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Re: [Super-tux-devel] g++ version problem with gameobjs.cpp?

[Matze B. <ma...@br...>]

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> 
> Hrm :^(
> 
> $ make
> source='gameobjs.cpp' object='gameobjs.o' libtool=no \
> depfile='.deps/gameobjs.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/gameobjs.TPo' \
> depmode=gcc /bin/sh ../depcomp \
> g++ -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"SuperTux\" -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"supertux\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"0.1.0pre1\" -DPACKAGE_STRING=\"SuperTux\ 0.1.0pre1\" -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\"\" -DPACKAGE=\"supertux\" -DVERSION=\"0.1.0pre1\" -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_STDINT_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBSDL_MIXER=1 -DHAVE_LIBSDL_IMAGE=1 -DHAVE_LIBZ=1 -DHAVE_MKDIR=1 -DHAVE_STRDUP=1 -DHAVE_STRSTR=1  -I. -I.     -g -O2 -Wall -W -DDEBUG -O0 -g3 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT -DNOOPENGL -DDATA_PREFIX='"/usr/local/share/supertux"' -c -o gameobjs.o `test -f 'gameobjs.cpp' || echo './'`gameobjs.cpp
> gameobjs.cpp: In method `void BouncyDistro::action(double)':
> gameobjs.cpp:47: `::find' undeclared (first use here)
> make: *** [gameobjs.o] Error 1
> 
> 
> If I build with g++-3.0 it seems to compile that okay.
> 
Simply a missing #include <algorithm>. Fixed in cvs.

Greetings,
	Matze

[Super-tux-devel] Delete slots

[Ricardo C. <ri...@ae...>]

Hey there,

 Someone suggested that we implemented an option to delete slots.
 Just wondering, how should it be accessed:

- pressing Delete in a slot;
- press a slot and then have a menu with a couple of things to do;
- via the worldmap menu (i don't like this approach).

 In any case, there should be a confirm dialog.

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Re: [Super-tux-devel] Two Small Patches

[Ricardo C. <ri...@ae...>]

 Well, I prefer the current behaviour.

Ricardo

Em Quinta, 29 de Abril de 2004 02:53, o sik0fewl =A0 escreveu:
> Two small patches..
>
> misc
>   - allows Jumpy to jump through badguys instead of bouncing off of them
> (the behaviour was really weird when he bounced off of other badguys.
>
> --
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Re: [Super-tux-devel] Two Small Patches

[Ricardo C. <ri...@ae...>]

 Well, I think nicknames shouldn't be there at all. I already upload an 
Authors section to the webpage and that could have that stuff.
 It would be much better to have a description, for instance.

Ricardo Cruz

Em Quinta, 29 de Abril de 2004 03:14, o Bill Kendrick escreveu:
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 01:53:36AM +0000, sik0fewl ? wrote:
> > credits
> >  - Adds mine and neoneurone's nicknames to CREDITS and replaces ()'s with
> > ""'s around nicknames.
>
> I think it might be good to only list Nicknames the first time a name is
> mentioned.  e.g.:
>
>   Some important thing:
>   Bill "kendrick" Kendrick
>
>   Some other important thing:
>   Ryan "sik0fewl" Lastname
>   Bill Kendrick
>
>
> -bill!
>
>

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[Super-tux-devel] Die when crouching!

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

In Miyamoto Monument level, there's a part with a narrow 'crawlspace' and
a bunch of coins, like so:


     ############
   X ############
   X  $$$$$$$$$$        (X = Tux;  $ = coins;  # = brick;  = = floor)
====================

If you're small Tux, you can just run underneath and get all the coins.

When I was here before, I tried getting some coins by running up to the
'entrance' and crouching ([Down]), which was hoping would at least let
me get the first few coins before I stopped.

Now, I've discovered that I _DIE_ when I go to stand up!  (Meaning any
attempt to go in there as big Tux will kill you.)

I tried from both sides, with the same results.  Any idea why that kills you?
I would hope that it would just kind of 'shove you' out when you tried
to stand up.

(e.g., if you're crouched and facing right, when you stop sliding and
decide it's time to let go of the [Down] arrow, you'd remain crouched,
but get slowly pushed out to the left...)


-bill!

