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[Tuxmath-devel] tuxmath/t4k_common patches

[LM <lm...@gm...>]

I'm reposting here in case someone's not on the tux4kids-discuss list.

I can't say that I'm finished patching yet, but I'm at a point where
I'm testing and looking for any bugs to fix.  I have tuxmath building
with SDL2.  I fixed several issues where the program crashes when one
tries to exit it.  I also fixed some memory issues.  I have SDL2_ttf
(SDL_ttf) support working (as an alternative to Cairo).  Added ability
to use nanosvg in place of rsvg if desired.  I made some modifications
for internationalization.  I'm using unistring library instead of the
old Unicode line-breaking code borrowed from gettext that was added to
t4k_common.  t4k_common build works with newer or older versions of
libpng.

Would anyone like to help test what I've modified so far?  My patches aren't in
the official tuxmath git repos, so let me know if you want to test and
I'll get you
a copy of the patches.

[Tuxmath-devel] Translation sring needs to mention the new list

[Fòram na G. <fi...@fo...>]

Should the dfollowing string be updated now?

src/menu.c:217

TuxMath version %s is free and open-source!
You can help make it better.
Suggestions, artwork, and code are all welcome!
Discuss TuxMath at tux...@li...

I recommend using an sprintf placeholder for the name of the mailing
list, so this string won't need retranslation if the list should change
again in the future.

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] [Tuxpaint-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[Luc S. <be...@gm...>]

Already had some talks with Scott with trying to get the tux4kids programs
working again under Haiku, will keep an eye open on the development! :)

Greetings,

Luc Schrijvers aka Begasus

2016-06-08 20:26 GMT+02:00 Albert Cahalan <aca...@gm...>:

> >> - "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that
> >>   use the tux- prefix.
>
> I don't see the point of tux4kids. The projects are distinct.
>
> > I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have
> > been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly
> > moving away from SF.net.  I should probably catch up and
> > participate in those :)
>
> Whatever you do, stay away from github.
>
> 1. Linus Torvalds had a great rant about it.
> 2. See also "pull requests considered harmful".
> 3. I think github is not long for this world.
>
> A couple years ago, I would have thought sf.net to be in more trouble,
> but times have changed. There was a buyout of sf.org that is helping.
> Meanwhile, there is serious management turnover and self-destruction
> at github. Don't go there. I think sf.org is fine, and CVS too. There are
> alternatives to github in case you really want to leave sf.org behind.
>
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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] [Tuxpaint-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[Albert C. <aca...@gm...>]

>> - "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that
>>   use the tux- prefix.

I don't see the point of tux4kids. The projects are distinct.

> I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have
> been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly
> moving away from SF.net.  I should probably catch up and
> participate in those :)

Whatever you do, stay away from github.

1. Linus Torvalds had a great rant about it.
2. See also "pull requests considered harmful".
3. I think github is not long for this world.

A couple years ago, I would have thought sf.net to be in more trouble,
but times have changed. There was a buyout of sf.org that is helping.
Meanwhile, there is serious management turnover and self-destruction
at github. Don't go there. I think sf.org is fine, and CVS too. There are
alternatives to github in case you really want to leave sf.org behind.

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[scottmc <sco...@gm...>]

Moving this over to tux4kids-discuss list.

We now the Tux4Kids github site up and running and have cloned most of the
repositories over to it.  We have now started adding more team members.  If
you are interested in being a team member or stepping up to be a maintainer
for any of programs, let us know.  Once we have the maintainers in place we
should be better able to handle Pull Requests and new issue reports.

We have a few of the students who applied to work with Tux4Kids for Google
Summer of Code express interest in working on their proposed projects
outside of GSoC.  We have asked them to join the tux4kids-discuss mailing
list and to ask questions here if they needed any help.

Feel free to look at their code and give them feedback.  Hopefully some of
them will post some write-ups here on their progress.

When replying to this post, please just reply to the tux4kids-discuss
mailing list.  Trying to get everyone to move this conversaion over to it.

-Scott






On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Holger Levsen <ho...@la...>
wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 11:19:12AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote:
> > Also make sure he reads tux4kids-discuss@.
>
> can we shift this thread over there, maybe? do *we* all read that list?
>
> someone please start a new thread there ;)
>
>

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Better / Complete translation to German of Tuxmath offering

[Pere P. i C. <per...@gm...>]

El dt 17 de 05 de 2016 a les 23:17 +0200, en/na Henrik Heinsch va
escriure:
> Hi to all,
> 
> I found some time to close gaps in the German translation, but now
> it's 
> time for me to check if I'm turning the right screw in the right
> direction:
> 
> 1. How can I check with my official installed Tux Math if the 
> translations are well done?

