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From: Rutger V. <rut...@gm...> - 2009-09-15 19:51:41
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Hi all, I think it would be handy to have a separate user on treebasedb-dev.nescent.org to (re)build the source and (re)launch a tomcat instance. This way, multiple developers can log in as that user (say, as to...@tr...) and keep things running if disaster strikes. We currently have this same functionality on 8ball by sharing Jin Ruan's login credentials, which is i) goofy; ii) waiting for an overactive sysadmin to delete that account. Thoughts? Rutger -- NOTE: I will soon lose my UBC email address, please start using my gmail address instead (rut...@gm...) Dr. Rutger A. Vos Department of zoology University of British Columbia http://www.nexml.org http://rutgervos.blogspot.com |
From: William P. <wil...@ya...> - 2009-09-12 17:44:28
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On Sep 11, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Hilmar Lapp wrote: > This sounds like the database is down. Or it is up but has been down > temporarily and so the connection handles in the pool have gotten > stale. You can take care of the latter by restarting the application > server (Tomcat, I presume). > > -hilmar The diagnosis (below) from Lucie. bp Begin forwarded message: > From: Lucie Chan <lc...@sd...> > Date: September 11, 2009 3:39:26 PM CDT > To: Mark Miller <mm...@ad...> > Cc: JD Bottorf <jd...@ad...> > Subject: Re: Fwd: 8ball TreeBASE Down > > Mark, > > The treebase web server is running on port 6666 on 8ball. The web > server > is up and running, but the database server it connects to is down. > > Just talked to Roger: treebase needs to point its database > connection to > bebop.sdsc.edu instead of gigahertz.sdsc.edu. This is as simple as > making 3 changes in the "jdbc.properties" file (username, password, > and > url), and rebuild and redeploy treebase-web. Unfortunately, I do not > have access to the files or the login info to bebop server, but > someone > (Mark Jason???) should be able to do it. They can contact me if they > need further information. > > Lucie |
From: Hilmar L. <hl...@du...> - 2009-09-11 15:55:15
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This sounds like the database is down. Or it is up but has been down temporarily and so the connection handles in the pool have gotten stale. You can take care of the latter by restarting the application server (Tomcat, I presume). -hilmar On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:21 AM, William Piel wrote: > > TreeBASE (http://8ball.sdsc.edu:6666/) seems to be down. Is this a > broken application service for SDSC staff to fix? > > Below is the result of a simple author search. > > bp > > > Could not open Hibernate Session for transaction; nested exception > is org.hibernate.exception.GenericJDBCException: Cannot open > connection > > org.springframework.transaction.CannotCreateTransactionException: > Could not open Hibernate Session for transaction; nested exception > is org.hibernate.exception.GenericJDBCException: Cannot open > connection Caused by: org.hibernate.exception.GenericJDBCException: > Cannot open connection at > org > .hibernate > .exception > .SQLStateConverter > .handledNonSpecificException(SQLStateConverter.java:103) at > org > .hibernate > .exception.SQLStateConverter.convert(SQLStateConverter.java:91) at > org > .hibernate > .exception.JDBCExceptionHelper.convert(JDBCExceptionHelper.java:43) > at > org > .hibernate > .exception.JDBCExceptionHelper.convert(JDBCExceptionHelper.java:29) > at > org > .hibernate > .jdbc.ConnectionManager.openConnection(ConnectionManager.java:426) > at > org > .hibernate > .jdbc.ConnectionManager.getConnection(ConnectionManager.java:144) at > org.hibernate.jdbc.JDBCContext.connection(JDBCContext.java:119) at > org.hibernate.transaction.JDBCTransaction.begin(JDBCTransaction.java: > 57) at > org.hibernate.impl.SessionImpl.beginTransaction(SessionImpl.java: > 1326) at > org > .springframework > .orm > .hibernate3 > .HibernateTransactionManager > .doBegin(HibernateTransactionManager.java:510) at > org > .springframework > .transaction > .support > .AbstractPlatformTransactionManager > .getTransaction(AbstractPlatformTransactionManager.java:350) at > org > .springframework > .transaction > .interceptor > .TransactionAspectSupport > .createTransactionIfNecessary(TransactionAspectSupport.java:262) at > org > .springframework > .transaction > .interceptor > .TransactionInterceptor.invoke(TransactionInterceptor.java:101) at > org > .springframework > .aop > .framework > .ReflectiveMethodInvocation.proceed(ReflectiveMethodInvocation.java: > 171) at > org > .springframework > .aop.framework.JdkDynamicAopProxy.invoke(JdkDynamicAopProxy.java: > 204) at $Proxy83.getStudyService(Unknown Source) at > org > .cipres > .treebase > .web > .controllers > .StudySearchController.doSearch(StudySearchController.java:276) at > org > .cipres > .treebase > .web > .controllers > .StudySearchController.onSubmit(StudySearchController.java:163) at > org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.SimpleFormController.processFormSubmission > (SimpleFormController.java:267) at org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.CancellableFormController.processFormSubmission > (CancellableFormController.java:140) at org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.AbstractFormController.handleRequestInternal > (AbstractFormController.java:265) at org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.AbstractController.handleRequest > (AbstractController.java:153) at org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.SimpleControllerHandlerAdapter.handle > (SimpleControllerHandlerAdapter.java:48) at org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet.doDispatch > (DispatcherServlet.java:858) at org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet.doService > (DispatcherServlet.java:792) at org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.processRequest > (FrameworkServlet.java:476) at org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.doPost > (FrameworkServlet.java:441) at > javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:710) at > javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:803) at > org > .apache > .catalina > .core > .ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: > 269) at > org > .apache > .catalina > .core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: > 188) at > org > .displaytag > .filter.ResponseOverrideFilter.doFilter(ResponseOverrideFilter.java: > 125) at > org > .apache > .catalina > .core > .ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: > 215) at > org > .apache > .catalina > .core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: > 188) at > org > .springframework > .orm > .hibernate3 > .support > .OpenSessionInViewFilter > .doFilterInternal(OpenSessionInViewFilter.java:198) at > org > .springframework > .web.filter.OncePerRequestFilter.doFilter(OncePerRequestFilter.java: > 75) at > org > .apache > .catalina > .core > .ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: > 215) at > org > .apache > .catalina > .core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: > 188) at > com > .opensymphony > .module.sitemesh.filter.PageFilter.parsePage(PageFilter.java:119) at > com > .opensymphony > .module.sitemesh.filter.PageFilter.doFilter(PageFilter.java:55) at > org > .apache > .catalina > .core > .ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: > 215) at > org > .apache > .catalina > .core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: > 188) at org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy > $VirtualFilterChain.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java:264) at > org > .acegisecurity > .intercept > .web.FilterSecurityInterceptor.invoke(FilterSecurityInterceptor.java: > 107) at org.acegisecurity.intercept.web.FilterSecurityInterceptor.doFilter > (FilterSecurityInterceptor.java:72) at > org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy > $VirtualFilterChain.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java:274) at > org > .acegisecurity > .ui > .ExceptionTranslationFilter.doFilter(ExceptionTranslationFilter.java: > 110) at org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy > $VirtualFilterChain.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java:274) at > org > .acegisecurity > .wrapper > .SecurityContextHolderAwareRequestFilter > .doFilter(SecurityContextHolderAwareRequestFilter.java:81) at > org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy > $VirtualFilterChain.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java:274) at > org > .acegisecurity > .ui.AbstractProcessingFilter.doFilter(AbstractProcessingFilter.java: > 217) at org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy > $VirtualFilterChain.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java:274) at > org > .acegisecurity > .context > .HttpSessionContextIntegrationFilter > .doFilter(HttpSessionContextIntegrationFilter.java:191) at > org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy > $VirtualFilterChain.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java:274) at > org > .acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java: > 148) at > org > .acegisecurity > .util.FilterToBeanProxy.doFilter(FilterToBeanProxy.java:90) at > org > .apache > .catalina > .core > .ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: > 215) at > org > .apache > .catalina > .core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: > 188) at > org > .apache > .catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java: > 213) at > org > .apache > .catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java: > 174) at > org > .apache > .catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:127) > at > org > .apache > .catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:117) > at > org > .apache > .catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java: > 108) at > org > .apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java: > 174) at > org > .apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java: > 874) at org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11BaseProtocol > $Http11ConnectionHandler.processConnection(Http11BaseProtocol.java: > 665) at > org > .apache > .tomcat.util.net.PoolTcpEndpoint.processSocket(PoolTcpEndpoint.java: > 528) at > org > .apache > .tomcat > .util > .net > .LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.runIt(LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.java: > 81) at org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool > $ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:689) at > java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595) Caused by: > java.sql.SQLException: Connections could not be acquired from the > underlying database! at > com.mchange.v2.sql.SqlUtils.toSQLException(SqlUtils.java:106) at > com > .mchange > .v2 > .c3p0 > .impl > .C3P0PooledConnectionPool > .checkoutPooledConnection(C3P0PooledConnectionPool.java:529) at > com > .mchange > .v2 > .c3p0 > .impl > .AbstractPoolBackedDataSource > .getConnection(AbstractPoolBackedDataSource.java:128) at > org > .springframework > .orm > .hibernate3 > .LocalDataSourceConnectionProvider > .getConnection(LocalDataSourceConnectionProvider.java:81) at > org > .hibernate > .jdbc.ConnectionManager.openConnection(ConnectionManager.java: > 423) ... 65 more Caused by: > com.mchange.v2.resourcepool.CannotAcquireResourceException: A > ResourcePool could not acquire a resource from its primary factory > or source. at > com > .mchange > .v2 > .resourcepool > .BasicResourcePool.awaitAvailable(BasicResourcePool.java:1319) at > com > .mchange > .v2 > .resourcepool > .BasicResourcePool.prelimCheckoutResource(BasicResourcePool.java: > 557) at > com > .mchange > .v2 > .resourcepool > .BasicResourcePool.checkoutResource(BasicResourcePool.java:477) at > com > .mchange > .v2 > .c3p0 > .impl > .C3P0PooledConnectionPool > .checkoutPooledConnection(C3P0PooledConnectionPool.java:525) ... 68 > more « Back > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ > Treebase-devel mailing list > Tre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel -- =========================================================== : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : =========================================================== |
