trinux-talk

[Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format

[Richard T. <ri...@th...>]

Good morning all...

I have a newbie question, sorry.

I am using cfdisk to create a partition
on a harddrive. I select the default
type as Linux and then write the
partition table. However, I am not able
to then mount the partition under
Trinux. I load what I think are the
appropriate modules. I have even tried
changing the type to NTFS with no luck.
What I am trying to do is create a
partition that I can write a 6.5GB image
file to using dd. I previously tried
this with VFAT, but ran into the 2GB
file size limit. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Richard Thomas

Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format

[<tb...@ti...>]

It should work.  However, the devil is in the details.

What modules did you load?

What is the dd command line?

What are you doing after the dd finishes, that causes you to believe that 
the dd failed?

If you hope to use the disk as a filesystem, then the image you are 
putting on the disk must be a fully formed filesystem.  You should be able 
to test the image with a mount -o loop command before you do the dd.  The 
partition type should be set to match the type of filesystem.

More info would help.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:

> Good morning all...
> 
> I have a newbie question, sorry.
> 
> I am using cfdisk to create a partition
> on a harddrive. I select the default
> type as Linux and then write the
> partition table. However, I am not able
> to then mount the partition under
> Trinux. I load what I think are the
> appropriate modules. I have even tried
> changing the type to NTFS with no luck.
> What I am trying to do is create a
> partition that I can write a 6.5GB image
> file to using dd. I previously tried
> this with VFAT, but ran into the 2GB
> file size limit. Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Richard Thomas
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Trinux-talk mailing list
> Tri...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> 

-- 
--------------------
Timothy Burt
Internet Specialist

Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format

[Richard T. <ri...@th...>]

Okay, here goes.

Using cfdisk, I create a partition on the hard drive of type 'Linux'. Then I
'W'rite the partition table.

I tried to mount the partition using the minix type. I get the error, "Too
many filesystems, wrong partition, yada yada..."

I loaded ext2.o and tried to mount using the ext2 type. Didn't work.

I loaded ntfs.o and change the partition type to 'HPFS/NTFS'. I tried to
mount using the ntfs type. Didn't work.

I guess I don't know what "-t type" to specify when mounting a Linux type
partition.

When I initially tried to dd partition to the image file on a FAT32
partition, I got an error about exceeding the 2GB file limit.

The dd command line looks like this: dd if=/dev/hdd1 of=/directory/disk.img
bs=1M

I am writing a hard drive partition to an image file and then writing the
image file to a 'clean' hard drive.

Richard Thomas

----- Original Message -----
From: <tb...@ti...>
To: "Richard Thomas" <ri...@th...>
Cc: "Trinux-Talk" <tri...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format


>
> It should work.  However, the devil is in the details.
>
> What modules did you load?
>
> What is the dd command line?
>
> What are you doing after the dd finishes, that causes you to believe that
> the dd failed?
>
> If you hope to use the disk as a filesystem, then the image you are
> putting on the disk must be a fully formed filesystem.  You should be able
> to test the image with a mount -o loop command before you do the dd.  The
> partition type should be set to match the type of filesystem.
>
> More info would help.
>
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:
>
> > Good morning all...
> >
> > I have a newbie question, sorry.
> >
> > I am using cfdisk to create a partition
> > on a harddrive. I select the default
> > type as Linux and then write the
> > partition table. However, I am not able
> > to then mount the partition under
> > Trinux. I load what I think are the
> > appropriate modules. I have even tried
> > changing the type to NTFS with no luck.
> > What I am trying to do is create a
> > partition that I can write a 6.5GB image
> > file to using dd. I previously tried
> > this with VFAT, but ran into the 2GB
> > file size limit. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Richard Thomas
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Trinux-talk mailing list
> > Tri...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> >
>
> --
> --------------------
> Timothy Burt
> Internet Specialist
>
>
>

Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format

[<tb...@ti...>]

The dd command you quote is to read IN the partition to a file.  I assume 
you are changing the command when you dd the file to a partition.  Do you 
know the proper device name for the partition you have just created?  Was 
it used in the dd (out) command?

You might try a "dd if=/dev/hdXX | od -c | head" and a 

"dd if=/directory/disk.img | od -c | head"  and compare them visually.  

This might tell you alot.

Perhaps you are missing an important piece...

A partition defines a region of disk.
A filesystem fills a partition, and defines how the data is organized.
A file is a container, placed within a filesystem, that can hold data.

