tap-apps-discuss

[Tap-apps-discuss] OpenTAPAS RELEASE

[Glen M. <mc...@gm...>]

Hi Folks,

We're excited to announce OpenTAPAS Version 0.1, the first official
release of the OpenTAPAS project.

This version is intended for users to evaluate OpenTAPAS. As such, it
is packaged so that the client and the server run on the same
computer. In addition, the Server is pre-configured and distributed
with JBoss Application Server and HSQLDB (a 100% java database).

Instructions on how to run the Server and the Client are in the README
file. Please send all feedback to the list.

Coming Soon - a redesigned client built on the netbeans platform!

Regards,
The Team

Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] OpenTAPAS RELEASE

[Brad B. <yaz...@ma...>]

On 15-Apr-07, at 18:05 , Glen McCallum wrote:

Hey Glen:

> We're excited to announce OpenTAPAS Version 0.1, the first official
> release of the OpenTAPAS project.

	A hearty congratulations to you and your team on this important  
milestone!

	So, is this just the client and server, or does it also include the  
handheld functionality?

Brad.

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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] OpenTAPAS RELEASE

[Glen M. <mc...@gm...>]

Honestly, Brad. I have no idea how to make the handheld stuff work. If
you have time, it would be fantastic to add handheld functionality.

Is this a completely separate component from the client?

G.

On 4/16/07, Brad Barclay <yaz...@ma...> wrote:
> On 15-Apr-07, at 18:05 , Glen McCallum wrote:
>
> Hey Glen:
>
> > We're excited to announce OpenTAPAS Version 0.1, the first official
> > release of the OpenTAPAS project.
>
>         A hearty congratulations to you and your team on this important
> milestone!
>
>         So, is this just the client and server, or does it also include the
> handheld functionality?
>
> Brad.
>
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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] OpenTAPAS RELEASE

[Brad B. <yaz...@ma...>]

On 16-Apr-07, at 07:23 , Glen McCallum wrote:

Hi Glen:

> Honestly, Brad. I have no idea how to make the handheld stuff work. If
> you have time, it would be fantastic to add handheld functionality.
>
> Is this a completely separate component from the client?

	Yes, although it does have some dependencies on the server (although  
nothing that wouldn't be too difficult to modify if necessary).  The  
handheld has its own data format that is completely independent of  
Casa, but the sync logic does need to transform the data between the  
POJO's from Casa and the handheld format.

	Give me a few weeks to find some time to work on it.  I'm finishing  
up the last of my coursework, and am teaching CSC 360 (Operating  
Systems) this summer, so I'm trying to do some prep for that right  
now as well -- but come May I should just be teaching and doing  
project work, so I'll be able to commit some to this effort.

	What we have right now should be sufficient for a v0.x release of  
the entire package, but IMO I'm not sure of it's viability, even in  
the short-to-medium term.  Palm only really lives these days due to  
smart phones, and hasn't done much of anything significant with their  
software in ages (and doesn't look to be in a hurry to do much).   
 From an API/programming perspective, I consider their market  
virtually dead.  SuperWaba is likewise dead.  I'm going to move the  
jSyncManager into maintenance mode soon (it's already virtually  
there, but as we did release a few betas of our last release, I  
should spend a weekend sometime getting the last full GA release out  
before officially marking it as being in maintenance mode).

	I've been trying to keep my eye on new devices, but as yet really  
don't see anything suitable.  The iPhone could turn this around --  
but I'm a bit worried about word that there won't be any sort of  
third-party development for it.  Still, as it's running OSX I would  
imagine it's apps are written in Objective-C and Cocoa, and am hoping  
that someone will crack it for third party applications.  Then things  
might start to get interesting again.

	The point being, we should put in the existing handheld support for  
now, but stick it into maintenance mode, and if the handheld device  
market ever becomes interesting again (something away from just iPods  
and cell phones), we can evaluate a new sync system, a new handheld  
application, and overall better handheld support.  I'm hopeful the  
iPhone will (eventually) be what we're really looking for, and the  
hook that will put OpenTAPAS back on the map.

Brad.

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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] OpenTAPAS RELEASE

[Maike D. <mai...@gm...>]

Hi

committed the changes to svn. Mind you that it will not work out of  
the box: commons settings are still pointing to my own server. I  
would like to get your java server onboard asap so we can distribute  
it with Taup as well.

Maike

On 15-Apr-07, at 6:05 PM, Glen McCallum wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> We're excited to announce OpenTAPAS Version 0.1, the first official
> release of the OpenTAPAS project.
>
> This version is intended for users to evaluate OpenTAPAS. As such, it
> is packaged so that the client and the server run on the same
> computer. In addition, the Server is pre-configured and distributed
> with JBoss Application Server and HSQLDB (a 100% java database).
>
> Instructions on how to run the Server and the Client are in the README
> file. Please send all feedback to the list.
>
> Coming Soon - a redesigned client built on the netbeans platform!
>
> Regards,
> The Team
>
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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] OpenTAPAS RELEASE

[Maike D. <mai...@gm...>]

Hi all

sorry, this message was actually meant for Glen alone. It is not a
release that is in any way interesting for non-developers (or active
developers) since it is not really functional. I suppose I am still a
bit groggy from moving last weekend.