Starting from your translation, create the .mo object, this can be done
in command line with msgfmt or if you use poedit it has an option to
generate the machine readable file, other editors may have their own
options to do so.

Then locate the official installed tuxmath.mo file corresponding to
your language, in Debian, for German it is under
/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/tuxmath.mo
make a backup of it, then replace with the file you just generated and
test tuxmath with your translations.


> 
> 2. I found some english strings in Tux Math which are not contained
> in 
> the translation file! How to proceed with those things to get it 
> correctely translated to German?

What strings? What is the exact file you are translating? downloaded
from where? It will really help if you tell this, depending on the
exact file you are translating and the exact strings that are not
contained in the translation file it can be:
 
strings no more there- if the file you are translating is too new and
there have been string changes.

strings recently added- if you are translating an "old"(stable
version?) file. 

strings recently added but still not merged into the translation
files/not even marked for translation.

Please, tell us what strings and what file :)


Hope this helps

Pere

> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
> 
> Henrik Heinsch
> 
> Westerwaldstrasse 12
> 35641 Schöffengrund - Schwalbach
> 
> Tel: +496445923096
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> Mailto: hen...@on...
> 
> Am 18.04.2016 um 12:39 schrieb Holger Levsen:
> > 
> > Hi Henrik,
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 11:56:33PM +0200, Henrik Heinsch wrote:
> > > 
> > > --> Herewith I offer support in translating the textes to German,
> > > since
> > > I'm a native speaker of this language.
> > cool!
> > 
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately I have no idea how to do this, I saw the link to
> > > gettext,
> > > but I doubt whether this is the right way.
> > git clone git://git.debian.org/git/tux4kids/tuxmath.git
> > cd tuxmath
> > cd po
> > $editor de.po
> > git commit -a -m "update of German translation"
> > git format-patch -1
> > 
> > mail the generated file to this list.
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Better / Complete translation to German of Tuxmath offering

[Fòram na G. <fi...@fo...>]

There are 2 possible reasons for his:

1. The strings haven't been marked for translation yet, so they can't be
translated.

2. You need to run msgmerge

http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/msgmerge1.html



Sgrìobh Henrik Heinsch na leanas 17/05/2016 aig 22:17:
> Hi to all,
> 
> I found some time to close gaps in the German translation, but now it's 
> time for me to check if I'm turning the right screw in the right direction:
> 
> 1. How can I check with my official installed Tux Math if the 
> translations are well done?
> 
> 2. I found some english strings in Tux Math which are not contained in 
> the translation file! How to proceed with those things to get it 
> correctely translated to German?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
> 
> Henrik Heinsch
> 
> Westerwaldstrasse 12
> 35641 Schöffengrund - Schwalbach
> 
> Tel: +496445923096
> Mob: +4916090551061
> Fax: +496445612997
> 
> Mailto: hen...@on...
> 
> Am 18.04.2016 um 12:39 schrieb Holger Levsen:
>> Hi Henrik,
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 11:56:33PM +0200, Henrik Heinsch wrote:
>>> --> Herewith I offer support in translating the textes to German, since
>>> I'm a native speaker of this language.
>> cool!
>>
>>> Unfortunately I have no idea how to do this, I saw the link to gettext,
>>> but I doubt whether this is the right way.
>> git clone git://git.debian.org/git/tux4kids/tuxmath.git
>> cd tuxmath
>> cd po
>> $editor de.po
>> git commit -a -m "update of German translation"
>> git format-patch -1
>>
>> mail the generated file to this list.
>>
>>
> 
> 
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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Better / Complete translation to German of Tuxmath offering

[Henrik H. <Hen...@on...>]

Hi to all,

I found some time to close gaps in the German translation, but now it's 
time for me to check if I'm turning the right screw in the right direction:

1. How can I check with my official installed Tux Math if the 
translations are well done?

2. I found some english strings in Tux Math which are not contained in 
the translation file! How to proceed with those things to get it 
correctely translated to German?

Thanks!


Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Henrik Heinsch

Westerwaldstrasse 12
35641 Schöffengrund - Schwalbach

Tel: +496445923096
Mob: +4916090551061
Fax: +496445612997

Mailto: hen...@on...