[.*]nux offers features not found in other OS's, including the ability to 
bypass the filesystem and place a file on a partition and vise versa.

You can dd a partition to a file. and then dd the file back to a new
partition.  You will have mirrored the partition.  If you have both disks
connected but unmounted, then you can dd directly "dd if=/dev/hde1
of=/dev/hde2".  The imtermediary file is not necessary.  You can then
mount the second partition, just as you did the first.  If you couldn't
mount the source partition, then you won't be able to mount the clone.

What is on the partition you are hoping to clone?  Is is a windows 
partition? FAT? NTFS? or Linux? minix, ext2, ext3?.  I think this may be a 
mount issue...

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:

> Okay, here goes.
> 
> Using cfdisk, I create a partition on the hard drive of type 'Linux'. Then I
> 'W'rite the partition table.
> 
> I tried to mount the partition using the minix type. I get the error, "Too
> many filesystems, wrong partition, yada yada..."
> 
> I loaded ext2.o and tried to mount using the ext2 type. Didn't work.
> 
> I loaded ntfs.o and change the partition type to 'HPFS/NTFS'. I tried to
> mount using the ntfs type. Didn't work.
> 
> I guess I don't know what "-t type" to specify when mounting a Linux type
> partition.
> 
> When I initially tried to dd partition to the image file on a FAT32
> partition, I got an error about exceeding the 2GB file limit.
> 
> The dd command line looks like this: dd if=/dev/hdd1 of=/directory/disk.img
> bs=1M
> 
> I am writing a hard drive partition to an image file and then writing the
> image file to a 'clean' hard drive.
> 
> Richard Thomas
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tb...@ti...>
> To: "Richard Thomas" <ri...@th...>
> Cc: "Trinux-Talk" <tri...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 9:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format
> 
> 
> >
> > It should work.  However, the devil is in the details.
> >
> > What modules did you load?
> >
> > What is the dd command line?
> >
> > What are you doing after the dd finishes, that causes you to believe that
> > the dd failed?
> >
> > If you hope to use the disk as a filesystem, then the image you are
> > putting on the disk must be a fully formed filesystem.  You should be able
> > to test the image with a mount -o loop command before you do the dd.  The
> > partition type should be set to match the type of filesystem.
> >
> > More info would help.
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > Good morning all...
> > >
> > > I have a newbie question, sorry.
> > >
> > > I am using cfdisk to create a partition
> > > on a harddrive. I select the default
> > > type as Linux and then write the
> > > partition table. However, I am not able
> > > to then mount the partition under
> > > Trinux. I load what I think are the
> > > appropriate modules. I have even tried
> > > changing the type to NTFS with no luck.
> > > What I am trying to do is create a
> > > partition that I can write a 6.5GB image
> > > file to using dd. I previously tried
> > > this with VFAT, but ran into the 2GB
> > > file size limit. Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Richard Thomas
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Trinux-talk mailing list
> > > Tri...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> > >
> >
> > --
> > --------------------
> > Timothy Burt
> > Internet Specialist
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Trinux-talk mailing list
> Tri...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> 

-- 
--------------------
Timothy Burt
Internet Specialist

Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format

[Richard T. <ri...@th...>]

The reason I was trying to mount the partition after creating it was to make
sure I was creating it correctly.

If I create a Linux (82?) type partition what -t type do I specify in the
mount command line? What type partition do I create if I want to use the
ext2 driver to mount the partition?

I am using dd to an intermediary file so that I get matching hashes from the
initial partition and the destination image file. If I dd from drive to
drive, it will make an exact copy of the partition, but the hashes won't
match.

I agree that I might be missing something. I just looked online and saw that
I am missing the mkfs command step. I told you this was a newbie question.

