[Thinstation-general] RE: Thinstation-Thanks Miles!

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I completely agree that the docs needs a LOT of additions. The
thinstation docs has been around for about ~two weeks, so it is early
versions so far.

I would LOVE to get info submitted especially about successful solutions!

I have just returned from a night in a bar (it is 2+ am here, which may
excuse spelling errors :-) with a computer friend. We agreed the best
way to promote Thinstation would be to hack slashdot and plant a fake
but honest editorial on its frontpage :-)

Ok, jokes aside - plz submit questions WITH solution. 

Running Thinstation is NOT that simple. You DO need to know about DHCP
and TFTP servers  - windows or linux. You DO need to know about
Etherboot/PXE etc. We can't make it any easier. To the best of my
knowledge both the DHCP and the TFTP server must be on the local subnet
ruling out a WAN-only solution. However if you do know just a little
about networking, you should be ok. More and better docs will help!

I do agree that a prebuild ICA solution would be great if "we" (aka
Miles :-) can solve the EULA display problem. This would attract a lot
of customers. 

Mike

> Hi Brian,
> 
> Help with the docs would be great :o)
> 
> We have a small team, I'm pretty much the developer, Mike is the FAQ/Doc
> maintainer, Paolo is the web designer.
> 
> Corrdinate with Mike on any doc updates and what needs doing :o)  here
that
> mike :o)
> 
> CD-ROM is an option but has a couple of sticking points, namely config
> files, currently with a TFTP image that is very maintainable, CD-ROM will
> mean you need one different CDROM per machine that has a slighly different
> build.  Ideas to make this work anyone?
> 
> On the topic of spreading the word, who wants to do this, Paolo, you
> mentioned something I think?  Anyone want to take ownership, ie a PR role?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Miles
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian McMullan [mailto:bm...@qu...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2003 04:03 p.m.
> To: mr...@we...
> Subject: Thinstation-Thanks Miles!
> 
> 
> Miles,
> 
> I wanted to say "THANKS" for thinstation - I think the potential is
enormous
> and the concept "great".  
> 
> I've read in a few posts about how you all want to "evangelize" or
"get the
> word out" about thinstation.  A few thoughts about that...
> 
> Who do you believe the target audience is / users are?
> 
> I'd say one eager group will be your low linux skilled corporate types,
> those running Citrix farms and who want to reuse old hardware quickly and
> effectively.  
> 
> Why?  Because alternatives are: ICADOS, which doesn't do it - 256 color
> limitation primarily.  ICA under barebones Win98 doesn't do it either
> -mostly due to keyboard intercept issues (eg ctrl-alt-del in ICA session
> reboots Win9x underneath), but also licensing and maintenance.
> 
> But, and I'll be as gentle as possible; majority of corporate types aren't
> going to look very hard at thinstation because they have little to no
linux
> skills.  The things you guys take for granted are WAY over the heads
of most
> folks - me included!  I've really had to dig in to even get the "build
with
> ICA" constructed; I'm talking hours here.
> 
> So, IF you are after that corporate audience, then the documentation
has got
> to get a lot more detailed, with screenshots, etc and be very
explicit, step
> by step.  I'll be glad to help there if you want me to, because I'm taking
> copious notes along the way and am "an idiot on linux", pretty much like
> your target audience.  
> 
> Also, an option to build the image on a CD-ROM boot disk is definately
> needed.  Most corporate types have WANS with slow links supporting
unskilled
> people.  That's why Citrix was implemented - to get rid of the PCs and
> configuration issues.  WAN sites OFTEN don't have servers, only client
> stations - like Neoware, ChipPC, Wyse, etc.  To force a TFTP load on them
> instantly alienates a large percentage of potential adopters.  Eg, one
of my
> sites has a main office (servers) with 60 people, and 15 remotes with
> anywhere from 3 to 20 people.  No servers at remotes and 128K to 256Kb
> frame-relay or VPN connectivity.  So, there's a big need for a "stick
the CD
> in and go" kind of configuration...
> 
> I hope this is at least somewhat valuable to you.  Like I said, I
think this
> has a lot of potential and you guys deserve tons of credit - but there
is a
> big gap between thinstation and the corporate audience.  To close that gap
> is important to thinstations adoption rate.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Miles Roper <mr...@we...>
> Date:  Tue, 20 May 2003 14:40:46 +1200
> 
> hi brian,
> 
> tell me what conifguration parameters you want for ICA and I can add them
> in.
> 
> publish application I think is a bit more complex, will get back to you on
> that.
> 
> you can always hack the config files yourself, they reside in
> packages/ica/lib/ICAClient/config
> 
> cheers
> 
> Miles
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian McMullan [mailto:bm...@cu...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2003 01:47 a.m.
> To: thi...@li...
> Subject: [Thinstation-general] ICA Session - published application?
> 
> 
> Ok, being a total Linux newbie, it took me quite a while to get an ICA
> session included in the thinstation.nbi file.  But, now it's working. 
> 
> However, I need to connect to a "Published Application" versus a
> specific server.  Is there a way to do that? 
> 
> And, after that question - is there a way to specify the other WFCLIENT
> information like key mappings, full screen vs size, etc? 
> 
> In the .conf file (from the sample) I have 
> 
> SESSION_0_TYPE="ica" 
> SESSION_0_SERVER=ica 
> SESSION_0_OPTIONS= 
> 
> ICA_ENCRIPTION=Basic    <=== and should that really be ENCRYPTION? 
> ICA_COMPRESS=On 
> ICA_AUDIO=On 
> ICA_INITIAL_PROGRAM="{specific server name}" 
> # using the "{Published Application name}" doesn't work 
> ICA_KEYBOARD="(Server Default)" 
> 
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