Re: [Tiki-devel] SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[52148] branches/13.x/styles/bootswatch_themes.css

[Lester C. <le...@ls...>]

On 29/07/14 09:11, Gary Cunningham-Lee wrote:
> Of course a lighter-weight framework is possible but our objective was
> to go with a popular and familiar framework, to ease the learning curve
> and process of styling Tiki. What my post was about was the problem of
> loading essentially two bootstrap.css files, which would be excessive,
> even for Tiki ;-) .

bootstrap may be 'popular', but it's certainly not 'developer friendly'
and there is no way it is an easy learning curve unless you are just
using a stock theme. It has perhaps had too much hype, and all I am
saying is perhaps it's time that that there was a proper look at
alternatives. A bit like git really, everybody follows the bandwagon
without bother to question if it really is the right way forward :(

> -- Gary
> 
> On 7/29/2014 3:19 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
>> On 29/07/14 06:07, Gary Cunningham-Lee wrote:
>>> bootswatch_themes.css isn't meant to be a stand-alone theme; it was just
>>> meant to be a means of organizing all the Bootswatch themes together in
>>> styles/bootswatch_themes/options/ rather than having them sprinkled
>>> through the other theme files. The problem with having the correct path
>>> is that now bootstrap.css is loaded twice - once in its default form and
>>> once as the Bootswatch variant. This adds over 100kb to the site display
>>> file transfers.
>>
>> The reality here is that bootstrap is simply a very bad design?
>> While the way it works is to be commended, the sheer size of the .css
>> and that fact that it is essentially 'flat' does not lend itself to
>> making elements of the style selectable. Switching to 'less' or one of
>> the other css compilers may allow a means of tailoring colours, sizes
>> and other aspects, but is 100kb+ really necessary? Personally I've
>> hacked my version so I can get back nice coloured icons and make the
>> base font selectable, but in general fine tuning a bootstrap theme is a
>> time consuming exercise and I'm sure that there is a much easier way to
>> create a responsive frame on which to build selectable themes?

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