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Hi ,

I would like to install trinux on one hard disk partition , it is
possible ?

Thanks
Have a good day

Fabien

i am newbie to the linux trinix thing/so please forgive my questions
here we go
i have a compaq contura aero 4/33c 486 laptop with a 243 meg HD and i was 
wonderig how i would go about installing trinix on the HD i currently have 
fat16 partition-
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> Subject: [Trinux-talk] (no subject)
> 
> i am newbie to the linux trinix thing/so please forgive my questions
> here we go
> i have a compaq contura aero 4/33c 486 laptop with a 243 meg HD and i was 
> wonderig how i would go about installing trinix on the HD i currently have 
> fat16 partition-
> thanks'

http://trinux.sourceforge.net/config.html would be a good start

I have just started using Trinux and am having trouble controlling which packages it loads.

When using version 0.80 I am unable to load any packages from either fixed disk or floppy. I have the IDE and NTFS drivers (Its an NTFS hard drive) but cannot find out how to force Trinux to look on the drives for packages. I have added the packages to pkglist but this does not seem to help.

When using versionb 0.70 I can load packages from floppy OK, but again not from the hard disk. I have tried adding fixed to the tux/options directory, but this does not seem to work. This version does not have a pkglist at all (but loads packages from floppy fine).

Do both versions work the same way? I assume it is best to use version 0.80 if possible.

Thanks, Ian

> I have just started using Trinux and am having trouble controlling
> which packages it loads.

I'm not sure if I've updated the documentation yet (this and getting samba
working are about the only thing holding up the final 0.80 release)

> 
> When using version 0.80 I am unable to load any packages from either
> fixed disk or floppy. I have the IDE and NTFS drivers (Its an NTFS
> hard drive) but cannot find out how to force Trinux to look on the
> drives for packages. I have added the packages to pkglist but this
> does not seem to help.

create a /trinux folder on the root of the hard drive (preferably your
first drive/partition, although it should matter) -- you should see
trinux going through all filesystems it finds (and can mount) looking for
a trinux directory and a specific package 

from linuxrc:

for i in `cat /etc/tux/config/fstab`
do
        cd /
        part=`echo $i | cut -d: -f1`
        fstype=`echo $i | cut -d: -f2`

        echo "Checking $part ($fstype) for Trinux packages"

        if mount -o ro -t $fstype /dev/$part $part
        then
                        cd $part

                        if [ -f trinux/baselib.tgz ]
                        then
                                echo "Packages found on $part: loading..."

> When using versionb 0.70 I can load packages from floppy OK, but again
> not from the hard disk. I have tried adding fixed to the tux/options
> directory, but this does not seem to work. This version does not have
> a pkglist at all (but loads packages from floppy fine).
> 
> Do both versions work the same way? I assume it is best to use version 0.80 if possible.
> 

No, use .80

> Thanks, Ian
> 

Let me know if you have any more problems.

-mdf

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Hi,
  I'm using Trinux version 080pre1 and I can't get dsniff up and running. 
Several of the problems I have run into were lack of dsniff.magic and 
dsniff.services files (I ended up extracting these files from dsniff's 
latest version). After I got dsniff using these files I ran into problems 
where it didn't recognize the different protocols such as TCP and RPC. Are 
there plans to fix dsniff in the upcoming 080 version? Can I do anything to 
get it running right now? Thanks for your time,
Brandon
PS is it possible that a BitchX package (or similar IRC program) could be 
included in the next version of Trinux?
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does trinux linux support pptp?

Guten Tag trinux-talk,

i use trinux-0.80rc2-net.img. I need nfs support. which way i have to
do it. I´ve try it for many hours but don´t found a solution.  

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Hello Trinux-talk,
is there anybody who is able to compile a pci-scan.o and a via-rhine.o
with the kernel 2.4.5, because i don´t have this kernel on my
computers running. I need this files to run a d-link DFE 530 TX
netcard to run with trinux.

