From: Andreas K. <and...@ac...> - 2009-03-10 19:46:46
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Tomasz Kosiak wrote: > That are IMHO the missing points for Tcl/Tk/others to be accepted in GSoC 2009: > > > 1. Who will you be able to submit Tcl GSoC 2009 application and act as an admin? > > Will Matthew Burke find enough time or we need someone else to volunteer? > IMHO we *badly* need clear answer who will act as Tcl/Tk organization > admin in year 2009. Yes. > One *very *important question is if we can/will act as umbrella > organization for Tcl/Tk + AOLserver/Naviserver/OpenACS/XOTcl/aMSN > which gave us 5 more slots last year. > 2. Who is *really* willing to be a mentor this summer (if we got selected) > I think we'll need full mentor name below the project title so > students can easily contact mentor for more info if needed. > > * Gerald Lester is willing to mentor "Tcl Application Server" > > * Andreas Kupries is willing to mentor but which ideas ??? Right, I have to fill that in. Mostly in the tcllib area and graph work. > * Steve Huntley "Tclhttpd refurbish" - did I correctly deciphered the mentor? > > Who is willing to mentor these? > > * ??? "Coverage Analysis" - Larry Virden or maybe we can ask Richard > Hipp as he has an expertise in this area with SQLite. > * ??? "Tcl Core Byte Code" - DKF or AK ? More DKF or Miguel Sofer (MS). I am not so firm with the recent changes (Non-Recursive-Engine). MS will likely not have time. I consider 'difficulty high'. > * ??? "Regexp engine cleanup" DKF/JH I believe, if they have time. > * ??? "Curses implementation of Tk" > * ??? TIP 308 TDBC (Tcl DataBase Connectivity) - PostgreSQL & Oracle > Tcl/C drivers are really needed KBK would be good, if he has time. > * ??? "Tcllib enhancements" AK. > * ??? "Tk - factor out of Tk photo image processing" & "Icon thems" & I proposed that as idea, without knowing the internals involved, so not firm as mentor. Tk gurus needed for this. > Last year as mentors we also had: > > * Patrick Thoyts > * Jeff Hobbs > * Gustaf Neumann (XOTcl or OpenACS) > * Youness El Alaoui (aMSN) > * Tomasz Kosiak (I will write down 2 ideas tomorrow) > 3. Our "Ideas page" need *major* improvement. Agreed. Lots of small ideas without specific information. And of course murphy hits us now, the Wiki is slow to the point of being not usable. > I think we should group/reformat ideas to bring it into something like > last year http://wiki.tcl.tk/20832. > Except mentioning full mentor name as a link to contact page we should > state at least project difficulty and what is required from a student: > Tcl or C and what else if really needed. > > We shall reorder the ideas so those defined more clearly should be > higher. In fact I think that we should somehow top ideas that are > proffered by a community. Students will sometimes only read a few > first entries. That's why I think that we need an index at the top > consisting only from titles linked to anchors. > > Another important thing is that we have to include an introduction at > the top. We shall even state that this is "Ideas page" for > Tcl/Tk/AOLserver/Naviserver/OpenACS/XOTcl and give links to proper > home pages, because students may not know those projects. Something > like last year is minimum. > > We should advertise we've received 9 student slots (lets even explain > what that meant) and that all those projects were somehow successful > (students completed some work and get *paid*). AFAIR we where as good > as PHP last year. > > Quoting from the GSoC FAQ: > > What is an "Ideas" list? > > An "Ideas" list should be a list of suggested student projects. This > list is meant to introduce contributors to your project's needs and to > provide inspiration to would-be student applicants. It is useful to > classify each idea as specifically as possible, e.g. "must know > Python" or "easier project; good for a student with more limited > experience with C++." If your organization plans to provide an > application template, it would be good to include it on your Ideas > list. > > Keep in mind that your Ideas list should be a starting point for > student applications; we've heard from past mentoring organization > participants that some of their best student projects are those that > greatly expanded on a proposed idea or were blue-sky proposals not > mentioned on the Ideas list at all. Andreas. |