Re: [Super-tux-devel] Developer CVS Access

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 12:11:17AM +0000, sik0fewl ? wrote:
> Tobias or Bill,
> 
> I was wondering if me and MatzeB could get developer CVS access. If not to 
> commit then at least so we can work of the latest cvs sources (it's 
> annoying waiting for anon cvs to come up to date).
> 
> My sf username is 'sik0fewl' and MatzeB's is 'matzebraun'.

Done :)

-bill!

[Super-tux-devel] g++ version problem with gameobjs.cpp?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Hrm :^(

$ make
source='gameobjs.cpp' object='gameobjs.o' libtool=no \
depfile='.deps/gameobjs.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/gameobjs.TPo' \
depmode=gcc /bin/sh ../depcomp \
g++ -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"SuperTux\" -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"supertux\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"0.1.0pre1\" -DPACKAGE_STRING=\"SuperTux\ 0.1.0pre1\" -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\"\" -DPACKAGE=\"supertux\" -DVERSION=\"0.1.0pre1\" -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_STDINT_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBSDL_MIXER=1 -DHAVE_LIBSDL_IMAGE=1 -DHAVE_LIBZ=1 -DHAVE_MKDIR=1 -DHAVE_STRDUP=1 -DHAVE_STRSTR=1  -I. -I.     -g -O2 -Wall -W -DDEBUG -O0 -g3 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT -DNOOPENGL -DDATA_PREFIX='"/usr/local/share/supertux"' -c -o gameobjs.o `test -f 'gameobjs.cpp' || echo './'`gameobjs.cpp
gameobjs.cpp: In method `void BouncyDistro::action(double)':
gameobjs.cpp:47: `::find' undeclared (first use here)
make: *** [gameobjs.o] Error 1


If I build with g++-3.0 it seems to compile that okay.

I guess I'll need to rebuild it from scratch and make sure I use g++-3.0 :)

-bill!

Re: [Super-tux-devel] Two Small Patches

[Christopher A. W. <cr...@li...>]

> Before the Ice Block (when you carried him) killed bad guys, I actually
> was able to carry him up to some Helisnowballs and it caused them to
> fly upwards, like so:


Hehe... you think that's good?  Before the change where touching a held
ice block to an enemy killed both the ice block and the enemy... I found
out I could carry the ice block in front of me and use him as a nice
little shield :)

CAW

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Re: [Super-tux-devel] Two Small Patches

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 08:55:31PM -0500, C Ratchet wrote:
> What is Jumpy? the jumping snowball? 

No, the bizarre jumping spike-headed thing with a spring.  (used to be
moneybag in my old version)

The snowballs are probably called "bouncy" or something ;)
(I like them, BTW!)

-bill!

Re: [Super-tux-devel] Two Small Patches

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 01:53:36AM +0000, sik0fewl ? wrote:
>  - allows Jumpy to jump through badguys instead of bouncing off of them 
> (the behaviour was really weird when he bounced off of other badguys.

Hehe, I was kinda amused by it, but yeah, this is probably better.

Before the Ice Block (when you carried him) killed bad guys, I actually
was able to carry him up to some Helisnowballs and it caused them to
fly upwards, like so:


     .    <- top of where heli'd fly
     .
     ()   <- heli
   *[]    <- tux w/ iceblock
  #####

changed to:

     .
     . 
     ()

   *[]
  ######     ... so I could more safely run under him. ;^)


But I still think it's better that iceblock clobbers bad guys (and goes
away, himself) when you carry him. :)


> credits
>  - Adds mine and neoneurone's nicknames to CREDITS and replaces ()'s with 
> ""'s around nicknames.

I think it might be good to only list Nicknames the first time a name is
mentioned.  e.g.:

  Some important thing:
  Bill "kendrick" Kendrick

  Some other important thing:
  Ryan "sik0fewl" Lastname
  Bill Kendrick


-bill!