From: William P. <wil...@ya...> - 2009-09-11 13:21:45
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TreeBASE (http://8ball.sdsc.edu:6666/) seems to be down. Is this a broken application service for SDSC staff to fix? Below is the result of a simple author search. bp Could not open Hibernate Session for transaction; nested exception is org.hibernate.exception.GenericJDBCException: Cannot open connection org.springframework.transaction.CannotCreateTransactionException: Could not open Hibernate Session for transaction; nested exception is org.hibernate.exception.GenericJDBCException: Cannot open connection Caused by: org.hibernate.exception.GenericJDBCException: Cannot open connection at org .hibernate .exception .SQLStateConverter.handledNonSpecificException(SQLStateConverter.java: 103) at org .hibernate.exception.SQLStateConverter.convert(SQLStateConverter.java: 91) at org .hibernate .exception.JDBCExceptionHelper.convert(JDBCExceptionHelper.java:43) at org .hibernate .exception.JDBCExceptionHelper.convert(JDBCExceptionHelper.java:29) at org .hibernate .jdbc.ConnectionManager.openConnection(ConnectionManager.java:426) at org .hibernate.jdbc.ConnectionManager.getConnection(ConnectionManager.java: 144) at org.hibernate.jdbc.JDBCContext.connection(JDBCContext.java: 119) at org.hibernate.transaction.JDBCTransaction.begin(JDBCTransaction.java: 57) at org.hibernate.impl.SessionImpl.beginTransaction(SessionImpl.java:1326) at org .springframework .orm .hibernate3 .HibernateTransactionManager.doBegin(HibernateTransactionManager.java: 510) at org .springframework .transaction .support .AbstractPlatformTransactionManager .getTransaction(AbstractPlatformTransactionManager.java:350) at org .springframework .transaction .interceptor .TransactionAspectSupport .createTransactionIfNecessary(TransactionAspectSupport.java:262) at org .springframework .transaction .interceptor.TransactionInterceptor.invoke(TransactionInterceptor.java: 101) at org .springframework .aop .framework .ReflectiveMethodInvocation.proceed(ReflectiveMethodInvocation.java: 171) at org .springframework .aop.framework.JdkDynamicAopProxy.invoke(JdkDynamicAopProxy.java:204) at $Proxy83.getStudyService(Unknown Source) at org.cipres.treebase.web.controllers.StudySearchController.doSearch (StudySearchController.java:276) at org.cipres.treebase.web.controllers.StudySearchController.onSubmit (StudySearchController.java:163) at org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.SimpleFormController.processFormSubmission (SimpleFormController.java:267) at org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.CancellableFormController.processFormSubmission (CancellableFormController.java:140) at org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.AbstractFormController.handleRequestInternal (AbstractFormController.java:265) at org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.AbstractController.handleRequest (AbstractController.java:153) at org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.SimpleControllerHandlerAdapter.handle (SimpleControllerHandlerAdapter.java:48) at org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet.doDispatch (DispatcherServlet.java:858) at org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet.doService (DispatcherServlet.java:792) at org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.processRequest (FrameworkServlet.java:476) at org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.doPost (FrameworkServlet.java:441) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:710) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:803) at org .apache .catalina .core .ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: 269) at org .apache .catalina .core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188) at org .displaytag .filter.ResponseOverrideFilter.doFilter(ResponseOverrideFilter.java: 125) at org .apache .catalina .core .ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: 215) at org .apache .catalina .core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188) at org .springframework .orm .hibernate3 .support .OpenSessionInViewFilter.doFilterInternal(OpenSessionInViewFilter.java: 198) at org .springframework .web.filter.OncePerRequestFilter.doFilter(OncePerRequestFilter.java: 75) at org .apache .catalina .core .ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: 215) at org .apache .catalina .core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188) at com .opensymphony .module.sitemesh.filter.PageFilter.parsePage(PageFilter.java:119) at com .opensymphony .module.sitemesh.filter.PageFilter.doFilter(PageFilter.java:55) at org .apache .catalina .core .ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: 215) at org .apache .catalina .core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188) at org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy $VirtualFilterChain.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java:264) at org .acegisecurity .intercept .web.FilterSecurityInterceptor.invoke(FilterSecurityInterceptor.java: 107) at org.acegisecurity.intercept.web.FilterSecurityInterceptor.doFilter (FilterSecurityInterceptor.java:72) at org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy $VirtualFilterChain.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java:274) at org .acegisecurity .ui .ExceptionTranslationFilter.doFilter(ExceptionTranslationFilter.java: 110) at org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy $VirtualFilterChain.