have the history (which i think meron din nun sa basecamp, very wiki style
tlg eh..)

Hindi nmn sa against ako sa message and writeboards, i just cant find the
essence kc sa isip ko, they have almost the same functionalities, iba iba
lang ang way ng paggamit.

maybe misleading ang term n wiki since hindi n sya wiki kpg hindi sya
publicly editable.. ung mga suggested nga n commeting and permission doesnt
make it a wiki n tlg..

anyway those are just my ideas.. let me know why its not a good idea or
maybe kung anong cons ang dulot nun kpg inilagay ntin lahat sa isang place
lang..

===
pahabol sa req ng wiki
- add ability to delete a page
Cheers,
primerg

On Feb 8, 2008 10:46 AM, Garri Santos <gar...@ph...> wrote:

> Hi primerg!
>
> IMO Messages, writeboards and wikis should be separated. Since
> messages are usually for person to person private talk, writeboards
> are for collaboration, brainstorming, temporary records for ideas
> since you can comment on a certain writeboard and wikis can contain
> that finalize idea.
>
>
> Regards,
> Garri
>

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Hi primerg!

IMO Messages, writeboards and wikis should be separated. Since
messages are usually for person to person private talk, writeboards
are for collaboration, brainstorming, temporary records for ideas
since you can comment on a certain writeboard and wikis can contain
that finalize idea.

Regards,
Garri

Check http://zoho.com/ ... :D

On Feb 8, 2008 8:56 AM, pinktada <pin...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> While reviewing the features for Ubraa, I am thinking how to simplify
> things. Sa ngayon ns communication tools pako. Instead of Messages and
> Writeboards, why not use Wikis kaya? check the ffg for the suggested
> functionality.
>    - can have the option of draft and publish (think of wordpress)
>    - can add categories and tags (dito magpla-play ung i categorize mo sya
> as Message or Writeboard)
>    - if publish, can choose who can see it and edit it. In this case, when
> PM wants to talk with other PMs, they can just set to let PMs view or
> edit it. And they can also allow per person.
>    - can enable comments. This option is displayed when you dont allow
> anyone to edit it but you want to have the opinion of others.
>    - add history. one of the important part of a wiki is the history
>    - for the textarea, copy how wordpress do it. there is an area for
> WYSWYG editor and then for advance users, they can have the html editor
>    - can upload files, magiging shortcut interface ito ng "Files Sharing"
>
>
> Sa case nmn when your writing tickets or projects, we can reuse this wiki
> (simplified) para sa textarea ng mga un. Ano sa palagay nyo?
>
>
>
> - primerg
>
>
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> petixe.com
>

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Hi,

While reviewing the features for Ubraa, I am thinking how to simplify
things. Sa ngayon ns communication tools pako. Instead of Messages and
Writeboards, why not use Wikis kaya? check the ffg for the suggested
functionality.
   - can have the option of draft and publish (think of wordpress)
   - can add categories and tags (dito magpla-play ung i categorize mo sya
as Message or Writeboard)
   - if publish, can choose who can see it and edit it. In this case, when
PM wants to talk with other PMs, they can just set to let PMs view or
edit it. And they can also allow per person.
   - can enable comments. This option is displayed when you dont allow
anyone to edit it but you want to have the opinion of others.
   - add history. one of the important part of a wiki is the history
   - for the textarea, copy how wordpress do it. there is an area for WYSWYG
editor and then for advance users, they can have the html editor
   - can upload files, magiging shortcut interface ito ng "Files Sharing"

Sa case nmn when your writing tickets or projects, we can reuse this wiki
(simplified) para sa textarea ng mga un. Ano sa palagay nyo?

- primerg

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petixe.com

Hello... andito rin yung source...

http://www.phpugph.com/ubraa/

:)

On Feb 7, 2008 3:06 AM, Garri Santos <gar...@ph...> wrote:

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