Re: [Super-tux-devel] World 2

[sik0fewl <xxd...@ho...>]

>On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 01:33:15AM +0000, sik0fewl ? wrote:
> > Sorry.. an idea popped into my head and I decided I should share :)
> >
> > This would take some slight modifications to the extro story, but what 
>if
> > "world 2" was entirely inside Nolok's castle? Just a thought.
>
>Hrm.
>
>Well, I think that because we're on Icy Island, and need to get somewhere
>from there, that we can be on a big boat, as it moves over the ocean.
>At least for the first (few) level(s) of World 2... :)

Maybe Nolok's castle could have an underground passage into another world 
(possibly fantasy like, or a desert :) . Okay.. I'm really stretching it 
here, I'll stop. :P

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Re: [Super-tux-devel] World 2

[C R. <zra...@mi...>]

Looking at Christopher's reply, maybe add Nolok's Moat, Swimming Pool, 
Hot Tub ;)

Ratchet

On Apr 28, 2004, at 8:52 PM, C Ratchet wrote:

> Maybe you should go thru different Nolok worlds, i.e. Nolok's office, 
> dungeons, throne room etc.
>
> For office, I can think of a few good badguys... taperolls and 
> staplers ;)
>
> For dungeons, maybe bats and scorpions...
>
> Ratchet
>
> On Apr 28, 2004, at 8:40 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 01:33:15AM +0000, sik0fewl ? wrote:
>>> Sorry.. an idea popped into my head and I decided I should share :)
>>>
>>> This would take some slight modifications to the extro story, but 
>>> what if
>>> "world 2" was entirely inside Nolok's castle? Just a thought.
>>
>> Hrm.
>>
>> Well, I think that because we're on Icy Island, and need to get 
>> somewhere
>> from there, that we can be on a big boat, as it moves over the ocean.
>> At least for the first (few) level(s) of World 2... :)
>>
>> -bill!
>>
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Re: [Super-tux-devel] Two Small Patches

[C R. <zra...@mi...>]

What is Jumpy? the jumping snowball?

Ratchet

On Apr 28, 2004, at 8:53 PM, sik0fewl =A0 wrote:

> Two small patches..
>
> misc
>  - allows Jumpy to jump through badguys instead of bouncing off of =20
> them (the behaviour was really weird when he bounced off of other =20
> badguys.
>  - Give Christopher story credit in AUTHORS file (he was already in =20=

> CREDITS)
>  - Replaced "Gwen" with "Penny" in data/intro.txt. There are no more =20=

> occurences of "Gwen" in the source tree :)
>
> credits
>  - Adds mine and neoneurone's nicknames to CREDITS and replaces ()'s =20=

> with ""'s around nicknames.
>
> Not sure if you want to change the styling in the CREDITS so I made it =
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[Super-tux-devel] Re: World 2 (and swimming)

[Christopher A. W. <cr...@li...>]

World two should definetly not be in the castle.  Maybe the last world,
but not world two.  The fortresses are meant to be places of each
world's final battle... maybe mini-boss levels too.
Perhaps the last world could be one big fortress, but not all the
worlds.

As for Bill's comment... the whole ocean would be somewhat silly... but
perhaps a "water world" would make sense.  (like SMB3 World 3)  It would
indeed be good excuse to force us to get swimming done.
Speaking of which, I took many notes on penguins while I was at the
aquarium.  Penguins have some amazing swimming abilities which would be
great for gameplay.  However, this would mean swimming would be entirely
unlike swimming in SMB games.  Not that this is a bad thing.
I should probably scan in that page of my notebook and send it here... 
I'll do that as soon as I remember :)

Christopher Allan Webber

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On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 20:40, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 01:33:15AM +0000, sik0fewl ? wrote:
> > Sorry.. an idea popped into my head and I decided I should share :)
> > 
> > This would take some slight modifications to the extro story, but what if 
> > "world 2" was entirely inside Nolok's castle? Just a thought.
> 
> Hrm.
> 
> Well, I think that because we're on Icy Island, and need to get somewhere
> from there, that we can be on a big boat, as it moves over the ocean.
> At least for the first (few) level(s) of World 2... :)
> 
> -bill!
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[Super-tux-devel] Two Small Patches

[sik0fewl <xxd...@ho...>]

Two small patches..

misc
  - allows Jumpy to jump through badguys instead of bouncing off of them 
(the behaviour was really weird when he bounced off of other badguys.
  - Give Christopher story credit in AUTHORS file (he was already in 
CREDITS)
  - Replaced "Gwen" with "Penny" in data/intro.txt. There are no more 
occurences of "Gwen" in the source tree :)

credits
  - Adds mine and neoneurone's nicknames to CREDITS and replaces ()'s with 
""'s around nicknames.

