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[Super-tux-devel] Be Friends Again

[Tobias <tob...@gm...>]

Hi folks,

I guess we all followed this unfortunately discussion,
which leds to nothing but nothing.

I hope that Ingo and I can begin to feel respect for
each other again.

We aren't in a kindergarten and someone has to be the
first to end a worthless wrangle.

I would really like to release the real 0.1.0, that
was intended from the beginning. Please agree
on this Ingo and make your great "release", that
shows the public how far we have come, a 0.1-light one.

We can vote on this mailing-list, if we prefer this solution or
0.1.1, which isn't a bugfix release as intended anymore in that case.

Now let's shake hands.

Greetz...

Tobias Gläßer (hopes he calmed down enough)
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Re: [Super-tux-devel] Be Friends Again

[Ingo R. <gr...@gm...>]

Tobias Gl=E4=DFer <tob...@gm...> writes:

> I would really like to release the real 0.1.0, that
> was intended from the beginning. Please agree
> on this Ingo and make your great "release", that
> shows the public how far we have come, a 0.1-light one.

No, that is simply unaccebtable and useless. 0.1.0 is already out,
released and done, if you like it or not, if you want to release a new
version increament the version number, pretty easy and painless, that
what they are for.

> We can vote on this mailing-list, if we prefer this solution or
> 0.1.1, which isn't a bugfix release as intended anymore in that case.

Useless to vote here, since rereleasing a new version with the same
name is just pointless and confusing.

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Re: [Super-tux-devel] Be Friends Again

[Christopher A. W. <cr...@li...>]

<grumbel> how about Milestone1 - 0.1.1
<tobgle> hmm, sounds better

I think we have things settled.  Now let's get on with our lives!  :)

Christopher Allan Webber


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Re: [Super-tux-devel] Be Friends Again

[Ricardo C. <ri...@ae...>]

Hey,

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release a 0.1.1 version.

 Does everybody agree with this?

Hope so,

Ricardo Cruz



Em Segunda, 3 de Maio de 2004 15:30, o Tobias Gl=C3=A4=C3=9Fer escreveu:
> Hi folks,
>
> I guess we all followed this unfortunately discussion,
> which leds to nothing but nothing.
>
> I hope that Ingo and I can begin to feel respect for
> each other again.
>
> We aren't in a kindergarten and someone has to be the
> first to end a worthless wrangle.
>
> I would really like to release the real 0.1.0, that
> was intended from the beginning. Please agree
> on this Ingo and make your great "release", that
> shows the public how far we have come, a 0.1-light one.
>
> We can vote on this mailing-list, if we prefer this solution or
> 0.1.1, which isn't a bugfix release as intended anymore in that case.
>
> Now let's shake hands.
>
> Greetz...
>
> Tobias Gl=C3=A4=C3=9Fer (hopes he calmed down enough)

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To every Ph.D. there is an equal and opposite Ph.D.
		-- B. Duggan

Re: [Super-tux-devel] Be Friends Again

[Christopher A. W. <cr...@li...>]

>  So, in my opinion, I am willing to keep Ingo's version has the official and 
> as soon as the leveleditor is ready, merge it and release a 0.1-(something). 
> Without anything more, just the level editor.
>  After this, we could fix a few more bugs and implement a couple of things and 
> release a 0.1.1 version.
> 
>  Does everybody agree with this?


Agreed.  I don't think there's much choice, either.

Re: [Super-tux-devel] Be Friends Again

[Ricardo C. <ri...@ae...>]

 Well, the other choice would be to remove Ingo's release from the homepage 
and remove Happypenguin's entry, as well.
 It would be pretty trivial to do, though I wouldn't like this to happen, 
since this would mean a lot of internal conflicts and with an eventually lost 
of cvs access from Ingo's part.

 I don't think that was what Jesus taught us, so I am willing to make things 
in a way that everybody feels well with and thus I suggested that.

Ricardo Cruz

Em Segunda, 3 de Maio de 2004 15:59, o Christopher A. Webber escreveu:
> >  So, in my opinion, I am willing to keep Ingo's version has the official
> > and as soon as the leveleditor is ready, merge it and release a
> > 0.1-(something). Without anything more, just the level editor.
> >  After this, we could fix a few more bugs and implement a couple of
> > things and release a 0.1.1 version.
> >
> >  Does everybody agree with this?
>
> Agreed.  I don't think there's much choice, either.

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Re: [Super-tux-devel] Be Friends Again

[Ingo R. <gr...@gm...>]

Ricardo Cruz <ri...@ae...> writes:

> ...just because of this sad situation.

No need to be sad, lets party, after all Milestone1 is done, all left
is fixing small issues that show up.

>  So, in my opinion, I am willing to keep Ingo's version has the
> official and as soon as the leveleditor is ready, merge it and
> release a 0.1-(something). Without anything more, just the level
> editor.

Aehm, why -(something), why not 0.1.1? Version numbers are there for
incrementing, not for appending funny names.

>  After this, we could fix a few more bugs and implement a couple of
> things and release a 0.1.1 version.

That would be 0.1.2 then, anyway, that are just little version number
games, that are not really important.

> Well, the other choice would be to remove Ingo's release from the homepage 
> and remove Happypenguin's entry, as well.

You would have to remove it from freshmeat as well and no matter what
you would confuse a hell of a lot people, pretty impractical after
all.

> It would be pretty trivial to do,

I kind of doubt it.

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Re: [Super-tux-devel] Be Friends Again

[Ricardo C. <ri...@ae...>]

Em Segunda, 3 de Maio de 2004 16:20, o Ingo Ruhnke escreveu:
> Ricardo Cruz <ri...@ae...> writes:
> > ...just because of this sad situation.
>
> No need to be sad, lets party, after all Milestone1 is done, all left
> is fixing small issues that show up.
>

 For the record, i am not sad, i am not even astonished with what happen, 
since I already was seeing that this would happen sooner or later, that was 
why i had a few talks with you.

 I just used a figure of speech... when you attribute feelings to mere words, 
not sure how it is called in English.

Ricardo

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