----- Original Message -----
From: <tb...@ti...>
To: "Richard Thomas" <ri...@th...>
Cc: "Trinux-Talk" <tri...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format


>
> The dd command you quote is to read IN the partition to a file.  I assume
> you are changing the command when you dd the file to a partition.  Do you
> know the proper device name for the partition you have just created?  Was
> it used in the dd (out) command?
>
> You might try a "dd if=/dev/hdXX | od -c | head" and a
>
> "dd if=/directory/disk.img | od -c | head"  and compare them visually.
>
> This might tell you alot.
>
> Perhaps you are missing an important piece...
>
> A partition defines a region of disk.
> A filesystem fills a partition, and defines how the data is organized.
> A file is a container, placed within a filesystem, that can hold data.
>
> [.*]nux offers features not found in other OS's, including the ability to
> bypass the filesystem and place a file on a partition and vise versa.
>
> You can dd a partition to a file. and then dd the file back to a new
> partition.  You will have mirrored the partition.  If you have both disks
> connected but unmounted, then you can dd directly "dd if=/dev/hde1
> of=/dev/hde2".  The imtermediary file is not necessary.  You can then
> mount the second partition, just as you did the first.  If you couldn't
> mount the source partition, then you won't be able to mount the clone.
>
> What is on the partition you are hoping to clone?  Is is a windows
> partition? FAT? NTFS? or Linux? minix, ext2, ext3?.  I think this may be a
> mount issue...
>
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:
>
> > Okay, here goes.
> >
> > Using cfdisk, I create a partition on the hard drive of type 'Linux'.
Then I
> > 'W'rite the partition table.
> >
> > I tried to mount the partition using the minix type. I get the error,
"Too
> > many filesystems, wrong partition, yada yada..."
> >
> > I loaded ext2.o and tried to mount using the ext2 type. Didn't work.
> >
> > I loaded ntfs.o and change the partition type to 'HPFS/NTFS'. I tried to
> > mount using the ntfs type. Didn't work.
> >
> > I guess I don't know what "-t type" to specify when mounting a Linux
type
> > partition.
> >
> > When I initially tried to dd partition to the image file on a FAT32
> > partition, I got an error about exceeding the 2GB file limit.
> >
> > The dd command line looks like this: dd if=/dev/hdd1
of=/directory/disk.img
> > bs=1M
> >
> > I am writing a hard drive partition to an image file and then writing
the
> > image file to a 'clean' hard drive.
> >
> > Richard Thomas
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <tb...@ti...>
> > To: "Richard Thomas" <ri...@th...>
> > Cc: "Trinux-Talk" <tri...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 9:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It should work.  However, the devil is in the details.
> > >
> > > What modules did you load?
> > >
> > > What is the dd command line?
> > >
> > > What are you doing after the dd finishes, that causes you to believe
that
> > > the dd failed?
> > >
> > > If you hope to use the disk as a filesystem, then the image you are
> > > putting on the disk must be a fully formed filesystem.  You should be
able
> > > to test the image with a mount -o loop command before you do the dd.
The
> > > partition type should be set to match the type of filesystem.
> > >
> > > More info would help.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:
> > >
> > > > Good morning all...
> > > >
> > > > I have a newbie question, sorry.
> > > >
> > > > I am using cfdisk to create a partition
> > > > on a harddrive. I select the default
> > > > type as Linux and then write the
> > > > partition table. However, I am not able
> > > > to then mount the partition under
> > > > Trinux. I load what I think are the
> > > > appropriate modules. I have even tried
> > > > changing the type to NTFS with no luck.
> > > > What I am trying to do is create a
> > > > partition that I can write a 6.5GB image
> > > > file to using dd. I previously tried
> > > > this with VFAT, but ran into the 2GB
> > > > file size limit. Any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Richard Thomas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Trinux-talk mailing list
> > > > Tri...@li...
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > --------------------
> > > Timothy Burt
> > > Internet Specialist
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Trinux-talk mailing list
> > Tri...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> >
>
> --
> --------------------
> Timothy Burt
> Internet Specialist
>
>
>

Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format

[<tb...@ti...>]

What type of filesystem are you trying to clone?

What, exactly is on the source partition?

What is the device id of the source partition?

What is the device id of the destination partition?


On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:

> The reason I was trying to mount the partition after creating it was to make
> sure I was creating it correctly.
> 
> If I create a Linux (82?) type partition what -t type do I specify in the
> mount command line? What type partition do I create if I want to use the
> ext2 driver to mount the partition?
> 
> I am using dd to an intermediary file so that I get matching hashes from the
> initial partition and the destination image file. If I dd from drive to
> drive, it will make an exact copy of the partition, but the hashes won't
> match.
> 
> I agree that I might be missing something. I just looked online and saw that
> I am missing the mkfs command step. I told you this was a newbie question.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tb...@ti...>
> To: "Richard Thomas" <ri...@th...>
> Cc: "Trinux-Talk" <tri...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format
> 
> 
> >
> > The dd command you quote is to read IN the partition to a file.  I assume
> > you are changing the command when you dd the file to a partition.  Do you
> > know the proper device name for the partition you have just created?  Was
> > it used in the dd (out) command?
> >
> > You might try a "dd if=/dev/hdXX | od -c | head" and a
> >
> > "dd if=/directory/disk.img | od -c | head"  and compare them visually.
> >
> > This might tell you alot.
> >
> > Perhaps you are missing an important piece...
> >
> > A partition defines a region of disk.
> > A filesystem fills a partition, and defines how the data is organized.
> > A file is a container, placed within a filesystem, that can hold data.
> >
> > [.*]nux offers features not found in other OS's, including the ability to
> > bypass the filesystem and place a file on a partition and vise versa.
> >
> > You can dd a partition to a file. and then dd the file back to a new
> > partition.  You will have mirrored the partition.  If you have both disks
> > connected but unmounted, then you can dd directly "dd if=/dev/hde1
> > of=/dev/hde2".  The imtermediary file is not necessary.  You can then
> > mount the second partition, just as you did the first.  If you couldn't
> > mount the source partition, then you won't be able to mount the clone.
> >
> > What is on the partition you are hoping to clone?  Is is a windows
> > partition? FAT? NTFS? or Linux? minix, ext2, ext3?.  I think this may be a
> > mount issue...
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > Okay, here goes.
> > >
> > > Using cfdisk, I create a partition on the hard drive of type 'Linux'.
> Then I
> > > 'W'rite the partition table.
> > >
> > > I tried to mount the partition using the minix type. I get the error,
> "Too
> > > many filesystems, wrong partition, yada yada..."
> > >
> > > I loaded ext2.o and tried to mount using the ext2 type. Didn't work.
> > >
> > > I loaded ntfs.o and change the partition type to 'HPFS/NTFS'. I tried to
> > > mount using the ntfs type. Didn't work.
> > >
> > > I guess I don't know what "-t type" to specify when mounting a Linux
> type
> > > partition.
> > >
> > > When I initially tried to dd partition to the image file on a FAT32
> > > partition, I got an error about exceeding the 2GB file limit.
> > >
> > > The dd command line looks like this: dd if=/dev/hdd1
> of=/directory/disk.img
> > > bs=1M
> > >
> > > I am writing a hard drive partition to an image file and then writing
> the
> > > image file to a 'clean' hard drive.
> > >
> > > Richard Thomas
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <tb...@ti...>
> > > To: "Richard Thomas" <ri...@th...>
> > > Cc: "Trinux-Talk" <tri...@li...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 9:00 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It should work.  However, the devil is in the details.
> > > >
> > > > What modules did you load?
> > > >
> > > > What is the dd command line?
> > > >
> > > > What are you doing after the dd finishes, that causes you to believe
> that
> > > > the dd failed?
> > > >
> > > > If you hope to use the disk as a filesystem, then the image you are
> > > > putting on the disk must be a fully formed filesystem.  You should be
> able
> > > > to test the image with a mount -o loop command before you do the dd.
> The
> > > > partition type should be set to match the type of filesystem.
> > > >
> > > > More info would help.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Good morning all...
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a newbie question, sorry.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am using cfdisk to create a partition
> > > > > on a harddrive. I select the default
> > > > > type as Linux and then write the
> > > > > partition table. However, I am not able
> > > > > to then mount the partition under
> > > > > Trinux. I load what I think are the
> > > > > appropriate modules. I have even tried
> > > > > changing the type to NTFS with no luck.
> > > > > What I am trying to do is create a
> > > > > partition that I can write a 6.5GB image
> > > > > file to using dd. I previously tried
> > > > > this with VFAT, but ran into the 2GB
> > > > > file size limit. Any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard Thomas
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Trinux-talk mailing list
> > > > > Tri...@li...
> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > --------------------
> > > > Timothy Burt
> > > > Internet Specialist
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Trinux-talk mailing list
> > > Tri...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> > >
> >
> > --
> > --------------------
> > Timothy Burt
> > Internet Specialist
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Trinux-talk mailing list
> Tri...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> 

-- 
--------------------
Timothy Burt
Internet Specialist

Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format

[Richard T. <ri...@th...>]

See below...