Am 18.04.2016 um 12:39 schrieb Holger Levsen:
> Hi Henrik,
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 11:56:33PM +0200, Henrik Heinsch wrote:
>> --> Herewith I offer support in translating the textes to German, since
>> I'm a native speaker of this language.
> cool!
>
>> Unfortunately I have no idea how to do this, I saw the link to gettext,
>> but I doubt whether this is the right way.
> git clone git://git.debian.org/git/tux4kids/tuxmath.git
> cd tuxmath
> cd po
> $editor de.po
> git commit -a -m "update of German translation"
> git format-patch -1
>
> mail the generated file to this list.
>
>

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] SDL2 modifications

[Bastien G. <bz...@gn...>]

Hi Laura,

LM <lm...@gm...> writes:

> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:05 AM, Bastien Guerry <bz...@gn...> wrote:
>> Is there any public repository where we can see the changes?
>
> Not at the moment.  I dislike sharing works in progress because they
> can be buggy, not well documented and they're in a rapid state of
> flux.  Once I get to something I personally feel is stable, I'll post
> a link.

Thanks for the explanations -- it makes it even more important to
share your progress, even informally, just like you did.

> When I get to that point, I could certainly use some beta testers to
> take a look at it, especially the internationalization pieces since
> SDL 2 handles some of that very differently from SDL 1.2.x.

Looking forward to testing this!

All best,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] SDL2 modifications

[LM <lm...@gm...>]

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:05 AM, Bastien Guerry <bz...@gn...> wrote:
> Is there any public repository where we can see the changes?

Not at the moment.  I dislike sharing works in progress because they
can be buggy, not well documented and they're in a rapid state of
flux.  Once I get to something I personally feel is stable, I'll post
a link.

When I get to that point, I could certainly use some beta testers to
take a look at it, especially the internationalization pieces since
SDL 2 handles some of that very differently from SDL 1.2.x.

Sincerely,
Laura

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] SDL2 modifications

[Bastien G. <bz...@gn...>]

Hi Laura,

thanks for sharing this update.

Is there any public repository where we can see the changes?

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien

[Tuxmath-devel] SDL2 modifications

[LM <lm...@gm...>]

Thought I'd post a status report on the modifications I'm working on.
I'm making slow but steady progress on updating tuxmath to work with
SDL 2.x.  I now have both t4k_common and tuxmath building successfully
with SDL 2 libraries.  There are some differences between how SDL 2
handles things and how SDL 1.2.x does it.  So, I'm going through the
differences one at a time and trying to make the SDL 2 version work as
closely to the SDL 1.2.x functionality as I can.  I also noticed an
issue when the close button to close the window is hit to exit certain
screens.  Depending on what screen this is done from, this can cause a
crash in the application.  Will see if I can make the exit
functionality more consistent and avoid free'ing memory before
rendering is complete.  When I finally get some of these issues
cleaned up, will take a look at tuxtype and see if I can get it work
more like tuxmath (make better use of t4k_common calls).  Should be
able to add SDL 2.x support for tuxtype.

Sincerely,
Laura

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[Holger L. <ho...@la...>]

On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 11:19:12AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote:
> Also make sure he reads tux4kids-discuss@.

can we shift this thread over there, maybe? do *we* all read that list?

someone please start a new thread there ;)


-- 
cheers,
	Holger

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[Bastien G. <bz...@gn...>]

Hi Deepak,

deepak aggarwal <dee...@gm...> writes:

> I have also roped in Nalin (2013 GSOC student) as a backup maintainer
> for us.

Great -- can you give me informations about him (first name, last
name, email) so I can advertize his commitment on the website?

Also make sure he reads tux4kids-discuss@.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[Bastien G. <bz...@gn...>]

Hi Bill,

glad to read you!

Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> writes:

> I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have
> been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly
> moving away from SF.net.  I should probably catch up and
> participate in those :)

Sure, let us know how it goes.

Good luck!

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[B L. <che...@gm...>]

Hey all. I still have a clone of the TuxRacing repo but it's not up to
date. I'm not sure how it compares to what's on melange. The final commit
is from mid-July 2012.

Author: klocatelli <me...@kl...>
Date:   Thu Jul 19 20:54:31 2012 -0700
    Feedback release version

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 1:30 PM, deepak aggarwal <dee...@gm...
> wrote:

> Hi Guys
>
> I have cloned/moved most of the repos that contains new projects.
> Repos which are still missing
> 1. Tuxracing
> 2. Tux4eng
> 3. Tux4words: I have already dropped an email to Natalia so that she
> can transfer ownership to us.
>
> I have also roped in Nalin (2013 GSOC student) as a backup maintainer for
> us.
>
> @Pere : It would be great if you can email me code directly so that I can
> create a new repo for them.
>
> ᐧ
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote:
>
>>
>> Adding tuxpaint-devel list to the Cc's.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes:
>> >
>> > > why: because it focusses on tuxmath only, but we should solve this for
>> > > the bigger tux4kids project.
>> >
>> > Indeed, this was implicit in my previous email but I wasn't clear
>> > enough and I was not aware of other issues I just discovered.
>> >
>> > > I very very much applaud and thank Bastien for this initiative but I
>> > > *cannot* agree on it. Please include tuxtype and tuxpaint in it, and
>> > > quite very probably *more* tux4kids projects.
>> >
>> > My understanding was that Deepak maintains all tux4kids projects but I
>> > see now this is wrong.
>> >
>> > Deepak maintains Tuxmath only.
>> >
>> > @Deepak, is it so?
>> >
>> > > And, (long term) we need to come up with some rules / practices to
>> > > define what tux4kids is.
>> >
>> > After exploring a bit more, here is how I see it:
>> >
>> > - "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that
>> >   use the tux- prefix.
>> >
>> > - Among those softwares, there are two categories: those who are well
>> >   established and usable: Tuxmath, Tuxpaint, Tuxtype; others are more
>> >   or less stable, maintained, etc.: tuxhistory (?), Tux4ME, Tuxblocks.
>> >
>> > I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four
>> > "buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games):
>> >
>> > 1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org;
>> > 2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage;
>> > 3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage;
>> > 4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?).
>> >
>> > At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list.
>> >
>> > From here:
>> >
>> > - Tuxpaint seems to be developed rather autonomously, so I won't
>> >   suggest anything, the button would just lead to tuxpaint.org
>>
>> Correct, Tux Paint is currently maintained:
>>
>>   Website: http://tuxpaint.org/
>>
>>   Lists:
>>    * Dev discussions:
>>      * Code: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-devel
>>      * i18n: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-i18n
>>      * Art:  http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps
>>      * Docs: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-docs
>>    * User discussion:
>>      * http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users
>>    * Announcements (non-discussion):
>>      * http://tuxpaint.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tuxpaint-news
>>
>>   Files & code repo:
>>    * SF project: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/
>>    * Builds/etc: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/files/
>>    * CVS repo:   http://tuxpaint.cvs.sourceforge.net/tuxpaint/
>>
>>   Maintainers:
>>    * Me (Bill Kendrick, bi...@ne... / nb...@so...)
>>    * Others (Pere Pujal & others have been helping a lot)
>>
>> I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have
>> been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly
>> moving away from SF.net.  I should probably catch up and
>> participate in those :)
>>
>>
>> -bill!
>>
>>
>> >
>> > - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxmath/index.php can be updated,
>> >   adding Deepak as the maintainer, listing tuxmath-devel@ as the main
>> >   communication point and the github tuxmath repository as the central
>> >   place for contributing with code and bug reports.
>> >
>> > - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxtype/index.php can be cleaned
>> >   up a bit, advertizing the fact that the project is looking for a
>> >   maintainer--I assume it is.
>> >
>> > - A new page for other tux- softwares would just list them, maybe with
>> >   the name of a maintainer if there is one, deferring communication to
>> >   the github repositories.
>> >
>> > > And yes, probably we should have one mailing list (only). But this
>> list
>> > > then *must not* have "tuxmath" in it's name???!
>> >
>> > Would tux4kids-discuss@ be okay?
>> >
>> > > Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. I'm
>> > > looking forward for a modified plan! ;-)
>> >
>> > Here is one:
>> >
>> > 1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*.
>> >
>> > 2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer.
>> >
>> > 3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the
>> >    central place for discussing among developers, contributors and
>> >    users from all Tuxy- projects.
>> >
>> > 4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the Tuxmath
>> >    Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is the
>> >    central place for Tuxmath development.
>> >
>> > 4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also on
>> >    alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync on
>> >    alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories lives
>> >    on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website.
>> >
>> > 5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure.
>> >
>> > If that's OK, from there we can move forward:
>> >
>> > - Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github.
>> > - We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories.
>> > - ...
>> >
>> > Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think!
>> >
>> > Thanks again for your feedback,
>> >
>> > --
>> >  Bastien
>> >
>> >
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>> > Tux...@li...
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel
>> >
>>
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>> Sent from my computer
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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[deepak a. <dee...@gm...>]

Hi Guys

I have cloned/moved most of the repos that contains new projects.
Repos which are still missing
1. Tuxracing
2. Tux4eng
3. Tux4words: I have already dropped an email to Natalia so that she
can transfer ownership to us.

I have also roped in Nalin (2013 GSOC student) as a backup maintainer for
us.

@Pere : It would be great if you can email me code directly so that I can
create a new repo for them.