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The via-rhine module is in:

http://www.trinux.org/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o

Copy this to your boot floppy and add the name of the
module (via-rhine.o) to the file

Use an ASCII text editor (notepad *not* wordpad) to
edit the file \tux\config\modules on the floppy.

- OR -

If you are within trinux you can do:

# fmount
# cd /floppy/tux/config
# echo "via-rhine.o" >> modules
# cd /
# sync
# fumount

Then after you reboot you can do

# dmesg | more  

this will page through the kernel boot messages

or

# lsmod

to see if it got loaded. The module will be put in
/lib/modules so you should be able to insmod it
manually.

What is pci-scan? Did you attempt to install the
via-rhine module and it gave you an error. My guess is
that the pci-scan is only needed if pci support is
compiled as a module--which it is not. 

Unfortunately, I'm in between DSL provides (damn
Rhythms!) so I don't have decent access to my Trinux
development boxes which are at work.

-mdf

--- mahling <ma...@gm...> wrote:
> Hello Trinux-talk,
> is there anybody who is able to compile a pci-scan.o
> and a via-rhine.o
> with the kernel 2.4.5, because i don´t have this
> kernel on my
> computers running. I need this files to run a d-link
> DFE 530 TX
> netcard to run with trinux.
> 
>   
> 
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> 
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Hi.

I've created my bootable CD off of trinux-0.80rc2-2.4.5.iso image.

Question. What device is the CD associated with so I can mount it?
It seems odd to not mount the CD since I just booted off of it.

I am also having the same problems as Phill in loading in additional
packages.

Thanks,

Joe

>FROM: deloitte.co.nzDATE: 10/09/2001 16:14:30
>SUBJECT:  [Trinux-talk] Problems with a bootable
>Trinux CD Hello all

>I have created a Trinux boot CD that works really well but I'm having
>difficulties creating a cd that will load additional kernel modules when it
>boots.

>I am trying to load the following kernel modules
>to create a bootable Linux cd that supports the PCMCIA Xircom network card
>on my laptop.

>pcmcia-bin.tgz
>pcmcia-coremods.tgz
>pcmcia-xirc2ps.tgz

>To try and get this working I have been copying these files into the
>/TRINUX/ directory on my CD image and adding the package filenames to
>/TRINUX/tux/config/kpkglist on the CD image.

>But this does not work.  The modules just do not load at boot time.

>Once Trinux has booted I can then mount the CD-ROM, copy these three
>packages to the root directory, untar them, and exec pcmcia to initialise
>the network card.

>This brings up the network card fine.

>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  I feel like there is
>something small that I am missing as I'm still getting my head around
>Trinux.

>Great tools kit though.

>Phill

A workaround might be to do an insmod in your /tux/init/last script.

Put the module packages in the pkglist (to grab them), then...

Add this line to /tux/init/last

insmod /lib/modules/yourmodule.o

On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Joe Fico wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I've created my bootable CD off of trinux-0.80rc2-2.4.5.iso image.
> 
> Question. What device is the CD associated with so I can mount it?
> It seems odd to not mount the CD since I just booted off of it.
> 
> I am also having the same problems as Phill in loading in additional
> packages.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> >FROM: deloitte.co.nzDATE: 10/09/2001 16:14:30
> >SUBJECT:  [Trinux-talk] Problems with a bootable
> >Trinux CD Hello all
> 
> >I have created a Trinux boot CD that works really well but I'm having
> >difficulties creating a cd that will load additional kernel modules when it
> >boots.
> 
> >I am trying to load the following kernel modules
> >to create a bootable Linux cd that supports the PCMCIA Xircom network card
> >on my laptop.
> 
> >pcmcia-bin.tgz
> >pcmcia-coremods.tgz
> >pcmcia-xirc2ps.tgz
> 
> >To try and get this working I have been copying these files into the
> >/TRINUX/ directory on my CD image and adding the package filenames to
> >/TRINUX/tux/config/kpkglist on the CD image.
> 
> >But this does not work.  The modules just do not load at boot time.
> 
> >Once Trinux has booted I can then mount the CD-ROM, copy these three
> >packages to the root directory, untar them, and exec pcmcia to initialise
> >the network card.
> 
> >This brings up the network card fine.
> 
> >Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  I feel like there is
> >something small that I am missing as I'm still getting my head around
> >Trinux.
> 
> >Great tools kit though.
> 
> >Phill
> 
> 
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Hi, I was wondering, where the source to trinux would be? I want to try to 
eventualy make my own OS (or at leaste my own linux distro.). So I'm getting 
as much source for example as I can, but I cant find the trinux source code. 
Thanks.

