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[Super-tux-devel] GotM For March 2004

[Ingo R. <gr...@gm...>]

The Happypenguin GotM[1] Vote for March got rushed out a bit earlier
than expected. Anyway, the pool is now open and SuperTux is a
canditade, so lets just cast a few votes and hope that SuperTux will
win and thus get a bit more publicity and especially more developers.

[1] http://www.happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1243
[2] http://www.happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1242

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Re: [Super-tux-devel] GotM For March 2004

[<ri...@ae...>]

Hey,

 I have previously mentioned this; I think SuperTux main need is=20
levels and currently, using the level editor is not that fun So I=20
think we should hold on a bit, since an interface is already in the=20
way.
 The code is also in no situation for being hacked by other ppl,=20
since it is not that flexible. Futhermore, it was also decided that=20
prior to the 0.0.6, SuperTux will be rewritten in C++.

Ricardo Cruz

ps: Ingo, I also share the same opinion as a guy from the gametome; 1=20
month it too short for helping a project. Futhermore, 1 month is a=20
too short period for writting TODOs, reviews... and publish them.
Anyway, if it becames popular, I'm sure project mantainers themselves=20
would ask to be the GotM and submit reviews and stuff.


Citando Ingo Ruhnke <gr...@gm...>:

>=20
> The Happypenguin GotM[1] Vote for March got rushed out a bit earlier
> than expected. Anyway, the pool is now open and SuperTux is a
> canditade, so lets just cast a few votes and hope that SuperTux will
> win and thus get a bit more publicity and especially more=20
developers.
>=20
> [1] http://www.happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3D1243
> [2] http://www.happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3D1242
>=20
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>=20

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Re: [Super-tux-devel] GotM For March 2004

[Ingo R. <gr...@gm...>]

ri...@ae... writes:

>  I have previously mentioned this; I think SuperTux main need is
> levels and currently, using the level editor is not that fun So I
> think we should hold on a bit, since an interface is already in the
> way.

My windstille editor is already pretty useable (supports multiple
tilemaps, objects, tilebrushes, undo/redo, multiple buffers, minimap,
is scriptable, etc) and I already created a handfull of levels with
it. I'll try to create a release in the next few days, for the moment
people can check it out at (requires ClanLib-0.7 CVS and guile-1.6,
start with ./supertux -e in the src/ directory):

svn co svn://clanlib.org/Games/Windstille/trunk/

> The code is also in no situation for being hacked by other ppl,
> since it is not that flexible.

It doesn't has to be all that much flexible, as long as it can hold
the feature that are needed for a 0.1 release it shouldn't be a
problem and even the 0.0.5 release already gets close to that. 0.1
isn't meant as a YoshiIsland killer, just as a little useable and fun
Jump'n Run and that should be doable.

> Futhermore, it was also decided that prior to the 0.0.6, SuperTux
> will be rewritten in C++.

Unless I am completly mistaken, there are no plans in the near future
to rewrite it in C++, that was more a plan for the far future (ie.
past 0.1) and more of a slow migration.

The current timeline I have in mind is:

0.0.6: gameplay basically working again + editor + opengl support, not
       everything has to be 100% perfect, just more or less useable

0.0.x: fixing all those stuff that was not so 100% perfect in 0.0.6,
       bug fixing etc. These releases should be mainly/only for the
       GotM contributors so that they have something to test/play
       with

0.1:   a final release with a more or less mariobros1 logic, after that
       we can start ripping the thing apart, rewriting it in C++ or
       whatever

> ps: Ingo, I also share the same opinion as a guy from the gametome; 1 
> month it too short for helping a project. Futhermore, 1 month is a 
> too short period for writting TODOs, reviews...

The reviews and ToDos should already be written *before* the game is
even allowed to get in the vote (yes, this is not really the case with
the current games and the vote got a bit rushed out, but we have to
start somewhere). And for a bit of content a month is enough if people
use the time to do work instead of having endless discussions.

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Re: [Super-tux-devel] GotM For March 2004

[Tobias <tob...@gm...>]

Am Do, den 26.02.2004 schrieb Ingo Ruhnke um 16:25:
> ri...@ae... writes:
> 
> >  I have previously mentioned this; I think SuperTux main need is
> > levels and currently, using the level editor is not that fun So I
> > think we should hold on a bit, since an interface is already in the
> > way.
> 
> My windstille editor is already pretty useable (supports multiple
> tilemaps, objects, tilebrushes, undo/redo, multiple buffers, minimap,
> is scriptable, etc) and I already created a handfull of levels with
> it. I'll try to create a release in the next few days, for the moment
> people can check it out at (requires ClanLib-0.7 CVS and guile-1.6,
> start with ./supertux -e in the src/ directory):
> 
> svn co svn://clanlib.org/Games/Windstille/trunk/
> 
> > The code is also in no situation for being hacked by other ppl,
> > since it is not that flexible.
> 
> It doesn't has to be all that much flexible, as long as it can hold
> the feature that are needed for a 0.1 release it shouldn't be a
> problem and even the 0.0.5 release already gets close to that. 0.1
> isn't meant as a YoshiIsland killer, just as a little useable and fun
> Jump'n Run and that should be doable.
> 
> > Futhermore, it was also decided that prior to the 0.0.6, SuperTux
> > will be rewritten in C++.
> 
> Unless I am completly mistaken, there are no plans in the near future
> to rewrite it in C++, that was more a plan for the far future (ie.
> past 0.1) and more of a slow migration.

Rewrite is definitivly the wrong word. A soft migration in cases, where
C++ design and features ( string vs char and ptox vs. this) are
superior, is the right description.

Greetz...

Tobias Gläßer

Re: [Super-tux-devel] GotM For March 2004

[Ingo R. <gr...@gm...>]

Ingo Ruhnke <gr...@gm...> writes:

> My windstille editor is already pretty useable [...]

Little screenshot:

http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/tmp/windstille-editor-2004-02-27.jpg

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