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java:274) at org .acegisecurity .wrapper .SecurityContextHolderAwareRequestFilter .doFilter(SecurityContextHolderAwareRequestFilter.java:81) at org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy $VirtualFilterChain.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java:274) at org .acegisecurity .ui.AbstractProcessingFilter.doFilter(AbstractProcessingFilter.java: 217) at org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy $VirtualFilterChain.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java:274) at org .acegisecurity .context .HttpSessionContextIntegrationFilter .doFilter(HttpSessionContextIntegrationFilter.java:191) at org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy $VirtualFilterChain.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java:274) at org.acegisecurity.util.FilterChainProxy.doFilter(FilterChainProxy.java: 148) at org .acegisecurity.util.FilterToBeanProxy.doFilter(FilterToBeanProxy.java: 90) at org .apache .catalina .core .ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java: 215) at org .apache .catalina .core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188) at org .apache .catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java: 213) at org .apache .catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java: 174) at org .apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java: 127) at org .apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java: 117) at org .apache .catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java: 108) at org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java: 174) at org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java: 874) at org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11BaseProtocol $Http11ConnectionHandler.processConnection(Http11BaseProtocol.java: 665) at org .apache .tomcat.util.net.PoolTcpEndpoint.processSocket(PoolTcpEndpoint.java: 528) at org .apache .tomcat .util .net.LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.runIt(LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.java: 81) at org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool $ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:689) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595) Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: Connections could not be acquired from the underlying database! at com.mchange.v2.sql.SqlUtils.toSQLException(SqlUtils.java:106) at com .mchange .v2 .c3p0 .impl .C3P0PooledConnectionPool .checkoutPooledConnection(C3P0PooledConnectionPool.java:529) at com .mchange .v2 .c3p0 .impl .AbstractPoolBackedDataSource .getConnection(AbstractPoolBackedDataSource.java:128) at org .springframework .orm .hibernate3 .LocalDataSourceConnectionProvider .getConnection(LocalDataSourceConnectionProvider.java:81) at org .hibernate .jdbc.ConnectionManager.openConnection(ConnectionManager.java:423) ... 65 more Caused by: com.mchange.v2.resourcepool.CannotAcquireResourceException: A ResourcePool could not acquire a resource from its primary factory or source. at com .mchange .v2 .resourcepool.BasicResourcePool.awaitAvailable(BasicResourcePool.java: 1319) at com .mchange .v2 .resourcepool .BasicResourcePool.prelimCheckoutResource(BasicResourcePool.java:557) at com .mchange .v2 .resourcepool .BasicResourcePool.checkoutResource(BasicResourcePool.java:477) at com .mchange .v2 .c3p0 .impl .C3P0PooledConnectionPool .checkoutPooledConnection(C3P0PooledConnectionPool.java:525) ... 68 more « Back |
From: Mark D. <mj...@ge...> - 2009-09-08 17:42:43
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youjun guo wrote: > Thanks Mark, > > -jdbc.url=jdbc:postgresql://localhost/treebasedev You'll have to get Jon Auman to either permit remote database access for you, or set up an account on treebasedb-devel.nescent.org. |
From: youjun g. <you...@ya...> - 2009-09-08 17:39:02
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Thanks Mark, -jdbc.url=jdbc:postgresql://localhost/treebasedev I thought I can use it to connect to the TB database, and do some test from Yale. Maybe I should mirror a TB database locally. Youjun On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Mark Dominus <mj...@ge...>wrote: > youjun guo wrote: > >> Dear TreeBaser, >> >> I am trying to build the project from sourceforge repository, and need a >> copy of "jdbc.properties" file from the server. Could anyone send me a >> copy >> of this file? >> > > # This is treebase-core jdbc.properties > > jdbc.driverClassName=org.postgresql.Driver > > jdbc.username=xxx > jdbc.password=XXXXXXX > > > hibernate.dialect=org.hibernate.dialect.PostgreSQLDialect > > #for development only: > #hibernate.show_sql=true > #hibernate.format_sql=true > #hibernate.generate_statistics=true > #hibernate.use_sql_comments=true > > #options are: validate | update | create | create-drop > hibernate.hbm2ddl.auto= > > #Mesquite installation directory > mesquite.folder_dir=/home/mjd/Mesquite_Folder/ > |
From: Mark D. <mj...@ge...> - 2009-09-08 16:51:48
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youjun guo wrote: > Dear TreeBaser, > > I am trying to build the project from sourceforge repository, and need a > copy of "jdbc.properties" file from the server. Could anyone send me a copy > of this file? # This is treebase-core jdbc.properties jdbc.driverClassName=org.postgresql.Driver jdbc.url=jdbc:postgresql://localhost/treebasedev jdbc.username=xxx jdbc.password=XXXXXXX hibernate.dialect=org.hibernate.dialect.PostgreSQLDialect #for development only: #hibernate.show_sql=true #hibernate.format_sql=true #hibernate.generate_statistics=true #hibernate.use_sql_comments=true #options are: validate | update | create | create-drop hibernate.hbm2ddl.auto= #Mesquite installation directory mesquite.folder_dir=/home/mjd/Mesquite_Folder/ |
From: youjun g. <you...@ya...> - 2009-09-08 14:36:36