-AxE

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I'm interested in the same thing.  This is what I've figured out so far.
(Matthew -- let me know if I'm wrong on anything.)

1) All of the original code I've seen evidence of in Trinux are in shell
scripts, so in a way you already have the source but just don't know it.

2) Much of this is actually stored in a compressed minux file system on
the boot disk -- initrd.gz.  You can poke around this / modify it by
using the loop back device.  Let me know if you don't know how to do
this and I'll find the applicable HOWTO for you.  I think Matt also has
a copy of this in a variety of formats under the "bleeding edge" link on
the site.

3) The kernel is straight from Linus' Linux sources.

4) The config files for the kernel can be found the web site, at
http://trinux.sourceforge.net/kernel/2.4.13/.  Note that this is for
2.4.13, and 2.4.5 is the kernel that the current boot disks use.
I don't think it makes too much difference, though... I wanted to use
the modified Mandrake stock kernel 2.4.8 (it has XFS and other goodies)
and with a little hacking I got it to compile and it works great.

5) The packages are mostly binaries, but in most cases you can get the
sources directly from the maintainer of the original software.

6) There's an ISO script in the download section on sourceforge which
automates creating a CD ROM.

So, if you are interested in making your new system from scratch, I think
you've got a great example here.  The only things I can see that might
be missing are:

1) Any scripts Matt may have done to automate the packaging process.
2) Any patches that may have been needed to packages
3) I don't know what was involved in some of the base packages like the
libraries, etc.

The reason I haven't seen these is that they might not exist.  Matt may
have just packaged things manually and stolen the libraries from
another distro (I think he built this on Slackware)

I hope this helps!

John

On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 11:27:44PM +0000, AxE Online wrote:
> Hi, I was wondering, where the source to trinux would be? I want to try to 
> eventualy make my own OS (or at leaste my own linux distro.). So I'm getting 
> 
> as much source for example as I can, but I cant find the trinux source code. 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -AxE
> 
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> 1) All of the original code I've seen evidence of in Trinux are in shell
> scripts, so in a way you already have the source but just don't know it.

Yes.

>
> 2) Much of this is actually stored in a compressed minux file system on
> the boot disk -- initrd.gz.  You can poke around this / modify it by
> using the loop back device.  Let me know if you don't know how to do
> this and I'll find the applicable HOWTO for you.  I think Matt also has
> a copy of this in a variety of formats under the "bleeding edge" link on
> the site.

Yes, see http://www.io.com/~mdfranz/initrd/ for the latest builds.
Actually, they are reasonably stable.

> 3) The kernel is straight from Linus' Linux sources.

Yes

> 4) The config files for the kernel can be found the web site, at
> http://trinux.sourceforge.net/kernel/2.4.13/.  Note that this is for
> 2.4.13, and 2.4.5 is the kernel that the current boot disks use.
> I don't think it makes too much difference, though... I wanted to use
> the modified Mandrake stock kernel 2.4.8 (it has XFS and other goodies)
> and with a little hacking I got it to compile and it works great.

Right

> 5) The packages are mostly binaries, but in most cases you can get the
> sources directly from the maintainer of the original software.

Most of the links to the originals are at http://trinux.sf.net/tools.html

> 6) There's an ISO script in the download section on sourceforge which
> automates creating a CD ROM.
>
> So, if you are interested in making your new system from scratch, I think
> you've got a great example here.  The only things I can see that might
> be missing are:
>
> 1) Any scripts Matt may have done to automate the packaging process.

see http://www.io.com/~mdfranz/trinux/devtools/ for mkpkg (package)
building) and mkrd (initrd)

> 2) Any patches that may have been needed to packages

Most of the stuff compiled pretty cleanly.

