Re: [Tiki-devel] October RoundTable meeting

[Bernard S. <me...@bs...>]

Running out of time and will be able to update the TRM page (https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2017-10) not before Sunday.

Someone can link to the recording so people interested in the meeting content can hear and see ?

Thanks

> On 20 Oct 2017, at 09:37 , Bernard Sfez <me...@bs...> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your time Gary and IMPORTANT corrections !
> 
>> On 20 Oct 2017, at 07:02 , Gary Cunningham-Lee <ga...@cu...> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> A few comments inline below.
>> 
>> On 10/20/2017 1:10 AM, Bernard Sfez wrote:
>>> Hello Tikiers,
>>> Here a short summary of our monthly Tiki Roundtable Meeting (or TRM as luci taught us). :)
>>> - Branching date is the 16/11/2017 (November TRM).
>>> So please commit and/or complete your current improvement, modification and task on Tiki so we are able to test and fix regressions after branching without having new stuff committed.
>>> - Release should happen early December so we have enough time to fix critical bugs and regressions before Christmas.
>>> - The Japan TikiFest was a great one, a lot of commit and the community wish to thanks Mr. and Mrs Gary for their hospitality and kindness.
>> 
>> We enjoyed it too and would be open to having another some time in the future.
>> 
>>> - Bootstrap 4 will be implemented gradually and will be finalized somewhere between Tiki 19 to Tiki 20 (Tiki 21 is our next lts).
>>> It will be possible to maintain Bootstrap 3 themes in Tiki 18 so people will have plenty of time to prepare their transition.
>>> Beside they are tools to run both bootstrap classes together.
>> 
>> About your last sentence, my connection to the meeting was kind of off and on, so probably my comments about this weren't clear. But I don't think it would be practical to try to combine Bootstrap 3 and 4 in any way, in a Tiki release or site, just to clarify.
>> 
>> Some of the CSS changes are significant enough that it would be a pretty huge job to "map" old theme classes to Bootstrap 4 classes in the HTML, and a lot of CSS has changed.
>> 
>> In Bootstrap 4, there are also HTML differences such as new navbar construction, new HTML for tabs, and so on that would cause trouble for Bootstrap 3 themes.
>> 
>> I don't think it will be a huge task to update a theme from Bootstrap 3 to 4, once things finalize (Bootstrap beta 2 was just released). A bigger challenge might be updating site content, if it uses floating to position things, since this is replaced with Flexbox. But there could be custom CSS for this.
>> 
>> -- Gary
>> 
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