Re: [TCLCORE] TIP 474: "Treat the mouse wheel events in a uniform way" again

[Harald O. <har...@el...>]

Brad,

Am 28.06.2018 um 05:53 schrieb Brad Lanam:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Brian Griffin <bri...@ea...
> <mailto:bri...@ea...>> wrote:
> 
>     That's using the same wheel for both dimensions.  What I should have
>     said is that for mouse devices have a separate X-axis mechanism
>     (tilt wheel or roller ball for example) there is no Windows
>     mechanism to get these events in Tk currently that I am aware of. 
>     For Linux, button-6 and button-7 handle these events.
> 
> 
> Well, just for fun, testing on Linux:
> Logitech G500:
>    Button 1 : left mouse
>    Button 2 : center button (pushing the mouse wheel down)
>    Button 3 : right mouse
>    Button 4 : mouse wheel up (rotation)
>    Button 5 : mouse wheel down (rotation)
>    Button 6 : mouse wheel left (this is a click, not a rotation).  This
> button repeats when held left.
>    Button 7 : mouse wheel right (again, a click, not a rotation)  This
> button repeats when held right.
>    Button 8 : lower button on left side
>    Button 9 : upper button on left side
>    Button 10 : center button on left side 
> 
> So using button 6/7 for horizontal scrolling would be quite usable. 
> Like 4/5, the 6/7 repeat
> generates press/release pairs.  None of the other buttons repeat.
> 
> On Mac OS X:
> Logitech G500:
>    Button 1 : left mouse
>    Button 2 : right mouse
>    Button 3 : center mouse (note reversal from Linux/Windows)
>    Button 4 : left side lower button
>    Button 5 : left side upper button,
> The left mouse wheel, right mouse wheel and left side center button  do
> not register.
> I forgot to actually test a bind to <MouseWheel>, but we can assume it
> works.
> 
> Windows:
> Logitech G500:
>    Button 1 : left mouse
>    Button 2 : center mouse
>    Button 3 : right mouse
>    Mouse Wheel up and down
> Left mouse wheel, right mouse wheel and the three left side buttons do
> not register.
> In this case, I am just using whatever defaults are in the logitech
> software.
> 
> The upper and lower left side buttons are assigned to "forward" and
> "back" and windows
> is probably intercepting these assignments.
> 
> The left and right mouse wheel are assigned to "scroll left" and "scroll
> right".  Maybe
> windows is also intercepting these assignments?  They work in FireFox,
> so Windows must
> be seeing them, but Tk does not.

Thank you for the fun test.

For Windows, I would ask you to:
- start notepad
- start spy++ from Microsoft (delivered in many older VisualC etc.) (if
you don't find it, drop me an E-Mail)
- Spy the windows events of the notepad toplevel (Find Window, get
target on window, chosse "Messages")
- give notepad input focus
- press all buttons and record what is shown in Spy++

Unfortunately, Spy++ does not work for Windows 10, but there might be
other tools...

THank you,
Harald