Re: [Tile-dev] a tale of 2 trees

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

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Jeff Hobbs wrote:
> Csaba Nemethi wrote:
>> Jeff Hobbs schrieb:
>>> Your points are in general correct, but overlook the direct remarks I
>>> made below.  Those features are certainly required for a decent dir 
>>> browser, but they are necessary for many other type of apps as well. 
>>> The lack of these in treeview is why people have turned to pure Tcl 
>>> alternatives even when treeview was available.  If you want to look at 
>>> treeview as a multicolumn listbox, then it really fails in 2 areas - no 
>>> x scrolling and the inability to control stretch/shrink of columns.  Joe 
>>> has said he likely won't have the time to address these before 8.5.0, 
>>> and thus I don't think it serves the core much to distract with the 
>>> treeview.
> 
>> While I generally agree with your criticism concerning the current 
>> development state of the treeview widget, I would have a quite serious 
>> problem if treeview wouldn't be integrated into the core.  The reason is 
>> that in the tile-enabled version of Tablelist I make use of some 
>> treeview-related elements, like Treeheading.border and Treeheading.cell.
> 
> While this is an interesting aspect, it is not strictly in favor of the
> treeview.  It is perhaps possible to have the elements without the widget.
> 
>> Also, your intention (decision?) to exclude treeview from the core 
>> doesn't take into account that there are quite a few people who already 
>> use treeview (in spite of its relatively early development state). 
>> After all, this wouldn't be the first widget in the core whose early 
>> versions are not yet quite satisfactory.
> 
> Please identify these people.  That is what I had hoped this discussion would
> do - flush out users of treeview to advocate that they are perfectly happy
> using it for X, Y and Z.  On the contrary, I have received only more
> *negative* indicators.  I am still open either way, but I have been pushed
> farther against in the last few days without anybody really advocating for on
> core widget value.
> 
> Jeff
> 

I think Csaba's point is well-taken.

I don't use the Tile treeview, but I do use tablelist_tile in all of my
applications. If removing treeview altogether will break tablelist_tile,
then that is an area of concern for me. It would certainly keep me from
upgrading my apps to 8.5, unless Csaba found a way to implement the
tablelist_tile bindings via other means. My guess is that there are
probably more developers using tablelist_tile instead of treeview.

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Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
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