[MACTCL] Re: [TCLCORE] Re: TIP #213: A Standard Dialog for Font Selection

[Griffin, B. <bgr...@mo...>]

Donal K. Fellows wrote:

> Jim Ingham wrote:
>
>> The non-modal font panel is really useful on X.  It would make the 
>> API's a little more complex, but it should be possible to accomodate 
>> both.  As Mats points out, we can make the font panel modal - and 
>> there are some apps, particularly Carbon ones - that do post the Font 
>> menu modally, so we would not be out of bounds...  OTOH, it would be 
>> nice to offer the capability for Mac OS X & probably also X11 to have 
>> a non-modal one.  Perhaps you could include a test for whether the 
>> non-modal one is available?
>
>
> The problem with a non-modal font dialog/panel is that the native Win
> font selector dialog is quite thoroughly modal. (On UNIX, we'd do a
> scripted version and so picking one way or another is no big deal.)
>
> Since we've got "fundamentally modal" vs. "fundamentally non-modal",
> we've got to an impasse. Yuck. Time to seek input from the other
> community... 


Let's break this down and look at the problem at the molecular level.  
We've got a combo box listing the names of fonts.  We have another combo 
box listing the font sizes.  Then there's the checkbuttons for bold, 
italic, and underline.  All of these pieces appear in toolbars in 
X11/MacOSX/Windows and they are non-modal.  Next, we take the main 
ingredients and mix them up into a dialog box.  On Windows, the rule is 
that all dialog boxes are modal.  Windows apps. are fairly rigorous in 
following that rule, and so are MacOSX apps, but the difference is that 
Mac apps tend to use more palettes (floating toolbars) and less dialog 
boxes.

So, where am I going with this?  Maybe we should take the approach of 
creating simpler building blocks first and work our way up to a dialog 
box or a palette or a toolbar.

Just a thought...
-Brian

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> Donal.
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