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From: Miles R. <mr...@we...> - 2004-07-22 22:02:15
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as mentioned in previous email, not in short term, I've several things I'm working on at present, I'll put in down for sometime during 2.2 or 3.0 release cycle. unless either of the previously stipulated events occur. -----Original Message----- From: John Leschorn [mailto:jle...@bu...] Sent: Friday, 23 July 2004 09:37 a.m. To: thi...@li... Subject: [Thinstation-general] RE: Thinstation-general digest, Vol 1 #656 - 1 msg Miles, The client side is free and it can be Downloaded from their site. www.thinprint.com, would you mind seeing if it can be added to a thinclient build reasonably easily. It looks like it may make Thinstation more competitive with the commercial thin terminals. Thanks, John T. Leschorn Systems Engineer Business Advantage Systems & Networks -----Original Message----- From: thi...@li... [mailto:thi...@li...] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 4:33 PM To: thi...@li... Subject: Thinstation-general digest, Vol 1 #656 - 1 msg Send Thinstation-general mailing list submissions to thi...@li... To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/thinstation-general or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thi...@li... You can reach the person managing the list at thi...@li... When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thinstation-general digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Support for ThinPrint Software (Miles Roper) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Miles Roper <mr...@we...> To: 'John Leschorn' <jle...@bu...>, thi...@li... Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] Support for ThinPrint Software Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:32:36 +1200 never heard of it, looks commercial, is it free? not going to happen in short term, unless: someone sponsors me to do it somone creates the package and sends it to me. -----Original Message----- From: John Leschorn [mailto:jle...@bu...] Sent: Friday, 23 July 2004 09:10 a.m. To: thi...@li... Subject: [Thinstation-general] Support for ThinPrint Software Does thinstation natively support the Thinprint software, many thinclient terminals do. www.thinprint.com John T. Leschorn Systems Engineer Business Advantage Systems & Networks -----Original Message----- From: thi...@li... [mailto:thi...@li...] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:37 PM To: thi...@li... Subject: Thinstation-general digest, Vol 1 #654 - 6 msgs Send Thinstation-general mailing list submissions to thi...@li... To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/thinstation-general or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thi...@li... You can reach the person managing the list at thi...@li... When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thinstation-general digest..." Today's Topics: 1. rdesktop problem (kapil arora) 2. RE: The structure of ts.conf.buildtime (Miles Roper) 3. RE: The structure of ts.conf.buildtime (Miles Roper) 4. Re: rdesktop problem (Jason) 5. Elo Entuitive 1525C 15" CRT Desktop Touchmonitor (Ganchev, Stefan) 6. RE: The structure of ts.conf.buildtime (Mike Eriksen) -- __--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:22:23 -0700 (PDT) From: kapil arora <kap...@ya...> To: thi...@li... Subject: [Thinstation-general] rdesktop problem --0-545682747-1090470143=:32236 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hello all, i m using via clients and thinstation 1.1 prebuilt nbi image to boot my clients i m using that tftpd server that comes with thinstation package and win 2003 server everything goes fine client boots normally but after booting no login prompt comes on the client screen only some flickering lines appear on the screen i can see the client connected on the server with winlogon.exe running on the client Please help me out thnks in advance regards kapil --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! --0-545682747-1090470143=:32236 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <DIV>hello all,</DIV> <DIV>i m using via clients and thinstation 1.1 prebuilt nbi image to boot my clients</DIV> <DIV>i m using that tftpd server that comes with thinstation package and win 2003 server</DIV> <DIV>everything goes fine client boots normally</DIV> <DIV>but after booting no login prompt comes on the client screen only some flickering lines appear on the screen</DIV> <DIV>i can see the client connected on the server with winlogon.exe running on the client</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Please help me out</DIV> <DIV>thnks in advance</DIV> <DIV>regards</DIV> <DIV>kapil</DIV><p> <hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a href="http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/yahoo/votelifeengine/">Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign!</a> --0-545682747-1090470143=:32236-- -- __--__-- Message: 2 From: Miles Roper <mr...@we...> To: 'Mike Eriksen' <km...@ma...> Cc: thi...@li... Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:44:53 +1200 perfect, included in 2.1, do you want to include it in 2.0.2? -----Original Message----- From: Mike Eriksen [mailto:km...@ma...] Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2004 05:58 a.m. To: Miles Roper Cc: thi...