But a more interesting release is, as Glen hinted, under way.

Maike

On 17/04/07, Maike Dulk <mai...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi
>
> committed the changes to svn. Mind you that it will not work out of
> the box: commons settings are still pointing to my own server. I
> would like to get your java server onboard asap so we can distribute
> it with Taup as well.
>
> Maike
>
> On 15-Apr-07, at 6:05 PM, Glen McCallum wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > We're excited to announce OpenTAPAS Version 0.1, the first official
> > release of the OpenTAPAS project.
> >
> > This version is intended for users to evaluate OpenTAPAS. As such, it
> > is packaged so that the client and the server run on the same
> > computer. In addition, the Server is pre-configured and distributed
> > with JBoss Application Server and HSQLDB (a 100% java database).
> >
> > Instructions on how to run the Server and the Client are in the README
> > file. Please send all feedback to the list.
> >
> > Coming Soon - a redesigned client built on the netbeans platform!
> >
> > Regards,
> > The Team
> >
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[Tap-apps-discuss] lotsa headaches, a little success

[Maike D. <mai...@gm...>]

Hi all

there are times that I wonder if the benefits of a ready-made =20
platform really outweigh the headaches associated with the Pandora's =20
Boxiness of it all. But hey, I've been there before ... it's just =20
another Framework discussion. So what's new?

I finally succeeded in a task that would have cost me about 5 minutes =20=

work while in plain old Java, but was four evenings of pure black =20
magic voodoo to accomplish on the platform. I hope it will prove to =20
be friendlier in the future.
I simply tried to accomplish that patient banner panels open in the =20
top of the application - and stay there. For the technically =20
inclined, go ahead and read what's below. Others, see the screen shots.

Ciao, Maike


=EF=BF=BC

=EF=BF=BC




Hi Stan,

many thanks. This does work.
But not after I had to go through Geertjan's tutorial on
http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/creating_a_new_mode_in some more.

Maybe I misunderstand something, but I am not entirely sure get if =20
he's talking about a module that extends the Netbeans IDE or an =20
application built on the platform - or possibly both.
For these two different purposes, as far as I understand it the =20
details are different: the user dir for the IDE itself (where all the =20=

banner.wsmode voodoo takes place) is, to name one thing, *not* the =20
same as the user dir for an application (which lives, in my case, =20
under the build/testuserdir directory of my application directory).

Geertjan's tutorial seems - in my eyes - targeted towards an IDE =20
module (e.g. it talks about "Right-click the module and choose =20
"Install/Reload in Development IDE" ~ you cannot do that with a =20
module that is part of an application suite - only with a standalone =20
one).
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I am fairly new to the platform after =20=

all.

His approach did not work for me, for it creates a banner mode in the =20=

NB user directory only, and *not* in the 'application' user directory =20=

so that Stan's code could not find the "banner" mode and generated a =20
NullPointerException. Next, I tried translating the tutorial to 'an =20
application built on the platform' (e.g. read 'start the app'  as =20
'run the application within Netbeans', instead of 'start Netbeans'). =20
At first this seemed to work just fine *until* I restarted the =20
Netbeans IDE which in some way deleted the banner mode that lived in =20
my application's user directory 'modes' folder.

Then I did both things at the same time: created the banner.wsmode in =20=

two modules; one standalone and one as part of my application suite. =20
I installed the former in the Development IDE and the latter in the =20
'Target Platform' and did all the other things similarly double =20
(working in both the .netbeans  and application user directories) - =20
reasoning that maybe in this way the banner mode would both be =20
accessible to the application *and* persistent. Alright, it *is* a =20
dirty solution. But it seems to work.

So - anyone any idea where I got the tutorial wrong?

Maike

PS any IDE developers out here that might want to include the banner =20
mode as a standard mode in NB 6  ;-) ?


> --=20
> --
> Ms. Maike Dulk
> Programmer
> email: mai...@gm...
> phone: (250) 881-1966
> registered Linux user #354067
>
> -- HAL 9000: Dave. Put down those Windows disks, Dave. DAVE!

Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] lotsa headaches, a little success

[Morgan P. <mo...@vi...>]

Tante's Framework Axiom strikes again, eh?

I'm sure you know this but the patient panel is on the user screens  
(which doesn't make workflow sense).  Otherwise these are looking good.