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Dear TreeBaser, I am trying to build the project from sourceforge repository, and need a copy of "jdbc.properties" file from the server. Could anyone send me a copy of this file? P.S. if I submit any testing data either through GUI or test suite will the data get into product database or developers' ? Thanks Youjun |
From: Hilmar L. <hl...@du...> - 2009-09-02 15:14:00
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Excellent, thanks Rutger! -hilmar On Sep 2, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Rutger Vos wrote: > I copied the maven repository: > > http://treebase.sourceforge.net/maven2/ > > The pom.xml files still need to be updated accordingly. > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Hilmar Lapp<hl...@du...> wrote: >> >> On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Rutger Vos wrote: >> >>> Do we prefer this be put on our sf.net web space or on >>> treebase-devel.nescent.org? >> >> Sf.net - should it not be close to the source? >> >>> In either case I need to figure out how to get shell access. >> >> https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Shell%20service >> >>> I have the passwords for sf.net but not for treebase-devel, which I >>> obviously >>> need. >> >> True - email help at nescent dot org. >> >> -hilmar >> >> -- >> =========================================================== >> : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : >> =========================================================== >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > NOTE: I will soon lose my UBC email address, please start using my > gmail address instead (rut...@gm...) > > Dr. Rutger A. Vos > Department of zoology > University of British Columbia > http://www.nexml.org > http://rutgervos.blogspot.com -- =========================================================== : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : =========================================================== |
From: Rutger V. <rut...@gm...> - 2009-09-02 15:01:38
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I copied the maven repository: http://treebase.sourceforge.net/maven2/ The pom.xml files still need to be updated accordingly. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Hilmar Lapp<hl...@du...> wrote: > > On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Rutger Vos wrote: > >> Do we prefer this be put on our sf.net web space or on >> treebase-devel.nescent.org? > > Sf.net - should it not be close to the source? > >> In either case I need to figure out how to get shell access. > > https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Shell%20service > >> I have the passwords for sf.net but not for treebase-devel, which I >> obviously >> need. > > True - email help at nescent dot org. > > -hilmar > > -- > =========================================================== > : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : > =========================================================== > > > > > -- NOTE: I will soon lose my UBC email address, please start using my gmail address instead (rut...@gm...) Dr. Rutger A. Vos Department of zoology University of British Columbia http://www.nexml.org http://rutgervos.blogspot.com |
From: Rutger V. <rut...@gm...> - 2009-09-01 18:13:09
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Yup, I re-set my password, I'm cooking on treebasedb-dev.nescent.org On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jon Auman<jon...@du...> wrote: > I've emailed Rutger with his login info to the NESCent server. > -Jon > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Jon Auman > Systems Administrator > National Evolutionary Synthesis Center > Duke University > http:www.nescent.org > jon...@ne... > ------------------------------------------------------ > > On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Hilmar Lapp wrote: > >> >> On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Rutger Vos wrote: >> >>> Do we prefer this be put on our sf.net web space or on treebase- >>> devel.nescent.org? >> >> Sf.net - should it not be close to the source? >> >>> In either case I need to figure out how to get shell access. >> >> https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Shell%20service >> >>> I have the passwords for sf.net but not for treebase-devel, which I >>> obviously >>> need. >> >> True - email help at nescent dot org. >> >> -hilmar >> >> -- >> =========================================================== >> : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : >> =========================================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 >> 30-Day >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and >> focus on >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july >> _______________________________________________ >> Treebase-devel mailing list >> Tre...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Treebase-devel mailing list > Tre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel > -- NOTE: I will soon lose my UBC email address, please start using my gmail address instead (rut...@gm...) Dr. Rutger A. Vos Department of zoology University of British Columbia http://www.nexml.org http://rutgervos.blogspot.com |
From: Jon A. <jon...@du...> - 2009-09-01 18:09:24
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I've emailed Rutger with his login info to the NESCent server. -Jon ------------------------------------------------------- Jon Auman Systems Administrator National Evolutionary Synthesis Center Duke University http:www.nescent.org jon...@ne... ------------------------------------------------------ On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Hilmar Lapp wrote: > > On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Rutger Vos wrote: > >> Do we prefer this be put on our sf.net web space or on treebase- >> devel.nescent.org? > > Sf.net - should it not be close to the source? > >> In either case I need to figure out how to get shell access. > > https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Shell%20service > >> I have the passwords for sf.net but not for treebase-devel, which I >> obviously >> need. > > True - email help at nescent dot org. > > -hilmar > > -- > =========================================================== > : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : > =========================================================== > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Treebase-devel mailing list > Tre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel |
From: Mark D. <mj...@ge...> - 2009-09-01 17:52:37
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Hilmar Lapp wrote: > If it is minimal > effort, why not just fix it? Because there are one million other outstanding tasks that also require minimal effort that are of higher priority. |
From: Hilmar L. <hl...@du...> - 2009-09-01 17:48:51
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On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Rutger Vos wrote: > Do we prefer this be put on our sf.net web space or on treebase- > devel.nescent.org? Sf.net - should it not be close to the source? > In either case I need to figure out how to get shell access. https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Shell%20service > I have the passwords for sf.net but not for treebase-devel, which I > obviously > need. True - email help at nescent dot org. -hilmar -- =========================================================== : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : =========================================================== |
From: Rutger V. <rut...@gm...> - 2009-09-01 17:38:16
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I can have a stab at it. I've set up a maven repository on my local machine in the past so I know more or less how to do it. Do we prefer this be put on our sf.net web space or on treebase-devel.nescent.org? In either case I need to figure out how to get shell access. I have the passwords for sf.net but not for treebase-devel, which I obviously need. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Val Tannen<va...@ci...> wrote: > Mark's plate is completely full for the next two weeks and > he is leaving the project on Sept 15. Maybe Rutger can do it. > Val > > > > On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Hilmar Lapp wrote: > >> >> On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Mark Dominus wrote: >> >>> The repository should be migrated elsewhere. Actually migrating it >>> is >>> a relatively low priority >> >> >> I don't quite understand - is there a technical difficulty to >> migrating it? Would this be more than minimal effort? If it is minimal >> effort, why not just fix it? We have web project space on Sf.net that >> is up to us for how we use it (right now we don't). >> >> -hilmar >> -- >> =========================================================== >> : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : >> =========================================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 >> 30-Day >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and >> focus on >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july >> _______________________________________________ >> Treebase-devel mailing list >> Tre...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Treebase-devel mailing list > Tre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel > -- NOTE: I will soon lose my UBC email address, please start using my gmail address instead (rut...@gm...) Dr. Rutger A. Vos Department of zoology University of British Columbia http://www.nexml.org http://rutgervos.blogspot.com |
From: Val T. <va...@ci...> - 2009-09-01 17:28:33
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Mark's plate is completely full for the next two weeks and he is leaving the project on Sept 15. Maybe Rutger can do it. Val On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Hilmar Lapp wrote: > > On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Mark Dominus wrote: > >> The repository should be migrated elsewhere. Actually migrating it >> is >> a relatively low priority > > > I don't quite understand - is there a technical difficulty to > migrating it? Would this be more than minimal effort? If it is minimal > effort, why not just fix it? We have web project space on Sf.net that > is up to us for how we use it (right now we don't). > > -hilmar > -- > =========================================================== > : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : > =========================================================== > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Treebase-devel mailing list > Tre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel |
From: Hilmar L. <hl...@du...> - 2009-09-01 17:02:11
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On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Mark Dominus wrote: > The repository should be migrated elsewhere. Actually migrating it > is > a relatively low priority I don't quite understand - is there a technical difficulty to migrating it? Would this be more than minimal effort? If it is minimal effort, why not just fix it? We have web project space on Sf.net that is up to us for how we use it (right now we don't). -hilmar -- =========================================================== : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : =========================================================== |
From: youjun g. <you...@ya...> - 2009-09-01 16:05:27
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Actually migrating it is a relatively low priority -I agree. I ask this question because it looks to me the SDSC repository is not only for TreeBase. So it will keep running even after migration. _Y > |
From: Mark D. <mj...@ge...> - 2009-09-01 15:45:11