> 3) I don't know what was involved in some of the base packages like the
> libraries, etc.

Everything was compiled on Slackware 7.1 (glibc2.1.3) If the libraries
were part of the install I used them. However, other stuff like libpcap,
libnet, openssl, and who knows what else I compiled myself.

-mdf

One more thing... if you are interested in building your own distro,
check out the Linux From Scratch guide at LDP:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/lfs/LFS/index.html

John

On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 11:27:44PM +0000, AxE Online wrote:
> Hi, I was wondering, where the source to trinux would be? I want to try to 
> eventualy make my own OS (or at leaste my own linux distro.). So I'm getting 
> 
> as much source for example as I can, but I cant find the trinux source code. 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -AxE
> 
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       How could I find out how to customize Trinux... or what goes on
during the boot and other processes while the system is running? I was
also wondering about file encryption as well...
                    thanks, mstrhelix

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You can review the trinux-talk archives to see how to build/rebuild the
initrd (see the link off the main trinux.sf.net page) and/or see the mkrd
script at http://www.io.com/~mdfranz/trinux/devtools/

Most everything is in linuxrc or scripts in /sbin/

Add to/modify stuff in \tux\init on the boot floppy to add your own
commands to exectued.

File encryption? Symmetric/Assymetric? There is a GnuPG package in
http://trinux.sf.net/pkg/ that could be used. I could probably drum up an
AES package as well.

Or filesystem encryption?? That would be interesting. Running the OS of
non-encrypting ramdisk filesystems but accessing data from fixed persisent
encrypted filesytems. Hmmm... I will look into that.

- mdf

     I know realize that I was being stupid and looked around the list
until I went nearly blind and found some more info...
    I found the mousedev.o module and put it on my boot floppy
    next I proceeded to vi /tux/config/modules and added
    mousedev.o to the modules file...

after rebooting my system and searching through "dmesg" and doing
a few lsmod's I found no record of the module that I loaded ...
  what gives?

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Hi,
I have a problem about Trinux boot. img. I want to boot my laptop with a
boot img (pcmcia.img) and I would like to read my hda0 in the same time. Is
it possible to custom a pcmcia to do that ?
Thanks

--- surfer <su...@no...> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a problem about Trinux boot. img. I want to
> boot my laptop with a
> boot img (pcmcia.img) and I would like to read my
> hda0 in the same time. Is
> it possible to custom a pcmcia to do that ?

What do you mean by the "same time?" 

It is unlikely that you will be able to fit both the
ide.tgz packages and the pcmcia kernel module packages
on a single floppy but if your network is connected
you can load them remotely or put them on another DOS
floppy

# fmount
# cd /floppy

# pkgadd ide.tgz
# pkgadd fs.mods.tgz

You might have to run /etc/init.d/ide because I can't
remember if pkgadd automatically insmods the modules.

If you have network connectivity then just do

#getpkg 2.4.5/ide.tgz
#getpkg 2.4.5/fsmods.tgz

then insmod /lib/modules/filesystem.o

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Matt..

  I noticed an idosyncracy of getpkg the other day..

-----

If you request a package with:

getpkg diskutil

The package is installed and the init is run.

------

If you request a package with:

getpkg diskutil.tgz

The package is installed and the init is NOT run.

------

I don't know if this was intentional or not.  But a look at the code 
confirms that getpkg tries to init /etc/init.d/diskutil.tgz, which fails.

I did not look at addpkg.  It might do the same...

    I know realize that I was being stupid and looked around the list
until I went nearly blind and found some more info...
   I found the mousedev.o module and put it on my boot floppy
   next I proceeded to vi /tux/config/modules and added
   mousedev.o to the modules file...

after rebooting my system and searching through "dmesg" and doing
a few lsmod's I found no record of the module that I loaded ...
what gives?

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         Is there anyway I could get a binary for nroff or something
similar for reading manpages under trinux? Please ... thank you.

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