ᐧ

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote:

>
> Adding tuxpaint-devel list to the Cc's.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes:
> >
> > > why: because it focusses on tuxmath only, but we should solve this for
> > > the bigger tux4kids project.
> >
> > Indeed, this was implicit in my previous email but I wasn't clear
> > enough and I was not aware of other issues I just discovered.
> >
> > > I very very much applaud and thank Bastien for this initiative but I
> > > *cannot* agree on it. Please include tuxtype and tuxpaint in it, and
> > > quite very probably *more* tux4kids projects.
> >
> > My understanding was that Deepak maintains all tux4kids projects but I
> > see now this is wrong.
> >
> > Deepak maintains Tuxmath only.
> >
> > @Deepak, is it so?
> >
> > > And, (long term) we need to come up with some rules / practices to
> > > define what tux4kids is.
> >
> > After exploring a bit more, here is how I see it:
> >
> > - "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that
> >   use the tux- prefix.
> >
> > - Among those softwares, there are two categories: those who are well
> >   established and usable: Tuxmath, Tuxpaint, Tuxtype; others are more
> >   or less stable, maintained, etc.: tuxhistory (?), Tux4ME, Tuxblocks.
> >
> > I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four
> > "buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games):
> >
> > 1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org;
> > 2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage;
> > 3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage;
> > 4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?).
> >
> > At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list.
> >
> > From here:
> >
> > - Tuxpaint seems to be developed rather autonomously, so I won't
> >   suggest anything, the button would just lead to tuxpaint.org
>
> Correct, Tux Paint is currently maintained:
>
>   Website: http://tuxpaint.org/
>
>   Lists:
>    * Dev discussions:
>      * Code: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-devel
>      * i18n: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-i18n
>      * Art:  http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps
>      * Docs: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-docs
>    * User discussion:
>      * http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users
>    * Announcements (non-discussion):
>      * http://tuxpaint.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tuxpaint-news
>
>   Files & code repo:
>    * SF project: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/
>    * Builds/etc: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/files/
>    * CVS repo:   http://tuxpaint.cvs.sourceforge.net/tuxpaint/
>
>   Maintainers:
>    * Me (Bill Kendrick, bi...@ne... / nb...@so...)
>    * Others (Pere Pujal & others have been helping a lot)
>
> I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have
> been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly
> moving away from SF.net.  I should probably catch up and
> participate in those :)
>
>
> -bill!
>
>
> >
> > - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxmath/index.php can be updated,
> >   adding Deepak as the maintainer, listing tuxmath-devel@ as the main
> >   communication point and the github tuxmath repository as the central
> >   place for contributing with code and bug reports.
> >
> > - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxtype/index.php can be cleaned
> >   up a bit, advertizing the fact that the project is looking for a
> >   maintainer--I assume it is.
> >
> > - A new page for other tux- softwares would just list them, maybe with
> >   the name of a maintainer if there is one, deferring communication to
> >   the github repositories.
> >
> > > And yes, probably we should have one mailing list (only). But this list
> > > then *must not* have "tuxmath" in it's name???!
> >
> > Would tux4kids-discuss@ be okay?
> >
> > > Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. I'm
> > > looking forward for a modified plan! ;-)
> >
> > Here is one:
> >
> > 1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*.
> >
> > 2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer.
> >
> > 3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the
> >    central place for discussing among developers, contributors and
> >    users from all Tuxy- projects.
> >
> > 4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the Tuxmath
> >    Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is the
> >    central place for Tuxmath development.
> >
> > 4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also on
> >    alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync on
> >    alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories lives
> >    on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website.
> >
> > 5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure.
> >
> > If that's OK, from there we can move forward:
> >
> > - Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github.
> > - We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories.
> > - ...
> >
> > Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think!
> >
> > Thanks again for your feedback,
> >
> > --
> >  Bastien
> >
> >
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> Manager
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> tiers of
> > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and
> > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
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> > _______________________________________________
> > Tuxmath-devel mailing list
> > Tux...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel
> >
>
> --
> -bill!
> Sent from my computer
>
>
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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Adding tuxpaint-devel list to the Cc's.


