Re: [Tile-dev] Nooby support here?

[Ken T. <ken...@gm...>]

Ken Tilton wrote:

> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>> Sorry if this is the wrong place, and feel free to redirect...
>>
>> This is Tcl85 on win32. I am trying the quick-dirty way to switch to 
>> Tile: Just Load It.
>>
>> What I did was place Tile078 in my Tcl tree like this:
>>
>> \Tcl\lib\Tile....
>>
>> when I do the wish thing, all goes well, the stuff I build 
>> interactively comes up with widgets that match the widgets in the 
>> Display control panel as I switch XP themes.
>>
>> But I am driving Tcl/Tk from Lisp (via the C API).
>>
>> the window matches the current XP theme, but not the widgets. The 
>> scrollbars are the real giveaway.
>>
>> wish seemed to get into Tile without any help, but I guess I have to 
>> give Tk a nudge. Reasonable enough. But what is the nudge? the doc says:
>>
>> "If you're feeling adventurous, you can try:
>>
>>    namespace import ttk::*"
>>
>> That does not work, and neither does the alternative, specifying 
>> "ttk::button", eg. The error is something like "no such namespace"
>>
>> Damn, I am exhausted, it just occurred to me to search the archives 
>> here and use Google. :( Will commence that now, but any help on 
>> getting Tile into play using just the C API (and not talking to a 
>> wish process via a pipe) would be appreciated.
>
>
> OK, got this much:
>
>  (tk-format-now "package require tile") ;; <-- oops, needed this
>  (tk-format-now "namespace import -force ttk::*")
>
> I have the -force (which I saw described as a bad idea) because 
> without it I got "label already exists" or something to that effect.
>
> Now I get -pady is an invalid option. Understood, but some doc I saw 
> said all options were supported for setting and querying though 
> otherwise inoperative just to make exercises such as mine (switching 
> to Tile in two minutes) feasible. Not so?
>
> Still googling....

OK, I broke down and defeated all the inappropriate options, did a 
setTheme to xpnative, and voila, it all works. Way cool. But... was 
there an easier way?

Two other questions:

  1. should I worry about that -force option?
  2. Looking at the themes listed here 
http://tktable.sourceforge.net/tile/index.html i do not see anything 
that cries out "OS X native aqua"

I'll continue googling for #2

ken