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youjun guo wrote: > Right now a major > repository is hosted by SDSC server. My question is : should we still have > that maven facility after migration of the project? > The repository should be migrated elsewhere. Actually migrating it is a relatively low priority, because all the necessary libraries are archived in many places, including treebasedb-devel.nescent.org. If the SDSC repository suddenly vanishes, we will still have all the materials required to reconstruct the repository. |
From: youjun g. <you...@ya...> - 2009-09-01 15:36:57
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Right now, TreeBase's Maven configuration (pom.xml) point its repository to SDSC server, It need to be set up this way, otherwise the code won't compile, I guess. _Y On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Hilmar Lapp <hl...@du...> wrote: > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 8:02 PM, youjun guo wrote: > > Right now, TreeBase's Maven configuration (pom.xml) point its repository >> to SDSC server, and those dependent jars are not include in the source. >> > > This sounds like a bug. Can you add that to the tracker? > > I don't know if anyone ever set up a replacement Maven repository either >> through NESCent or sourceforge facility. >> > > I don't know either. I would have thought at Sf.net, and that Rutger did > that. It surely doesn't belong at NESCent. > > -hilmar > > -- > =========================================================== > : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : > =========================================================== > > > > > |
From: Hilmar L. <hl...@du...> - 2009-09-01 03:31:19
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On Aug 31, 2009, at 8:02 PM, youjun guo wrote: > Right now, TreeBase's Maven configuration (pom.xml) point its > repository to SDSC server, and those dependent jars are not include > in the source. This sounds like a bug. Can you add that to the tracker? > I don't know if anyone ever set up a replacement Maven repository > either through NESCent or sourceforge facility. I don't know either. I would have thought at Sf.net, and that Rutger did that. It surely doesn't belong at NESCent. -hilmar -- =========================================================== : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : =========================================================== |
From: youjun g. <you...@ya...> - 2009-09-01 00:02:58
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Thanks Piel, I think we all agree Maven's advantages over some other tools like Ant. Especially currently Treebase already set up on Maven. It will cause difficulties if we lost it. Unless any of you have different thoughts about keeping Maven, then we can discuss about the topic in detail. Right now, TreeBase's Maven configuration (pom.xml) point its repository to SDSC server, and those dependent jars are not include in the source. I don't know if anyone ever set up a replacement Maven repository either through NESCent or sourceforge facility. Youjun On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:38 PM, William Piel <wil...@ya...> wrote: > > I think Youjun had noticed some dependencies (e.g. Mesquite code) on SDSC's > Maven but not on sourceforge. He also identified some advantages of Maven > and thought it would be worth having Maven moved to NESCent. Youjun: do you > want to make a case for these advantages? > bp > > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Val Tannen wrote: > > So maybe it was already done by Rutger.Val > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Hilmar Lapp wrote: > > Val - that's the maven repository for the source code. I think this needs > to be moved to SourceForge, no? > -hilmar > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Val Tannen wrote: > > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:49 PM, youjun guo wrote: > > Dear TreeBasers; > > TreeBase is using maven2 as its project management tool. Right now a major > repository is hosted by SDSC server. My question is : should we still have > that maven facility after migration of the project? > > > Er, ... not at SDSC, no. The current situation is that the data has already > been moved to NesCENT in the form of some special files > that are currently being loaded into PostgeSQL and the software is in > SourceForge. We haven't yet given the SDSC folks green light to delete the > files > there because we want to wait until the app runs correctly at NesCENT. > Before we give them the delete all message we should have the project > management also at NesCENT. Youjun, are you volunteering to move the maven > repository to NesCENT :)? > > Val > > > > > > Thanks > > Youjun > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ > Treebase-devel mailing list > Tre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ > Treebase-devel mailing list > Tre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel > > > -- > =========================================================== > : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : > =========================================================== > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ > Treebase-devel mailing list > Tre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Treebase-devel mailing list > Tre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel > > |
From: William P. <wil...@ya...> - 2009-08-31 20:38:38