M
______________________
Morgan Price, MD, CCFP


On 25-Apr-07, at 8:59 PM, Maike Dulk wrote:

> Hi all
>
> there are times that I wonder if the benefits of a ready-made  
> platform really outweigh the headaches associated with the  
> Pandora's Boxiness of it all. But hey, I've been there before ...  
> it's just another Framework discussion. So what's new?
>
> I finally succeeded in a task that would have cost me about 5  
> minutes work while in plain old Java, but was four evenings of pure  
> black magic voodoo to accomplish on the platform. I hope it will  
> prove to be friendlier in the future.
> I simply tried to accomplish that patient banner panels open in the  
> top of the application - and stay there. For the technically  
> inclined, go ahead and read what's below. Others, see the screen  
> shots.
>
> Ciao, Maike
>
>
> <taup_07.png>
>
>
> <taup_08.png>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Stan,
>
> many thanks. This does work.
> But not after I had to go through Geertjan's tutorial on
> http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/creating_a_new_mode_in some more.
>
> Maybe I misunderstand something, but I am not entirely sure get if  
> he's talking about a module that extends the Netbeans IDE or an  
> application built on the platform - or possibly both.
> For these two different purposes, as far as I understand it the  
> details are different: the user dir for the IDE itself (where all  
> the banner.wsmode voodoo takes place) is, to name one thing, *not*  
> the same as the user dir for an application (which lives, in my  
> case, under the build/testuserdir directory of my application  
> directory).
>
> Geertjan's tutorial seems - in my eyes - targeted towards an IDE  
> module (e.g. it talks about "Right-click the module and choose  
> "Install/Reload in Development IDE" ~ you cannot do that with a  
> module that is part of an application suite - only with a  
> standalone one).
> Please correct me if I'm wrong. I am fairly new to the platform  
> after all.
>
> His approach did not work for me, for it creates a banner mode in  
> the NB user directory only, and *not* in the 'application' user  
> directory so that Stan's code could not find the "banner" mode and  
> generated a NullPointerException. Next, I tried translating the  
> tutorial to 'an application built on the platform' (e.g. read  
> 'start the app'  as 'run the application within Netbeans', instead  
> of 'start Netbeans'). At first this seemed to work just fine  
> *until* I restarted the Netbeans IDE which in some way deleted the  
> banner mode that lived in my application's user directory 'modes'  
> folder.
>
> Then I did both things at the same time: created the banner.wsmode  
> in two modules; one standalone and one as part of my application  
> suite. I installed the former in the Development IDE and the latter  
> in the 'Target Platform' and did all the other things similarly  
> double (working in both the .netbeans  and application user  
> directories) - reasoning that maybe in this way the banner mode  
> would both be accessible to the application *and* persistent.  
> Alright, it *is* a dirty solution. But it seems to work.
>
> So - anyone any idea where I got the tutorial wrong?
>
> Maike
>
> PS any IDE developers out here that might want to include the  
> banner mode as a standard mode in NB 6  ;-) ?
>
>
>> -- 
>> --
>> Ms. Maike Dulk
>> Programmer
>> email: mai...@gm...
>> phone: (250) 881-1966
>> registered Linux user #354067
>>
>> -- HAL 9000: Dave. Put down those Windows disks, Dave. DAVE!
>
> <taup_07.png>
> <taup_08.png>
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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] lotsa headaches, a little success

[Maike D. <mai...@gm...>]

1b) Indeed. There is an article taking shape in my head, the title of  
which will be something like: "The Artist vs. the Stockbroker: the  
Fundamental Battle between Creative Programming and XML Administering  
- the Cultural IT Battle of Our Days? An in-depth analysis of  
persistent deep complexity versus wide & shallow encyclopedic fad  
knowledge." Subtitle: "why Handy is not always Better - a ruthless  
criticism of postmodern methodology".
1a) I know. The Roler screen is just sitting there illegally, trying  
to impress us by its crumpled good looks. It will be punished.

Maike

BTW What's  CCFP?
some guesses:
- Confounded Colourful Family Practitioner
- Charismatic & Colourful Famous Person
- Creedence Clearwater Festivity Planner
- Cinematography Camera Focus Puller
- Cooperative Clientele Felicitation Person
- Copyright Coding Framework Prolonger
- Crackpot-Catching Fantasy Planner
- Cozy Coordinator of Festivities & Parties
- Close & Cunning Fixem's Parametriser
- Contemplating Controller of Frivolous Programmers
- Client Correlator for Friendly Purposes
- Certainly Certified Family Ponderer

?