@li... Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Miles Roper wrote: > > hi, > > ok this looks pretty good. > > just one point, the ica examples are above the ica descriptions, not below. > do you think this could be confusing? Hmmm, well, yes I guess you are right. They should be put back in front. > the same goes for > > # Default Settings for all sessions > > SCREEN=0 > WORKSPACE=1 > AUTOSTART=On > > these arn't explained until you get down further. could be confusing. > thoughts? Well, yes and no. These are short versions of the SESSION ones, and I'm not convinced this is obvious to newcomers. How about an explanation in both places? I've attached an updated ts.conf.example with these changes. It also has quiet a few other ones. Feel free to comment everyone. Mike > Cheers > > Miles > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Eriksen [mailto:km...@ma...] > Sent: Saturday, 17 July 2004 08:19 a.m. > To: Matthew E. Bernold > Cc: thi...@li... > Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime > > > Thanks for your input Matthew. > > I'm not comletely sure I agree with your points. Well, actually I don't > :-) > > I believe that yet another ts.conf is not the right way to go. These are > plenty already and it is terrible confusing as it is. And all these > ts.confs are in the core completely structural identical except for nine > lines unique to ts.conf.buildtime (setting ip, mask, dns...). > > I would rather have just a complete "buildtime" with introductionary > comments as the one I've attached here. The nine unique line for > "buildtime" are at the very end and clearly marked as unique. > > I believe it makes things much clearer that "there is ONE ts.conf you can > apply multiple times". But this requires a unified ts.conf. > > Still, thanks for you constructive input. > > Mike > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Matthew E. Bernold wrote: > > > As an addition to my previous E-Mail, I can see why Miles might want to > keep > > the ts.conf.buildtime as clean as possible. It is tempting to put too > much > > information in a locally built file, and rather difficult to change it > once > > you do. If the ts.conf.buildtime were a full conf file, more people would > > be tempted just to use it without exploring the more manageable options. > I > > think that both sides are valid, which is why I suggested the compromise > of > > adding another .conf file loaded locally between the ts.conf.buildtime and > > the ts.conf.network. This allows for a very clean ts.conf.buildtime for > > those people who don't need local options, and a more detailed > > ts.conf.localboot for those people who find they need it. > > > > I think, btw, that by default, TS should come with a ts.conf.localboot > that > > is just comments so there aren't a whole bunch of undesired defaults > running > > around out there. Maybe something like this: > > > > # This file, thinstation.conf.localboot, is used to set defaults for a > > # ThinStation that boots from local storage, so it can function without a > > # TFTP server. If you find you need this option, just copy the > > # thinstation.conf.example file over this one, and then set your options. > > > > Matthew E. Bernold > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Eriksen [mailto:km...@ma...] > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 6:39 PM > > To: thi...@li... > > Subject: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime > > > > > > Miles and I recently had a private e-mail exchange on something else, that > > > ended up being an discussion on the structure of > > thinstation.conf.buildtime ("buildtime"). We've decided to start it again > > here publically to get your opinion. > > > > Miles obviously wants buildtime to be as it is (otherwise he'd changed it > > already :-) > > > > I want to change buildtime to be as ts.conf.example. e.g. with the > > complete setup, which is perfectly possible as things are now. No code has > > to be changed. > > > > My arguments are: > > > > For boot from local devices you really need a complete buildtime, not just > > > the cut down version with network settings only. OK, if you boot from a RW > > > device, you may get around the problem by using a ts.conf.user, but for a > > CD there is no way you can avoid putting everything in buildtime as it is > > RO. Even with loadlin on a RW device a ts.conf.user is impossible due to > > the DOS 8.3 file name convention (and I guess the same goes for syslinux, > > but I never tried). > > > > Also it makes a lot of sense to me to build any image with useful > > defaults, so things can fail gracefully. > > > > Since all the ts.conf(.buildtime, .network, .user, .group-<name>, -<name>, > > > -<ip>, -<mac>) really are identical in structure, I think that having an > > apparently different buildtime file is confusing. > > > > Comments? > > > > Mike > > > > -- Thinstation FAQ maintainer http://thinstation.sourceforge.net - a light, full featured linux based thin client OS ================================================== Attention: The information contained in this message and/or attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by person or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your system and destroy any copies. =================================================== -- __--__-- Message: 3 From: Miles Roper <mr...