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I think Youjun had noticed some dependencies (e.g. Mesquite code) on SDSC's Maven but not on sourceforge. He also identified some advantages of Maven and thought it would be worth having Maven moved to NESCent. Youjun: do you want to make a case for these advantages? bp On Aug 31, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Val Tannen wrote: > So maybe it was already done by Rutger. > Val > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Hilmar Lapp wrote: > >> Val - that's the maven repository for the source code. I think this >> needs to be moved to SourceForge, no? >> >> -hilmar >> >> On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Val Tannen wrote: >> >>> >>> On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:49 PM, youjun guo wrote: >>> >>>> Dear TreeBasers; >>>> >>>> TreeBase is using maven2 as its project management tool. Right >>>> now a major repository is hosted by SDSC server. My question is : >>>> should we still have that maven facility after migration of the >>>> project? >>> >>> Er, ... not at SDSC, no. The current situation is that the data >>> has already been moved to NesCENT in the form of some special files >>> that are currently being loaded into PostgeSQL and the software is >>> in SourceForge. We haven't yet given the SDSC folks green light to >>> delete the files >>> there because we want to wait until the app runs correctly at >>> NesCENT. Before we give them the delete all message we should have >>> the project >>> management also at NesCENT. Youjun, are you volunteering to move >>> the maven repository to NesCENT :)? >>> >>> Val >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Youjun >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports >>>> 2008 30-Day >>>> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - >>>> and focus on >>>> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >>>> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ >>>> Treebase-devel mailing list >>>> Tre...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports >>> 2008 30-Day >>> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - >>> and focus on >>> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >>> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ >>> Treebase-devel mailing list >>> Tre...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel >> >> -- >> =========================================================== >> : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : >> =========================================================== >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ > Treebase-devel mailing list > Tre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel |
From: Val T. <va...@ci...> - 2009-08-31 20:00:31
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So maybe it was already done by Rutger. Val On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Hilmar Lapp wrote: > Val - that's the maven repository for the source code. I think this > needs to be moved to SourceForge, no? > > -hilmar > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Val Tannen wrote: > >> >> On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:49 PM, youjun guo wrote: >> >>> Dear TreeBasers; >>> >>> TreeBase is using maven2 as its project management tool. Right now >>> a major repository is hosted by SDSC server. My question is : >>> should we still have that maven facility after migration of the >>> project? >> >> Er, ... not at SDSC, no. The current situation is that the data has >> already been moved to NesCENT in the form of some special files >> that are currently being loaded into PostgeSQL and the software is >> in SourceForge. We haven't yet given the SDSC folks green light to >> delete the files >> there because we want to wait until the app runs correctly at >> NesCENT. Before we give them the delete all message we should have >> the project >> management also at NesCENT. Youjun, are you volunteering to move >> the maven repository to NesCENT :)? >> >> Val >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Youjun >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports >>> 2008 30-Day >>> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - >>> and focus on >>> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >>> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ >>> Treebase-devel mailing list >>> Tre...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports >> 2008 30-Day >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - >> and focus on >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ >> Treebase-devel mailing list >> Tre...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel > > -- > =========================================================== > : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : > =========================================================== > > > > |
From: Hilmar L. <hl...@du...> - 2009-08-31 19:54:59
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Val - that's the maven repository for the source code. I think this needs to be moved to SourceForge, no? -hilmar On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Val Tannen wrote: > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:49 PM, youjun guo wrote: > >> Dear TreeBasers; >> >> TreeBase is using maven2 as its project management tool. Right now >> a major repository is hosted by SDSC server. My question is : >> should we still have that maven facility after migration of the >> project? > > Er, ... not at SDSC, no. The current situation is that the data has > already been moved to NesCENT in the form of some special files > that are currently being loaded into PostgeSQL and the software is > in SourceForge. We haven't yet given the SDSC folks green light to > delete the files > there because we want to wait until the app runs correctly at > NesCENT. Before we give them the delete all message we should have > the project > management also at NesCENT. Youjun, are you volunteering to move the > maven repository to NesCENT :)? > > Val > > > > >> >> Thanks >> >> Youjun >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports >> 2008 30-Day >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - >> and focus on >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ >> Treebase-devel mailing list >> Tre...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july_______________________________________________ > Treebase-devel mailing list > Tre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/treebase-devel -- =========================================================== : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- hlapp at duke dot edu : =========================================================== |