On 25-Apr-07, at 10:10 PM, Morgan Price wrote:

> Tante's Framework Axiom strikes again, eh?
>
> I'm sure you know this but the patient panel is on the user screens  
> (which doesn't make workflow sense).  Otherwise these are looking  
> good.
>
> M
> ______________________
> Morgan Price, MD, CCFP
>
>
> On 25-Apr-07, at 8:59 PM, Maike Dulk wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> there are times that I wonder if the benefits of a ready-made  
>> platform really outweigh the headaches associated with the  
>> Pandora's Boxiness of it all. But hey, I've been there before ...  
>> it's just another Framework discussion. So what's new?
>>
>> I finally succeeded in a task that would have cost me about 5  
>> minutes work while in plain old Java, but was four evenings of  
>> pure black magic voodoo to accomplish on the platform. I hope it  
>> will prove to be friendlier in the future.
>> I simply tried to accomplish that patient banner panels open in  
>> the top of the application - and stay there. For the technically  
>> inclined, go ahead and read what's below. Others, see the screen  
>> shots.
>>
>> Ciao, Maike
>>
>>
>> <taup_07.png>
>>
>>
>> <taup_08.png>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Stan,
>>
>> many thanks. This does work.
>> But not after I had to go through Geertjan's tutorial on
>> http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/creating_a_new_mode_in some more.
>>
>> Maybe I misunderstand something, but I am not entirely sure get if  
>> he's talking about a module that extends the Netbeans IDE or an  
>> application built on the platform - or possibly both.
>> For these two different purposes, as far as I understand it the  
>> details are different: the user dir for the IDE itself (where all  
>> the banner.wsmode voodoo takes place) is, to name one thing, *not*  
>> the same as the user dir for an application (which lives, in my  
>> case, under the build/testuserdir directory of my application  
>> directory).
>>
>> Geertjan's tutorial seems - in my eyes - targeted towards an IDE  
>> module (e.g. it talks about "Right-click the module and choose  
>> "Install/Reload in Development IDE" ~ you cannot do that with a  
>> module that is part of an application suite - only with a  
>> standalone one).
>> Please correct me if I'm wrong. I am fairly new to the platform  
>> after all.
>>
>> His approach did not work for me, for it creates a banner mode in  
>> the NB user directory only, and *not* in the 'application' user  
>> directory so that Stan's code could not find the "banner" mode and  
>> generated a NullPointerException. Next, I tried translating the  
>> tutorial to 'an application built on the platform' (e.g. read  
>> 'start the app'  as 'run the application within Netbeans', instead  
>> of 'start Netbeans'). At first this seemed to work just fine  
>> *until* I restarted the Netbeans IDE which in some way deleted the  
>> banner mode that lived in my application's user directory 'modes'  
>> folder.
>>
>> Then I did both things at the same time: created the banner.wsmode  
>> in two modules; one standalone and one as part of my application  
>> suite. I installed the former in the Development IDE and the  
>> latter in the 'Target Platform' and did all the other things  
>> similarly double (working in both the .netbeans  and application  
>> user directories) - reasoning that maybe in this way the banner  
>> mode would both be accessible to the application *and* persistent.  
>> Alright, it *is* a dirty solution. But it seems to work.
>>
>> So - anyone any idea where I got the tutorial wrong?
>>
>> Maike
>>
>> PS any IDE developers out here that might want to include the  
>> banner mode as a standard mode in NB 6  ;-) ?
>>
>>
>>> -- 
>>> --
>>> Ms. Maike Dulk
>>> Programmer
>>> email: mai...@gm...
>>> phone: (250) 881-1966
>>> registered Linux user #354067
>>>
>>> -- HAL 9000: Dave. Put down those Windows disks, Dave. DAVE!
>>
>> <taup_07.png>
>> <taup_08.png>
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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] lotsa headaches, a little success

[Morgan P. <mo...@vi...>]

You should know, as we work together that it is:

Clinical Crackpot Fantasy Planner

Morgan
______________________
Morgan Price, MD, CCFP



On 26-Apr-07, at 10:06 AM, Maike Dulk wrote:

> 1b) Indeed. There is an article taking shape in my head, the title of
> which will be something like: "The Artist vs. the Stockbroker: the
> Fundamental Battle between Creative Programming and XML Administering
> - the Cultural IT Battle of Our Days? An in-depth analysis of
> persistent deep complexity versus wide & shallow encyclopedic fad
> knowledge." Subtitle: "why Handy is not always Better - a ruthless
> criticism of postmodern methodology".
> 1a) I know. The Roler screen is just sitting there illegally, trying
> to impress us by its crumpled good looks. It will be punished.
>
> Maike
>
> BTW What's  CCFP?
> some guesses:
> - Confounded Colourful Family Practitioner
> - Charismatic & Colourful Famous Person
> - Creedence Clearwater Festivity Planner
> - Cinematography Camera Focus Puller
> - Cooperative Clientele Felicitation Person
> - Copyright Coding Framework Prolonger
> - Crackpot-Catching Fantasy Planner
> - Cozy Coordinator of Festivities & Parties
> - Close & Cunning Fixem's Parametriser
> - Contemplating Controller of Frivolous Programmers
> - Client Correlator for Friendly Purposes
> - Certainly Certified Family Ponderer
>
> ?
>
> On 25-Apr-07, at 10:10 PM, Morgan Price wrote:
>
>> Tante's Framework Axiom strikes again, eh?
>>
>> I'm sure you know this but the patient panel is on the user screens
>> (which doesn't make workflow sense).  Otherwise these are looking
>> good.
>>
>> M
>> ______________________
>> Morgan Price, MD, CCFP
>>
>>
>> On 25-Apr-07, at 8:59 PM, Maike Dulk wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> there are times that I wonder if the benefits of a ready-made
>>> platform really outweigh the headaches associated with the
>>> Pandora's Boxiness of it all. But hey, I've been there before ...
>>> it's just another Framework discussion. So what's new?
>>>
>>> I finally succeeded in a task that would have cost me about 5
>>> minutes work while in plain old Java, but was four evenings of
>>> pure black magic voodoo to accomplish on the platform. I hope it
>>> will prove to be friendlier in the future.
>>> I simply tried to accomplish that patient banner panels open in
>>> the top of the application - and stay there. For the technically
>>> inclined, go ahead and read what's below. Others, see the screen
>>> shots.
>>>
>>> Ciao, Maike
>>>
>>>
>>> <taup_07.png>
>>>
>>>
>>> <taup_08.png>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Stan,
>>>
>>> many thanks. This does work.
>>> But not after I had to go through Geertjan's tutorial on
>>> http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/creating_a_new_mode_in some  
>>> more.
>>>
>>> Maybe I misunderstand something, but I am not entirely sure get if
>>> he's talking about a module that extends the Netbeans IDE or an
>>> application built on the platform - or possibly both.
>>> For these two different purposes, as far as I understand it the
>>> details are different: the user dir for the IDE itself (where all
>>> the banner.wsmode voodoo takes place) is, to name one thing, *not*
>>> the same as the user dir for an application (which lives, in my
>>> case, under the build/testuserdir directory of my application
>>> directory).
>>>
>>> Geertjan's tutorial seems - in my eyes - targeted towards an IDE
>>> module (e.g. it talks about "Right-click the module and choose
>>> "Install/Reload in Development IDE" ~ you cannot do that with a
>>> module that is part of an application suite - only with a
>>> standalone one).
>>> Please correct me if I'm wrong. I am fairly new to the platform
>>> after all.
>>>
>>> His approach did not work for me, for it creates a banner mode in
>>> the NB user directory only, and *not* in the 'application' user
>>> directory so that Stan's code could not find the "banner" mode and
>>> generated a NullPointerException. Next, I tried translating the
>>> tutorial to 'an application built on the platform' (e.g. read
>>> 'start the app'  as 'run the application within Netbeans', instead
>>> of 'start Netbeans'). At first this seemed to work just fine
>>> *until* I restarted the Netbeans IDE which in some way deleted the
>>> banner mode that lived in my application's user directory 'modes'
>>> folder.
>>>
>>> Then I did both things at the same time: created the banner.wsmode
>>> in two modules; one standalone and one as part of my application
>>> suite. I installed the former in the Development IDE and the
>>> latter in the 'Target Platform' and did all the other things
>>> similarly double (working in both the .netbeans  and application
>>> user directories) - reasoning that maybe in this way the banner
>>> mode would both be accessible to the application *and* persistent.
>>> Alright, it *is* a dirty solution. But it seems to work.
>>>
>>> So - anyone any idea where I got the tutorial wrong?
>>>
>>> Maike
>>>
>>> PS any IDE developers out here that might want to include the
>>> banner mode as a standard mode in NB 6  ;-) ?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] lotsa headaches, a little success

[Brad B. <yaz...@ma...>]

On 27-Apr-07, at 17:54 , Morgan Price wrote:

> You should know, as we work together that it is:
>
> Clinical Crackpot Fantasy Planner

	Crackpot fantasies require planning now? What about spontaneous  
crackpot fantasies?

Brad.

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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] lotsa headaches, a little success

[Maike D. <mai...@gm...>]

They do occur, but cannot be planned by the CCFP.
This is a sorry and abusive situation that is regretted widely, but  
despite the enormous amounts of research that has gone into righting  
this wrong, no evidence is yet looming on the horizon that relief is  
approaching.

We do, nevertheless, stand with head held high.
<dramatic music fade-in now>

The End

<credits etc etc>

On 27-Apr-07, at 6:00 PM, Brad Barclay wrote:

> Crackpot fantasies require planning now? What about spontaneous  
> crackpot fantasies?



> On 27-Apr-07, at 17:54 , Morgan Price wrote:
>
>> You should know, as we work together that it is:
>>
>> Clinical Crackpot Fantasy Planner
>
>
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[Tap-apps-discuss] text patient buttons

[Maike D. <mai...@gm...>]

Hi Morgan

do you like these buttons?