On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes:
> 
> > why: because it focusses on tuxmath only, but we should solve this for
> > the bigger tux4kids project.
> 
> Indeed, this was implicit in my previous email but I wasn't clear
> enough and I was not aware of other issues I just discovered.
> 
> > I very very much applaud and thank Bastien for this initiative but I
> > *cannot* agree on it. Please include tuxtype and tuxpaint in it, and
> > quite very probably *more* tux4kids projects.
> 
> My understanding was that Deepak maintains all tux4kids projects but I
> see now this is wrong.
> 
> Deepak maintains Tuxmath only.
> 
> @Deepak, is it so?
> 
> > And, (long term) we need to come up with some rules / practices to
> > define what tux4kids is.
> 
> After exploring a bit more, here is how I see it:
> 
> - "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that
>   use the tux- prefix.
> 
> - Among those softwares, there are two categories: those who are well
>   established and usable: Tuxmath, Tuxpaint, Tuxtype; others are more
>   or less stable, maintained, etc.: tuxhistory (?), Tux4ME, Tuxblocks.
> 
> I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four
> "buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games):
> 
> 1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org;
> 2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage;
> 3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage;
> 4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?).
> 
> At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list.
> 
> From here:
> 
> - Tuxpaint seems to be developed rather autonomously, so I won't
>   suggest anything, the button would just lead to tuxpaint.org

Correct, Tux Paint is currently maintained:

  Website: http://tuxpaint.org/

  Lists:
   * Dev discussions:
     * Code: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-devel
     * i18n: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-i18n
     * Art:  http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps
     * Docs: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-docs
   * User discussion:
     * http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users
   * Announcements (non-discussion):
     * http://tuxpaint.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tuxpaint-news

  Files & code repo:
   * SF project: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/
   * Builds/etc: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/files/
   * CVS repo:   http://tuxpaint.cvs.sourceforge.net/tuxpaint/

  Maintainers:
   * Me (Bill Kendrick, bi...@ne... / nb...@so...)
   * Others (Pere Pujal & others have been helping a lot)

I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have
been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly
moving away from SF.net.  I should probably catch up and
participate in those :)


-bill!


> 
> - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxmath/index.php can be updated,
>   adding Deepak as the maintainer, listing tuxmath-devel@ as the main
>   communication point and the github tuxmath repository as the central
>   place for contributing with code and bug reports.
> 
> - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxtype/index.php can be cleaned
>   up a bit, advertizing the fact that the project is looking for a
>   maintainer--I assume it is.
> 
> - A new page for other tux- softwares would just list them, maybe with
>   the name of a maintainer if there is one, deferring communication to
>   the github repositories.
> 
> > And yes, probably we should have one mailing list (only). But this list
> > then *must not* have "tuxmath" in it's name???!
> 
> Would tux4kids-discuss@ be okay?
> 
> > Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. I'm
> > looking forward for a modified plan! ;-)
> 
> Here is one:
> 
> 1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*.
> 
> 2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer.
> 
> 3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the
>    central place for discussing among developers, contributors and
>    users from all Tuxy- projects.
> 
> 4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the Tuxmath
>    Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is the
>    central place for Tuxmath development.
> 
> 4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also on
>    alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync on
>    alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories lives
>    on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website.
> 
> 5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure.
>    
> If that's OK, from there we can move forward:
> 
> - Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github.
> - We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories.
> - ...
> 
> Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think!
> 
> Thanks again for your feedback,
> 
> -- 
>  Bastien
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager
> Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of
> your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and
> reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
> https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z
> _______________________________________________
> Tuxmath-devel mailing list
> Tux...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel
> 

-- 
-bill!
Sent from my computer

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[Pere P. i C. <per...@gm...>]

El dj 28 de 04 de 2016 a les 15:03 +0200, en/na Holger Levsen va
escriure:
> Hi Bastien,
> 
> thanks for this updated proposal!
> 
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote:
> > 
> > I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four
> > "buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games):
> > 
> > 1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org;
> > 2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage;
> > 3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage;
> > 4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?).
> > 

Some of the "lab" projects could play in the browser, maybe it is worth
to host too the playable ones there


> > At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list.
>  
> I like this simple setup. (I also like the name 'Tux4Kids "lab"' for
> projects which are not that advanced yet. Are we missing some, btw?
> :)

As far as I recall, starting on 2012, in plus of contributions to 
Tux Paint / Tuxmath / Tuxtype, there have been new projects every GSoC
tux4kids has participated
2012  tuxracing by Kento Locatelly, tuxmathmobile by Deepak
2013  tuxblocks by Thomas Price, tuxcoding by AbdelHakim Deneche
2015  tux4eng by Divya Nagar, tux4words by Natalia Jastrzębska, tux4me
by Vignesh Sekar

I think that's all, the sources for tuxracing used to be somewhere on
github, but I can't find them anymore there, just in case, I have a
copy downloaded directly from Melange, without any further
modifications/contributions


> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated.
> > > I'm
> > > looking forward for a modified plan! ;-)
> I like the plan…
> 
> > 
> > Here is one:
> > 
> > 1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*.
> > 
> > 2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer.
> > 
> > 3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the
> >    central place for discussing among developers, contributors and
> >    users from all Tuxy- projects.
> just we dont have this list yet… I assume I should make you admin on
> the
> alioth project, Bastien, so you can create it? (I'm happy to help
> with
> mail moderation, do "apt show listadmin" if you don't know
> listadmin.)
> 
> > 
> > 4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the
> > Tuxmath
> >    Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is
> > the
> >    central place for Tuxmath development.
> > 
> > 4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also
> > on
> >    alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync
> > on
> >    alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories
> > lives
> >    on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website.
> > 
> > 5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure.
> >    
> > If that's OK, from there we can move forward:
> > 
> > - Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github.
> > - We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories.