@we...> To: 'Mike Eriksen' <km...@ma...> Cc: thi...@li... Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:56:41 +1200 actually, I'd rather not do it for 2.0.2 as I'm having to merge quite a few changes from the 2.1 file into your one. you must have based your version on the 2.0.2 file, not 2.1 -----Original Message----- From: Miles Roper [mailto:mr...@we...] Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2004 05:45 p.m. To: 'Mike Eriksen' Cc: thi...@li... Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime perfect, included in 2.1, do you want to include it in 2.0.2? -----Original Message----- From: Mike Eriksen [mailto:km...@ma...] Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2004 05:58 a.m. To: Miles Roper Cc: thi...@li... Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Miles Roper wrote: > > hi, > > ok this looks pretty good. > > just one point, the ica examples are above the ica descriptions, not below. > do you think this could be confusing? Hmmm, well, yes I guess you are right. They should be put back in front. > the same goes for > > # Default Settings for all sessions > > SCREEN=0 > WORKSPACE=1 > AUTOSTART=On > > these arn't explained until you get down further. could be confusing. > thoughts? Well, yes and no. These are short versions of the SESSION ones, and I'm not convinced this is obvious to newcomers. How about an explanation in both places? I've attached an updated ts.conf.example with these changes. It also has quiet a few other ones. Feel free to comment everyone. Mike > Cheers > > Miles > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Eriksen [mailto:km...@ma...] > Sent: Saturday, 17 July 2004 08:19 a.m. > To: Matthew E. Bernold > Cc: thi...@li... > Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime > > > Thanks for your input Matthew. > > I'm not comletely sure I agree with your points. Well, actually I don't > :-) > > I believe that yet another ts.conf is not the right way to go. These are > plenty already and it is terrible confusing as it is. And all these > ts.confs are in the core completely structural identical except for nine > lines unique to ts.conf.buildtime (setting ip, mask, dns...). > > I would rather have just a complete "buildtime" with introductionary > comments as the one I've attached here. The nine unique line for > "buildtime" are at the very end and clearly marked as unique. > > I believe it makes things much clearer that "there is ONE ts.conf you can > apply multiple times". But this requires a unified ts.conf. > > Still, thanks for you constructive input. > > Mike > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Matthew E. Bernold wrote: > > > As an addition to my previous E-Mail, I can see why Miles might want to > keep > > the ts.conf.buildtime as clean as possible. It is tempting to put too > much > > information in a locally built file, and rather difficult to change it > once > > you do. If the ts.conf.buildtime were a full conf file, more people would > > be tempted just to use it without exploring the more manageable options. > I > > think that both sides are valid, which is why I suggested the compromise > of > > adding another .conf file loaded locally between the ts.conf.buildtime and > > the ts.conf.network. This allows for a very clean ts.conf.buildtime for > > those people who don't need local options, and a more detailed > > ts.conf.localboot for those people who find they need it. > > > > I think, btw, that by default, TS should come with a ts.conf.localboot > that > > is just comments so there aren't a whole bunch of undesired defaults > running > > around out there. Maybe something like this: > > > > # This file, thinstation.conf.localboot, is used to set defaults for a > > # ThinStation that boots from local storage, so it can function without a > > # TFTP server. If you find you need this option, just copy the > > # thinstation.conf.example file over this one, and then set your options. > > > > Matthew E. Bernold > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Eriksen [mailto:km...@ma...] > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 6:39 PM > > To: thi...@li... > > Subject: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime > > > > > > Miles and I recently had a private e-mail exchange on something else, that > > > ended up being an discussion on the structure of > > thinstation.conf.buildtime ("buildtime"). We've decided to start it again > > here publically to get your opinion. > > > > Miles obviously wants buildtime to be as it is (otherwise he'd changed it > > already :-) > > > > I want to change buildtime to be as ts.conf.example. e.g. with the > > complete setup, which is perfectly possible as things are now. No code has > > to be changed. > > > > My arguments are: > > > > For boot from local devices you really need a complete buildtime, not just > > > the cut down version with network settings only. OK, if you boot from a RW > > > device, you may get around the problem by using a ts.conf.user, but for a > > CD there is no way you can avoid putting everything in buildtime as it is > > RO. Even with loadlin on a RW device a ts.conf.user is impossible due to > > the DOS 8.3 file name convention (and I guess the same goes for syslinux, > > but I never tried). > > > > Also it makes a lot of sense to me to build any image with useful > > defaults, so things can fail gracefully. > > > > Since all the ts.conf(.buildtime, .network, .user, .group-<name>, -<name>, > > > -<ip>, -<mac>) really are identical in structure, I think that having an > > apparently different buildtime file is confusing. > > > > Comments? > > > > Mike > > > > -- Thinstation FAQ maintainer http://thinstation.sourceforge.net - a light, full featured linux based thin client OS ================================================== Attention: The information contained in this message and/or attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your system and destroy any copies. =================================================== -- __--__-- Message: 4 From: "Jason" <ja...