Maike

Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] text patient buttons

[J B. <jb...@te...>]

On Apr 28, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Maike Dulk wrote:

> Hi Morgan
>
> do you like these buttons?
>
> Maike
>
> <taup_09.png>

As a (mostly) lurker unfamiliar with any offlist discussions about  
the GUI, some of the content of the .png seems inconsistent or -- at  
least -- potentially confusing.

Not knowing where and when any input on the GUI would best be given  
or discussed, I will await others' lead. :-)

Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] text patient buttons

[Maike D. <mai...@gm...>]

Hi

just to clarify

the choice was between icons signifying "close a patient" or "cancel  
patient search" or buttons that bear that exact text.
In a much earlier stage Morgan expressed his opinion that the text  
would be much more recognisable for our users ... the alternative is  
to think of an unambiguous icon that means "Cancel Search" or, even  
worse, "Close a Patient / Clinicaldocument".
Anyone who comes up with an icon that says exactly that is therefore  
very welcome :-) To strip it down, an icon of a Clinical Document  
would be very handy.

And indeed, as Morgan says - at this stage, don't worry about the  
other screen elements. In every mail that I show something about the  
screen I'll tell exactly what to look at. I'll also include what to  
ignore, to make it more clear. I was not really aware that there are  
others than our former development group watching this list :-)

Maike

On 29-Apr-07, at 12:13 AM, J Busser wrote:

> As a (mostly) lurker unfamiliar with any offlist discussions about
> the GUI, some of the content of the .png seems inconsistent or -- at
> least -- potentially confusing.
>
> Not knowing where and when any input on the GUI would best be given
> or discussed, I will await others' lead. :-)
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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] text patient buttons

[Brad B. <yaz...@ma...>]

On 29-Apr-07, at 00:13 , J Busser wrote:

> As a (mostly) lurker unfamiliar with any offlist discussions about
> the GUI, some of the content of the .png seems inconsistent or -- at
> least -- potentially confusing.
>
> Not knowing where and when any input on the GUI would best be given
> or discussed, I will await others' lead. :-)

	I know that Lindsay had done some HCI work on the original TAPEAR  
UI, but is any effort currently being put forth to ensure that the UI  
conforms to some sort of set of HCI standards?

	If nobody has done so already, we should think of adopting an  
existing standard.  Sun does publish a Java Look and Feel Design  
Guidelines set of books (http://java.sun.com/products/jlf/).  Apple  
provides very extensive HCI guidelines online for free (http:// 
developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/ 
OSXHIGuidelines/), and while they tend to be specific to the  
Macintosh platform, we can probably adopt most or all of the in- 
window guidelines.

Brad.

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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] text patient buttons

[Morgan P. <mo...@vi...>]

Jim

The image we are seeing has a few elements that are on the wrong  
screen.  I think soon would be a good time to provide some feedback,  
but right now Maike is updating the GUI to fit into the NetBeans  
framework and as such we're seeing "bits" stuck together that do not  
quite make sense.

For example the "Roler Window" isn't the final name nor should it be  
a tab under a patient name.

Maike

For now the buttons work for me.

Morgan

On 29-Apr-07, at 12:13 AM, J Busser wrote:

>
> On Apr 28, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Maike Dulk wrote:
>
>> Hi Morgan
>>
>> do you like these buttons?
>>
>> Maike
>>
>> <taup_09.png>
>
> As a (mostly) lurker unfamiliar with any offlist discussions about
> the GUI, some of the content of the .png seems inconsistent or -- at
> least -- potentially confusing.
>
> Not knowing where and when any input on the GUI would best be given
> or discussed, I will await others' lead. :-)
>
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[Tap-apps-discuss] Pt Demographics screen preview

[Maike D. <mai...@gm...>]

Hi

here's the preview (meaning it does not really work right now - it  
does no yet get its data from the clinicaldoc that is tied to the  
patient in the banner above it, but I still want to show the gui to  
you) of the Patient Demographics screen.
Tomorrow - data polka!

cheers
Maike

Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] text patient buttons

[Lindsay F. <sta...@gm...>]

The intention is that I will spend some time looking at the newly  
designed tapear UI, but at the moment I'm a little swamped with my  
thesis :P. The original usability testing we did was on the basis of  
Jakob Nielsen's usability principles and methods from HINF director  
Andre Kushniruk.  Brad- the suggestions you've provided look great as  
well. I'll be sure to look at them more in-depth when I have some  
more time. That being said - Glen/Maike/Morgan - is there a specific  
timeline for when we want to start examining UI?