I'd better put a call for developers in the Readme page of each
abandonware project, with a bit of luck somebody will step in.



> > - ...
> > 
> > Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think!
> I like these kind of lists here.
>  
> > 
> > Thanks again for your feedback,
> likewise! :)
> 
> 
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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[Holger L. <ho...@la...>]

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 06:23:52PM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote:
> I was referring to this list:
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/tux4kids-discuss

right. thats perfect.
 
> are do I miss something?

no :)

-- 
cheers,
	Holger

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[Bastien G. <bz...@gn...>]

Hi Holger,

glad you seem okay with the plan :)

@Deepak, let us know what you think!

Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes:

> just we dont have this list yet…

I was referring to this list:

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/tux4kids-discuss

are do I miss something?

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[Holger L. <ho...@la...>]

Hi Bastien,

thanks for this updated proposal!

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote:
> I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four
> "buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games):
> 
> 1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org;
> 2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage;
> 3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage;
> 4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?).
> 
> At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list.
 
I like this simple setup. (I also like the name 'Tux4Kids "lab"' for
projects which are not that advanced yet. Are we missing some, btw? :)

> > Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. I'm
> > looking forward for a modified plan! ;-)

I like the plan…

> Here is one:
> 
> 1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*.
> 
> 2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer.
> 
> 3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the
>    central place for discussing among developers, contributors and
>    users from all Tuxy- projects.

just we dont have this list yet… I assume I should make you admin on the
alioth project, Bastien, so you can create it? (I'm happy to help with
mail moderation, do "apt show listadmin" if you don't know listadmin.)

> 4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the Tuxmath
>    Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is the
>    central place for Tuxmath development.
> 
> 4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also on
>    alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync on
>    alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories lives
>    on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website.
> 
> 5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure.
>    
> If that's OK, from there we can move forward:
> 
> - Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github.
> - We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories.
> - ...
> 
> Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think!

I like these kind of lists here.
 
> Thanks again for your feedback,

likewise! :)


-- 
cheers,
	Holger

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[Bastien G. <bz...@gn...>]

Hi,

Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes:

> why: because it focusses on tuxmath only, but we should solve this for
> the bigger tux4kids project.

Indeed, this was implicit in my previous email but I wasn't clear
enough and I was not aware of other issues I just discovered.

> I very very much applaud and thank Bastien for this initiative but I
> *cannot* agree on it. Please include tuxtype and tuxpaint in it, and
> quite very probably *more* tux4kids projects.

My understanding was that Deepak maintains all tux4kids projects but I
see now this is wrong.

Deepak maintains Tuxmath only.

@Deepak, is it so?

> And, (long term) we need to come up with some rules / practices to
> define what tux4kids is.

After exploring a bit more, here is how I see it:

- "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that
  use the tux- prefix.

- Among those softwares, there are two categories: those who are well
  established and usable: Tuxmath, Tuxpaint, Tuxtype; others are more
  or less stable, maintained, etc.: tuxhistory (?), Tux4ME, Tuxblocks.

I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four
"buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games):

1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org;
2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage;
3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage;
4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?).

At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list.

>From here:

- Tuxpaint seems to be developed rather autonomously, so I won't
  suggest anything, the button would just lead to tuxpaint.org

- http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxmath/index.php can be updated,
  adding Deepak as the maintainer, listing tuxmath-devel@ as the main
  communication point and the github tuxmath repository as the central
  place for contributing with code and bug reports.

- http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxtype/index.php can be cleaned
  up a bit, advertizing the fact that the project is looking for a
  maintainer--I assume it is.

- A new page for other tux- softwares would just list them, maybe with
  the name of a maintainer if there is one, deferring communication to
  the github repositories.

> And yes, probably we should have one mailing list (only). But this list
> then *must not* have "tuxmath" in it's name…!

Would tux4kids-discuss@ be okay?

> Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. I'm
> looking forward for a modified plan! ;-)

Here is one:

1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*.

