From: Gary Cunningham-L. <ga...@cu...> - 2011-08-27 03:37:52
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Hi, Using Firefox's Firebug add-on, the computed font size (result of all relevant rules, for text in center column) is 12px at tiki.org using the Fivealive theme, 12.8px at Wikipedia, and, for a few more comparisons, 13px at aarp.org (organization formerly known as Association for the Advancement of Retired People), arstechnica.com, and drupal.org, 13.4px at Google News, 14px at cnn.com, and 14.4px at the US Social Security Administration site. So it appears Tiki's Fivealive is in the pack but at the small end of it. I haven't seen other reports about Tiki's font size being too small since we bumped it up from the teeny tiny text of the Tikineat days, but maybe we should look at increasing the default size a little (possibly due to the trend toward higher-resolution displays as well as users aging). At the same time it would be good to simply the font size rules in Tiki along with other complexity stemming from the multiple stylesheet files so changing things like font size is more straightforward. You can use html>body{font-size: .85em;} (I added it in the L&F custom CSS textarea) and this increases Fivealive's computed font size to 13.6px. To clarify about Torsten's suggestion, *:first-child+html body is a hack to target IE7 only so shouldn't be necessary since IE7 also recognizes html>body. Fivealive doesn't have its own heading size rules, but just uses the sizes imported from lite.css. Offhand in Firebug I see h1 is 2.4em and h3 (module titles) is 1.8em. You can add rules to override these, like h3 {font-size: 1.3em;} or whatever. All the headings, h1 through h4 at least should be adjusted in a sequence, if any are. (Rick also commented in the past that Fivealive's module titles seem to big relative to the text size, but this is what the designer designed and people in general apparently accept it as the look of the theme. Of course if it looks "right" or not is an aesthetic judgement and anyone can make adjustments for their own site.) -- Gary On 27/08/2011 00:38, Desilets, Alain wrote: > Actually, the font in fivealive is definitely smaller on my other screen. Dunno why they looked the same size on my other laptop. > > To allow better comparison, I attach two screenshots, one of a fivealive site, and one of Wikipedia. If you open both images, you will see that normal text on Wikipedia is definitely larger than on the fivealive site. > > Am I the only one who finds this to be the case? > > Alain > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Desilets, Alain > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Tiki developers > Subject: RE: [Tiki-devel] Increase font size in fivealive theme > > Interesting... > > I always felt that the font used for normal text in Fivealive was much smaller than what is used on most web sites, to the point of looking non professional. > > But now that you point this out, I went to sites like Google, Wikipedia, Yahoo, and I see that you are absolutely right. They use about the same size of font for the normal text. > > I wonder what was the source of that perception... > > I think it may have to do with the DIFFERENCE of size between normal text and headers. In Fivealive, this difference is much more pronounced than in other web sites. > > How would I go about making this difference smaller? > > Alain > ________________________________________ > From: Gary Cunningham-Lee [ga...@cu...] > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:01 PM > To: Tiki developers > Subject: Re: [Tiki-devel] Increase font size in fivealive theme > > Hi, > > Fivealive's font size is more or less standard for the Web. Users who have trouble reading text should also know they can increase the font size or even zoom the whole page with a menu item in their browser. > > -- Gary > > > On 25/08/2011 23:38, Desilets, Alain wrote: > What's the easiest way to override the default font for the body of a given theme? > > I use the fivealive theme a lot, but the size of the font for most items is ridiculously small for a 40+ year old ;-). > > Thx > > Alain > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K > The only unified storage solution that offers unified management > Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. > Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > TikiWiki-devel mailing list > Tik...@li...<mailto:Tik...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tikiwiki-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K > The only unified storage solution that offers unified management > Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. > Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev > > > _______________________________________________ > TikiWiki-devel mailing list > Tik...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tikiwiki-devel |