Lindsay

"Design is not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how  
it works."
	- Steve Jobs





On 29-Apr-07, at 2:20 AM, Brad Barclay wrote:

> On 29-Apr-07, at 00:13 , J Busser wrote:
>
>> As a (mostly) lurker unfamiliar with any offlist discussions about
>> the GUI, some of the content of the .png seems inconsistent or -- at
>> least -- potentially confusing.
>>
>> Not knowing where and when any input on the GUI would best be given
>> or discussed, I will await others' lead. :-)
>
> 	I know that Lindsay had done some HCI work on the original TAPEAR  
> UI, but is any effort currently being put forth to ensure that the  
> UI conforms to some sort of set of HCI standards?
>
> 	If nobody has done so already, we should think of adopting an  
> existing standard.  Sun does publish a Java Look and Feel Design  
> Guidelines set of books (http://java.sun.com/products/jlf/).  Apple  
> provides very extensive HCI guidelines online for free (http:// 
> developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/ 
> OSXHIGuidelines/), and while they tend to be specific to the  
> Macintosh platform, we can probably adopt most or all of the in- 
> window guidelines.
>
> Brad.
>
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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] text patient buttons

[Maike D. <mai...@gm...>]

Hi Lindsay

well, it depends on what functionality you want to examine ...

Maike

On 3-May-07, at 6:00 PM, Lindsay Forland wrote:

> The intention is that I will spend some time looking at the newly
> designed tapear UI, but at the moment I'm a little swamped with my
> thesis :P. The original usability testing we did was on the basis of
> Jakob Nielsen's usability principles and methods from HINF director
> Andre Kushniruk.  Brad- the suggestions you've provided look great as
> well. I'll be sure to look at them more in-depth when I have some
> more time. That being said - Glen/Maike/Morgan - is there a specific
> timeline for when we want to start examining UI?
>
> Lindsay
>
> "Design is not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how
> it works."
> 	- Steve Jobs
>
>
>
>
>
> On 29-Apr-07, at 2:20 AM, Brad Barclay wrote:
>
>> On 29-Apr-07, at 00:13 , J Busser wrote:
>>
>>> As a (mostly) lurker unfamiliar with any offlist discussions about
>>> the GUI, some of the content of the .png seems inconsistent or -- at
>>> least -- potentially confusing.
>>>
>>> Not knowing where and when any input on the GUI would best be given
>>> or discussed, I will await others' lead. :-)
>>
>> 	I know that Lindsay had done some HCI work on the original TAPEAR
>> UI, but is any effort currently being put forth to ensure that the
>> UI conforms to some sort of set of HCI standards?
>>
>> 	If nobody has done so already, we should think of adopting an
>> existing standard.  Sun does publish a Java Look and Feel Design
>> Guidelines set of books (http://java.sun.com/products/jlf/).  Apple
>> provides very extensive HCI guidelines online for free (http://
>> developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/
>> OSXHIGuidelines/), and while they tend to be specific to the
>> Macintosh platform, we can probably adopt most or all of the in-
>> window guidelines.
>>
>> Brad.
>>
>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] Pt Demographics screen preview

[Morgan P. <mo...@vi...>]

Maike

Do you have any ability to show us the flow of how the add and delete  
buttons work in this new version?

That was a considerable hiccup for users in the last version (non- 
Netbeans)

M
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On 2-May-07, at 8:13 PM, Maike Dulk wrote:

> Hi
>
> here's the preview (meaning it does not really work right now - it  
> does no yet get its data from the clinicaldoc that is tied to the  
> patient in the banner above it, but I still want to show the gui to  
> you) of the Patient Demographics screen.
> Tomorrow - data polka!
>
> cheers
> Maike
>
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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] Pt Demographics screen preview

[Maike D. <mai...@gm...>]

For now, they will not work any different. If you want it otherwise,  
let's hear it ... I am now actually working on the screen.

When the screen is functioning, I'll post some screens to illustrate  
the old flow to refresh everyone's mind, ok?

Miake

On 5-May-07, at 5:59 AM, Morgan Price wrote:

> Maike
>
> Do you have any ability to show us the flow of how the add and  
> delete buttons work in this new version?
>
> That was a considerable hiccup for users in the last version (non- 
> Netbeans)
>
> M
> ______________________
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> mo...@vi...
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>
>
>
> On 2-May-07, at 8:13 PM, Maike Dulk wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> here's the preview (meaning it does not really work right now - it  
>> does no yet get its data from the clinicaldoc that is tied to the  
>> patient in the banner above it, but I still want to show the gui  
>> to you) of the Patient Demographics screen.
>> Tomorrow - data polka!
>>
>> cheers
>> Maike
>>
>> <taup_10.png>
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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] Pt Demographics screen preview

[Morgan P. <mo...@vi...>]

What was the feedback from the usability testing on these?
______________________
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On 5-May-07, at 11:00 AM, Maike Dulk wrote:

> For now, they will not work any different. If you want it  
> otherwise, let's hear it ... I am now actually working on the screen.
>
> When the screen is functioning, I'll post some screens to  
> illustrate the old flow to refresh everyone's mind, ok?
>
> Miake
>
> On 5-May-07, at 5:59 AM, Morgan Price wrote:
>
>> Maike
>>
>> Do you have any ability to show us the flow of how the add and  
>> delete buttons work in this new version?
>>
>> That was a considerable hiccup for users in the last version (non- 
>> Netbeans)
>>
>> M
>> ______________________
>> Morgan Price, MD, CCFP
>> mo...@vi...
>> Virtually Priceless Consulting.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2-May-07, at 8:13 PM, Maike Dulk wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> here's the preview (meaning it does not really work right now -  
>>> it does no yet get its data from the clinicaldoc that is tied to  
>>> the patient in the banner above it, but I still want to show the  
>>> gui to you) of the Patient Demographics screen.
>>> Tomorrow - data polka!
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> Maike
>>>
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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] Pt Demographics screen preview

[Lindsay F. <sta...@gm...>]

Here's all the feedback from the "Add Patient" task from the =20
usability inspection and heuristics evaluation I did. Mind you, these =20=

are all the issues/suggestions and aren't prioritized as to which =20
ones should be tended to.
"Design is not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how =20
it works."
	- Steve Jobs



=EF=BF=BC

On 5-May-07, at 11:06 AM, Morgan Price wrote:

> What was the feedback from the usability testing on these?
> ______________________
> Morgan Price, MD, CCFP
> mo...@vi...
> Virtually Priceless Consulting.
>
>
>
> On 5-May-07, at 11:00 AM, Maike Dulk wrote:
>
>> For now, they will not work any different. If you want it =20
>> otherwise, let's hear it ... I am now actually working on the screen.
>>
>> When the screen is functioning, I'll post some screens to =20
>> illustrate the old flow to refresh everyone's mind, ok?
>>
>> Miake
>>
>> On 5-May-07, at 5:59 AM, Morgan Price wrote:
>>
>>> Maike
>>>
>>> Do you have any ability to show us the flow of how the add and =20
>>> delete buttons work in this new version?
>>>
>>> That was a considerable hiccup for users in the last version (non-=20=

>>> Netbeans)
>>>
>>> M
>>> ______________________
>>> Morgan Price, MD, CCFP
>>> mo...@vi...
>>> Virtually Priceless Consulting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2-May-07, at 8:13 PM, Maike Dulk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> here's the preview (meaning it does not really work right now - =20
>>>> it does no yet get its data from the clinicaldoc that is tied to =20=

>>>> the patient in the banner above it, but I still want to show the =20=

>>>> gui to you) of the Patient Demographics screen.
>>>> Tomorrow - data polka!
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>> Maike
>>>>
>>>> <taup_10.png>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------=20=

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Re: [Tap-apps-discuss] Pt Demographics screen preview

[Maike D. <mai...@gm...>]

Whoa, that was fast :-D

Here's what I would like to do: first finish that screen and then  
have a chat session (or a skype session) in which we go over these  
pain-in-the-user buttons.

?

Maike


On 5-May-07, at 11:24 AM, Lindsay Forland wrote:

> Here's all the feedback from the "Add Patient" task from the  
> usability inspection and heuristics evaluation I did. Mind you,  
> these are all the issues/suggestions and aren't prioritized as to  
> which ones should be tended to.
> "Design is not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is  
> how it works."
> 	- Steve Jobs
>
>
>
> <UsabilityResults-AddPatient.xls>
>
>
> On 5-May-07, at 11:06 AM, Morgan Price wrote:
>
>> What was the feedback from the usability testing on these?
>> ______________________
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>> mo...@vi...
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>>
>>
>>
>> On 5-May-07, at 11:00 AM, Maike Dulk wrote:
>>
>>> For now, they will not work any different. If you want it  
>>> otherwise, let's hear it ... I am now actually working on the  
>>> screen.
>>>
>>> When the screen is functioning, I'll post some screens to  
>>> illustrate the old flow to refresh everyone's mind, ok?
>>>
>>> Miake
>>>
>>> On 5-May-07, at 5:59 AM, Morgan Price wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maike
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any ability to show us the flow of how the add and  
>>>> delete buttons work in this new version?
>>>>
>>>> That was a considerable hiccup for users in the last version  
>>>> (non-Netbeans)
>>>>
>>>> M
>>>> ______________________
>>>> Morgan Price, MD, CCFP
>>>> mo...@vi...
>>>> Virtually Priceless Consulting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2-May-07, at 8:13 PM, Maike Dulk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> here's the preview (meaning it does not really work right now -  
>>>>> it does no yet get its data from the clinicaldoc that is tied  
>>>>> to the patient in the banner above it, but I still want to show  
>>>>> the gui to you) of the Patient Demographics screen.
>>>>> Tomorrow - data polka!
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> Maike
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