----- Original Message -----
From: <tb...@ti...>
To: "Richard Thomas" <ri...@th...>
Cc: "Trinux-Talk" <tri...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format


>
> What type of filesystem are you trying to clone?
    In this instance, FAT32
>
> What, exactly is on the source partition?
    A Win98 OS
>
> What is the device id of the source partition?
    /dev/hdd1
>
> What is the device id of the destination partition?
    /dev/hdb1
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:
>
> > The reason I was trying to mount the partition after creating it was to
make
> > sure I was creating it correctly.
> >
> > If I create a Linux (82?) type partition what -t type do I specify in
the
> > mount command line? What type partition do I create if I want to use the
> > ext2 driver to mount the partition?
> >
> > I am using dd to an intermediary file so that I get matching hashes from
the
> > initial partition and the destination image file. If I dd from drive to
> > drive, it will make an exact copy of the partition, but the hashes won't
> > match.
> >
> > I agree that I might be missing something. I just looked online and saw
that
> > I am missing the mkfs command step. I told you this was a newbie
question.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <tb...@ti...>
> > To: "Richard Thomas" <ri...@th...>
> > Cc: "Trinux-Talk" <tri...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The dd command you quote is to read IN the partition to a file.  I
assume
> > > you are changing the command when you dd the file to a partition.  Do
you
> > > know the proper device name for the partition you have just created?
Was
> > > it used in the dd (out) command?
> > >
> > > You might try a "dd if=/dev/hdXX | od -c | head" and a
> > >
> > > "dd if=/directory/disk.img | od -c | head"  and compare them visually.
> > >
> > > This might tell you alot.
> > >
> > > Perhaps you are missing an important piece...
> > >
> > > A partition defines a region of disk.
> > > A filesystem fills a partition, and defines how the data is organized.
> > > A file is a container, placed within a filesystem, that can hold data.
> > >
> > > [.*]nux offers features not found in other OS's, including the ability
to
> > > bypass the filesystem and place a file on a partition and vise versa.
> > >
> > > You can dd a partition to a file. and then dd the file back to a new
> > > partition.  You will have mirrored the partition.  If you have both
disks
> > > connected but unmounted, then you can dd directly "dd if=/dev/hde1
> > > of=/dev/hde2".  The imtermediary file is not necessary.  You can then
> > > mount the second partition, just as you did the first.  If you
couldn't
> > > mount the source partition, then you won't be able to mount the clone.
> > >
> > > What is on the partition you are hoping to clone?  Is is a windows
> > > partition? FAT? NTFS? or Linux? minix, ext2, ext3?.  I think this may
be a
> > > mount issue...
> > >
> > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:
> > >
> > > > Okay, here goes.
> > > >
> > > > Using cfdisk, I create a partition on the hard drive of type
'Linux'.
> > Then I
> > > > 'W'rite the partition table.
> > > >
> > > > I tried to mount the partition using the minix type. I get the
error,
> > "Too
> > > > many filesystems, wrong partition, yada yada..."
> > > >
> > > > I loaded ext2.o and tried to mount using the ext2 type. Didn't work.
> > > >
> > > > I loaded ntfs.o and change the partition type to 'HPFS/NTFS'. I
tried to
> > > > mount using the ntfs type. Didn't work.
> > > >
> > > > I guess I don't know what "-t type" to specify when mounting a Linux
> > type
> > > > partition.
> > > >
> > > > When I initially tried to dd partition to the image file on a FAT32
> > > > partition, I got an error about exceeding the 2GB file limit.
> > > >
> > > > The dd command line looks like this: dd if=/dev/hdd1
> > of=/directory/disk.img
> > > > bs=1M
> > > >
> > > > I am writing a hard drive partition to an image file and then
writing
> > the
> > > > image file to a 'clean' hard drive.
> > > >
> > > > Richard Thomas
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <tb...@ti...>
> > > > To: "Richard Thomas" <ri...@th...>
> > > > Cc: "Trinux-Talk" <tri...@li...>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 9:00 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It should work.  However, the devil is in the details.
> > > > >
> > > > > What modules did you load?
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the dd command line?
> > > > >
> > > > > What are you doing after the dd finishes, that causes you to
believe
> > that
> > > > > the dd failed?
> > > > >
> > > > > If you hope to use the disk as a filesystem, then the image you
are
> > > > > putting on the disk must be a fully formed filesystem.  You should
be
> > able
> > > > > to test the image with a mount -o loop command before you do the
dd.
> > The
> > > > > partition type should be set to match the type of filesystem.
> > > > >
> > > > > More info would help.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Good morning all...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a newbie question, sorry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am using cfdisk to create a partition
> > > > > > on a harddrive. I select the default
> > > > > > type as Linux and then write the
> > > > > > partition table. However, I am not able
> > > > > > to then mount the partition under
> > > > > > Trinux. I load what I think are the
> > > > > > appropriate modules. I have even tried
> > > > > > changing the type to NTFS with no luck.
> > > > > > What I am trying to do is create a
> > > > > > partition that I can write a 6.5GB image
> > > > > > file to using dd. I previously tried
> > > > > > this with VFAT, but ran into the 2GB
> > > > > > file size limit. Any suggestions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Richard Thomas
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > > Tri...@li...
> > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > --------------------
> > > > > Timothy Burt
> > > > > Internet Specialist
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Tri...@li...
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> > >
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> > > Internet Specialist
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
>
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> --------------------
> Timothy Burt
> Internet Specialist
>
>
>

Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format

[<tb...@ti...>]

The filesystem types available for the -t parameter to the mount command 
are:

 adfs,  affs,  autofs,  coda,
              coherent,  devpts, efs, ext, ext2, hfs, hpfs, iso9660, 
minix, msdos, ncpfs, nfs, ntfs, proc, qnx4,
              romfs, smbfs, sysv, udf, ufs, umsdos, vfat, xenix, xiafs

I think for a FAT32 Win98 OS, you should use the vfat param or msdos 
param.  You might try them both.

Try mounting the old source partition with:

mount -t vfat /dev/hdd1 /mnt

If that fails, try msdos or umsdos for type.

You can also find out the partition type of the /dev/hdd1 partition with 
fdisk .. 

fdisk /dev/hdd

enter m<rtn> for help/menu and p<rtn> to view the current table.  The 
partition type will be listed for hdd1.  Make sure your destination 
partition is set to the same type.

Once you can mount (and umount) the old source partition successfully, 
then create the new partition with the type you got from fdisk.  then:

dd if=/dev/hdd1 of=/dev/hdb1

You shouldn't need an intermediary file, and you shouldn't need the "bs" 
parameter.

You should be able to mount the second partition then.

Important note...  hdb1 must be as large or larger than hdd1 in total 
size, not just disk used by the data.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:

> See below...
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tb...@ti...>
> To: "Richard Thomas" <ri...@th...>
> Cc: "Trinux-Talk" <tri...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format
> 
> 
> >
> > What type of filesystem are you trying to clone?
>     In this instance, FAT32
> >
> > What, exactly is on the source partition?
>     A Win98 OS
> >
> > What is the device id of the source partition?
>     /dev/hdd1
> >
> > What is the device id of the destination partition?
>     /dev/hdb1
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > The reason I was trying to mount the partition after creating it was to
> make
> > > sure I was creating it correctly.
> > >
> > > If I create a Linux (82?) type partition what -t type do I specify in
> the
> > > mount command line? What type partition do I create if I want to use the
> > > ext2 driver to mount the partition?
> > >
> > > I am using dd to an intermediary file so that I get matching hashes from
> the
> > > initial partition and the destination image file. If I dd from drive to
> > > drive, it will make an exact copy of the partition, but the hashes won't
> > > match.
> > >
> > > I agree that I might be missing something. I just looked online and saw
> that
> > > I am missing the mkfs command step. I told you this was a newbie
> question.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <tb...@ti...>
> > > To: "Richard Thomas" <ri...@th...>
> > > Cc: "Trinux-Talk" <tri...@li...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:36 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The dd command you quote is to read IN the partition to a file.  I
> assume
> > > > you are changing the command when you dd the file to a partition.  Do
> you
> > > > know the proper device name for the partition you have just created?
> Was
> > > > it used in the dd (out) command?
> > > >
> > > > You might try a "dd if=/dev/hdXX | od -c | head" and a
> > > >
> > > > "dd if=/directory/disk.img | od -c | head"  and compare them visually.
> > > >
> > > > This might tell you alot.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps you are missing an important piece...
> > > >
> > > > A partition defines a region of disk.
> > > > A filesystem fills a partition, and defines how the data is organized.
> > > > A file is a container, placed within a filesystem, that can hold data.
> > > >
> > > > [.*]nux offers features not found in other OS's, including the ability
> to
> > > > bypass the filesystem and place a file on a partition and vise versa.
> > > >
> > > > You can dd a partition to a file. and then dd the file back to a new
> > > > partition.  You will have mirrored the partition.  If you have both
> disks
> > > > connected but unmounted, then you can dd directly "dd if=/dev/hde1
> > > > of=/dev/hde2".  The imtermediary file is not necessary.  You can then
> > > > mount the second partition, just as you did the first.  If you
> couldn't
> > > > mount the source partition, then you won't be able to mount the clone.
> > > >
> > > > What is on the partition you are hoping to clone?  Is is a windows
> > > > partition? FAT? NTFS? or Linux? minix, ext2, ext3?.  I think this may
> be a
> > > > mount issue...
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Okay, here goes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Using cfdisk, I create a partition on the hard drive of type
> 'Linux'.
> > > Then I
> > > > > 'W'rite the partition table.
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried to mount the partition using the minix type. I get the
> error,
> > > "Too
> > > > > many filesystems, wrong partition, yada yada..."
> > > > >
> > > > > I loaded ext2.o and tried to mount using the ext2 type. Didn't work.
> > > > >
> > > > > I loaded ntfs.o and change the partition type to 'HPFS/NTFS'. I
> tried to
> > > > > mount using the ntfs type. Didn't work.
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess I don't know what "-t type" to specify when mounting a Linux
> > > type
> > > > > partition.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I initially tried to dd partition to the image file on a FAT32
> > > > > partition, I got an error about exceeding the 2GB file limit.
> > > > >
> > > > > The dd command line looks like this: dd if=/dev/hdd1
> > > of=/directory/disk.img
> > > > > bs=1M
> > > > >
> > > > > I am writing a hard drive partition to an image file and then
> writing
> > > the
> > > > > image file to a 'clean' hard drive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard Thomas
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <tb...@ti...>
> > > > > To: "Richard Thomas" <ri...@th...>
> > > > > Cc: "Trinux-Talk" <tri...@li...>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 9:00 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It should work.  However, the devil is in the details.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What modules did you load?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is the dd command line?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What are you doing after the dd finishes, that causes you to
> believe
> > > that
> > > > > > the dd failed?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you hope to use the disk as a filesystem, then the image you
> are
> > > > > > putting on the disk must be a fully formed filesystem.  You should
> be
> > > able
> > > > > > to test the image with a mount -o loop command before you do the
> dd.
> > > The
> > > > > > partition type should be set to match the type of filesystem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > More info would help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Richard Thomas wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Good morning all...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a newbie question, sorry.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am using cfdisk to create a partition
> > > > > > > on a harddrive. I select the default
> > > > > > > type as Linux and then write the
> > > > > > > partition table. However, I am not able
> > > > > > > to then mount the partition under
> > > > > > > Trinux. I load what I think are the
> > > > > > > appropriate modules. I have even tried
> > > > > > > changing the type to NTFS with no luck.
> > > > > > > What I am trying to do is create a
> > > > > > > partition that I can write a 6.5GB image
> > > > > > > file to using dd. I previously tried
> > > > > > > this with VFAT, but ran into the 2GB
> > > > > > > file size limit. Any suggestions?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Richard Thomas
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > Trinux-talk mailing list
> > > > > > > Tri...@li...
> > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > --------------------
> > > > > > Timothy Burt
> > > > > > Internet Specialist
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Trinux-talk mailing list
> > > > > Tri...@li...
> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > --------------------
> > > > Timothy Burt
> > > > Internet Specialist
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Trinux-talk mailing list
> > > Tri...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk
> > >
> >
> > --
> > --------------------
> > Timothy Burt
> > Internet Specialist
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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--------------------
Timothy Burt
Internet Specialist

Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format

[<HHu...@t-...>]

Hallo, Richard,

Du meintest am 13.02.02 zum Thema Re: [Trinux-talk] Harddrive Format:

> Using cfdisk, I create a partition on the hard drive of type
> 'Linux'. Then I 'W'rite the partition table.

> I tried to mount the partition using the minix type. I get the
> error, "Too many filesystems, wrong partition, yada yada..."

Have you formatted the partition?

Maybe yoe need first a reboot after partitioning.
Maybe you should use "fdisk" or "sfdisk" instead of "cfdisk".

Viele Gruesse!
Helmut