2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer.

3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the
   central place for discussing among developers, contributors and
   users from all Tuxy- projects.

4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the Tuxmath
   Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is the
   central place for Tuxmath development.

4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also on
   alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync on
   alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories lives
   on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website.

5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure.
   
If that's OK, from there we can move forward:

- Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github.
- We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories.
- ...

Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think!

Thanks again for your feedback,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance (was: Tuxmath maintainance?)

[Holger L. <ho...@la...>]

Hi,

no, this is a *bad* plan, sorry.

why: because it focusses on tuxmath only, but we should solve this for
the bigger tux4kids project.

that said… please read Bastiens list again:

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:51:41AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote:
> i'm at lost (again) about what the current situation is and I
> would like to help clarify it so that we can all move forward.
> 
> Let me know if I'm right about this:
> 
> 1. David Bruce is the official current maintainer but does not
>    have the time to continue.
> 
> 2. Holger Levsen is the current Debian package manager and is
>    still okay with packaging the Tuxmath suite.
> 
> 3. Deepak has created a clone of tux4kids projects on Github and
>    is also involved in helping with the GSOC aspects.
> 
> 4. Laura has done some work on some repositories and is willing
>    to merge this work with the main project.
> 
> 5. I have write access to the alioth repositories and am willing
>    to help maintaining the website.
> 
> 6. tux...@li... is the central place for
>    communication, even if other mailing lists exist.
> 
> If we all agree on the above, that's a good starting point :)
> 
> Now for questions and decisions we need to make:
> 
> - @Deepak: are you willing to be the new maintainer?
> 
> - @Deepak: if so, do you want to use the Github repositories as
>   the main repositories (and sync the alioth ones)?
> 
> - @Laura: are you using github, alioth or other repositories?
>   What would you need to use the central repositories instead
>   of the ones you use today?
> 
> - @all: can we agree to archive all other mailing list and only
>   advertize tuxmath-devel@ ?
> 
> If Deepak is the new maintainer and the Github repositories are
> the central place for development and tuxmath-devel@ is the one
> place for communication, things can move forward like this:
> 
> - Holger sets the alioth sync.
> 
> - I update the website with these informations.
> 
> - Laura submit patches against the github repos and move her
>   development there.
> 
> Let me know how it goes.

I very very much applaud and thank Bastien for this initiative but I
*cannot* agree on it. Please include tuxtype and tuxpaint in it, and
quite very probably *more* tux4kids projects. 

And, (long term) we need to come up with some rules / practices to
define what tux4kids is.

And yes, probably we should have one mailing list (only). But this list
then *must not* have "tuxmath" in it's name…!

Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. I'm
looking forward for a modified plan! ;-)


-- 
cheers,
	Holger

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance (was: Tuxmath maintainance?)

[deepak a. <dee...@gm...>]

Hi Bastien

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Bastien Guerry <bz...@gn...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> i'm at lost (again) about what the current situation is and I
> would like to help clarify it so that we can all move forward.
>
> Let me know if I'm right about this:
>
> 1. David Bruce is the official current maintainer but does not
>    have the time to continue.
>
> 2. Holger Levsen is the current Debian package manager and is
>    still okay with packaging the Tuxmath suite.
>
> 3. Deepak has created a clone of tux4kids projects on Github and
>    is also involved in helping with the GSOC aspects.
>
> 4. Laura has done some work on some repositories and is willing
>    to merge this work with the main project.
>
> 5. I have write access to the alioth repositories and am willing
>    to help maintaining the website.
>
> 6. tux...@li... is the central place for
>    communication, even if other mailing lists exist.
>
> If we all agree on the above, that's a good starting point :)
>
Agreed :)


> Now for questions and decisions we need to make:
>
> - @Deepak: are you willing to be the new maintainer?
>

Ya for now I will maintain the repositories. Though I will rope in a
student who had worked earlier so that we have 2 maintainers.


>
> - @Deepak: if so, do you want to use the Github repositories as
>   the main repositories (and sync the alioth ones)?
>

Yup for now that's the plan.


>
> - @Laura: are you using github, alioth or other repositories?
>   What would you need to use the central repositories instead
>   of the ones you use today?
>
> - @all: can we agree to archive all other mailing list and only
>   advertize tuxmath-devel@ ?
>
> If Deepak is the new maintainer and the Github repositories are
> the central place for development and tuxmath-devel@ is the one
> place for communication, things can move forward like this:
>
> - Holger sets the alioth sync.


> - I update the website with these informations.
>
> - Laura submit patches against the github repos and move her
>   development there.
>
> Let me know how it goes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>  Bastien
>

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