@ca...> To: <thi...@li...> Subject: Re: [Thinstation-general] rdesktop problem Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:01:11 +0200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C46FEB.F692F3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe its your screen resolution in your conf file? or else the refresh = rate? How new / old are the monitors? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: kapil arora=20 To: thi...@li...=20 Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:22 AM Subject: [Thinstation-general] rdesktop problem hello all, i m using via clients and thinstation 1.1 prebuilt nbi image to boot = my clients i m using that tftpd server that comes with thinstation package and = win 2003 server everything goes fine client boots normally but after booting no login prompt comes on the client screen only some = flickering lines appear on the screen i can see the client connected on the server with winlogon.exe running = on the client Please help me out thnks in advance regards kapil ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C46FEB.F692F3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe its your screen resolution in = your conf file?=20 or else the refresh rate?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How new / old are the = monitors?</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A tit...@ya... = href=3D"mailto:kap...@ya...">kapil=20 arora</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 tit...@li...=20 = href=3D"mailto:thi...@li...">thinstation-ge n= er...@li...</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 22, 2004 = 6:22=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Thinstation-general] = rdesktop=20 problem</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>hello all,</DIV> <DIV>i m using via clients and thinstation 1.1 prebuilt nbi image to = boot my=20 clients</DIV> <DIV>i m using that tftpd server that comes with thinstation package = and win=20 2003 server</DIV> <DIV>everything goes fine client boots normally</DIV> <DIV>but after booting no login prompt comes on the client screen only = some=20 flickering lines appear on the screen</DIV> <DIV>i can see the client connected on the server with winlogon.exe = running on=20 the client</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Please help me out</DIV> <DIV>thnks in advance</DIV> <DIV>regards</DIV> <DIV>kapil</DIV> <P> <HR SIZE=3D1> Do you Yahoo!?<BR><A=20 = href=3D"http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/yahoo/votelifeengine/">Vote = for the=20 stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign!</A></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C46FEB.F692F3C0-- -- __--__-- Message: 5 From: "Ganchev, Stefan" <Gan...@as...> To: thi...@li... Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:55:18 +0200 Subject: [Thinstation-general] Elo Entuitive 1525C 15" CRT Desktop Touchmonitor Hello thinstation boys I wont to have thinstation with support of this device Elo Entuitive 1525C 15" CRT Desktop Touchmonitor ( http://www.elotouch.com/products/crts/1525c.asp ) with serial interface. Can some one to tell me how to implement support of this device. I download some drivers for linux's distros but I can't manage my self. Stefan Ganchev -- __--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:36:21 +0200 (MEST) From: Mike Eriksen <km...@ma...> To: Miles Roper <mr...@we...> cc: thi...@li... Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime Right - it is based on 2.0.1. Mike On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Miles Roper wrote: > > actually, I'd rather not do it for 2.0.2 as I'm having to merge quite a few > changes from the 2.1 file into your one. you must have based your version > on the 2.0.2 file, not 2.1 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Miles Roper [mailto:mr...@we...] > Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2004 05:45 p.m. > To: 'Mike Eriksen' > Cc: thi...@li... > Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime > > > > perfect, included in 2.1, do you want to include it in 2.0.2? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Eriksen [mailto:km...@ma...] > Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2004 05:58 a.m. > To: Miles Roper > Cc: thi...@li... > Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime > > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Miles Roper wrote: > > > > hi, > > > > ok this looks pretty good. > > > > just one point, the ica examples are above the ica descriptions, not > below. > > do you think this could be confusing? > > Hmmm, well, yes I guess you are right. They should be put back in front. > > > the same goes for > > > > # Default Settings for all sessions > > > > SCREEN=0 > > WORKSPACE=1 > > AUTOSTART=On > > > > these arn't explained until you get down further. could be confusing. > > thoughts? > > Well, yes and no. These are short versions of the SESSION ones, and I'm > not convinced this is obvious to newcomers. How about an explanation in > both places? > > I've attached an updated ts.conf.example with these changes. It also has > quiet a few other ones. > > Feel free to comment everyone. > > Mike > > > > Cheers > > > > Miles > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Eriksen [mailto:km...@ma...] > > Sent: Saturday, 17 July 2004 08:19 a.m. > > To: Matthew E. Bernold > > Cc: thi...@li... > > Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime > > > > > > Thanks for your input Matthew. > > > > I'm not comletely sure I agree with your points. Well, actually I don't > > :-) > > > > I believe that yet another ts.conf is not the right way to go. These are > > plenty already and it is terrible confusing as it is. And all these > > ts.confs are in the core completely structural identical except for nine > > lines unique to ts.conf.buildtime (setting ip, mask, dns...). > > > > I would rather have just a complete "buildtime" with introductionary > > comments as the one I've attached here. The nine unique line for > > "buildtime" are at the very end and clearly marked as unique. > > > > I believe it makes things much clearer that "there is ONE ts.conf you can > > apply multiple times". But this requires a unified ts.conf. > > > > Still, thanks for you constructive input. > > > > Mike > > > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Matthew E. Bernold wrote: > > > > > As an addition to my previous E-Mail, I can see why Miles might want to > > keep > > > the ts.conf.buildtime as clean as possible. It is tempting to put too > > much > > > information in a locally built file, and rather difficult to change it > > once > > > you do. If the ts.conf.buildtime were a full conf file, more people > would > > > be tempted just to use it without exploring the more manageable options. > > I > > > think that both sides are valid, which is why I suggested the compromise > > of > > > adding another .conf file loaded locally between the ts.conf.buildtime > and > > > the ts.conf.network. This allows for a very clean ts.conf.buildtime for > > > those people who don't need local options, and a more detailed > > > ts.conf.localboot for those people who find they need it. > > > > > > I think, btw, that by default, TS should come with a ts.conf.localboot > > that > > > is just comments so there aren't a whole bunch of undesired defaults > > running > > > around out there. Maybe something like this: > > > > > > # This file, thinstation.conf.localboot, is used to set defaults for a > > > # ThinStation that boots from local storage, so it can function without > a > > > # TFTP server. If you find you need this option, just copy the > > > # thinstation.conf.example file over this one, and then set your > options. > > > > > > Matthew E. Bernold > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mike Eriksen [mailto:km...@ma...] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 6:39 PM > > > To: thi...@li... > > > Subject: [Thinstation-general] The structure of ts.conf.buildtime > > > > > > > > > Miles and I recently had a private e-mail exchange on something else, > that > > > > > ended up being an discussion on the structure of > > > thinstation.conf.buildtime ("buildtime"). We've decided to start it > again > > > here publically to get your opinion. > > > > > > Miles obviously wants buildtime to be as it is (otherwise he'd changed > it > > > already :-) > > > > > > I want to change buildtime to be as ts.conf.example. e.g. with the > > > complete setup, which is perfectly possible as things are now. No code > has > > > to be changed. > > > > > > My arguments are: > > > > > > For boot from local devices you really need a complete buildtime, not > just > > > > > the cut down version with network settings only. OK, if you boot from a > RW > > > > > device, you may get around the problem by using a ts.conf.user, but for > a > > > CD there is no way you can avoid putting everything in buildtime as it > is > > > RO. Even with loadlin on a RW device a ts.conf.user is impossible due to > > > > the DOS 8.3 file name convention (and I guess the same goes for > syslinux, > > > but I never tried). > > > > > > Also it makes a lot of sense to me to build any image with useful > > > defaults, so things can fail gracefully. > > > > > > Since all the ts.conf(.buildtime, .network, .user, .group-<name>, > -<name>, > > > > > -<ip>, -<mac>) really are identical in structure, I think that having an > > > > apparently different buildtime file is confusing. > > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > -- Thinstation FAQ maintainer http://thinstation.sourceforge.net - a light, full featured linux based thin client OS -- __--__-- _______________________________________________ Thinstation-general mailing list Thi...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/thinstation-general End of Thinstation-general Digest ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! 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