Not sure if you want to change the styling in the CREDITS so I made it a 
separate patch.

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Re: [Super-tux-devel] World 2

[C R. <zra...@mi...>]

Maybe you should go thru different Nolok worlds, i.e. Nolok's office, 
dungeons, throne room etc.

For office, I can think of a few good badguys... taperolls and staplers 
;)

For dungeons, maybe bats and scorpions...

Ratchet

On Apr 28, 2004, at 8:40 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 01:33:15AM +0000, sik0fewl ? wrote:
>> Sorry.. an idea popped into my head and I decided I should share :)
>>
>> This would take some slight modifications to the extro story, but 
>> what if
>> "world 2" was entirely inside Nolok's castle? Just a thought.
>
> Hrm.
>
> Well, I think that because we're on Icy Island, and need to get 
> somewhere
> from there, that we can be on a big boat, as it moves over the ocean.
> At least for the first (few) level(s) of World 2... :)
>
> -bill!
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Re: [Super-tux-devel] World 2

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 01:33:15AM +0000, sik0fewl ? wrote:
> Sorry.. an idea popped into my head and I decided I should share :)
> 
> This would take some slight modifications to the extro story, but what if 
> "world 2" was entirely inside Nolok's castle? Just a thought.

Hrm.

Well, I think that because we're on Icy Island, and need to get somewhere
from there, that we can be on a big boat, as it moves over the ocean.
At least for the first (few) level(s) of World 2... :)

-bill!

[Super-tux-devel] World 2

[sik0fewl <xxd...@ho...>]

Sorry.. an idea popped into my head and I decided I should share :)

This would take some slight modifications to the extro story, but what if 
"world 2" was entirely inside Nolok's castle? Just a thought.

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Re: [Super-tux-devel] Inventory?

[Ingo R. <gr...@gm...>]

Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> writes:

> On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 06:25:44PM -0500, C Ratchet wrote:
>> Well currently running doesn't seem to work if you have fire :( 
> Don't have ST in front of me.  Can someone confirm?  Is there a bug?

Can't confirm it, work fine here. Anyway, there is another problem
with running, if one pressed the run button before the level starts
(ie. in the startscreen), it doesn't get recognized in the game, only
after a keyrelease and another press, not a big issue, however happens
every once in a while, especially when respawning, since most of the
time one just holds the button down more or less the whole time.

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[Super-tux-devel] Developer CVS Access

[sik0fewl <xxd...@ho...>]

Tobias or Bill,

I was wondering if me and MatzeB could get developer CVS access. If not to 
commit then at least so we can work of the latest cvs sources (it's annoying 
waiting for anon cvs to come up to date).

My sf username is 'sik0fewl' and MatzeB's is 'matzebraun'.

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Re: [Super-tux-devel] Inventory?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 06:25:44PM -0500, C Ratchet wrote:
> Well currently running doesn't seem to work if you have fire :( 
> 

Don't have ST in front of me.  Can someone confirm?  Is there a bug?
If so, we need to fix it!!! :^)

-bill!

Re: [Super-tux-devel] Inventory?

[C R. <zra...@mi...>]

Well currently running doesn't seem to work if you have fire :(

Ratchet

On Apr 28, 2004, at 6:00 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 05:55:34PM -0500, C Ratchet wrote:
>> On some levels, I get frustrated that I can't use run power when I
>> have fire power.
>
> Uh... it SHOULD work.
>
> There's no "run" power.  Run should always work, no matter if you're
> small, big, or have fire...
>
> It's the same as the NES version of Mario Bros.
>
> [B] to run (and shoot if you have fire)
> [A] to jump
>
> Except for us it's:
>
> [Ctrl] to run (and shoot if you have fire)
> [Up] to jump
>
>
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Re: [Super-tux-devel] Inventory?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 05:55:34PM -0500, C Ratchet wrote:
> On some levels, I get frustrated that I can't use run power when I 
> have fire power.

Uh... it SHOULD work.

There's no "run" power.  Run should always work, no matter if you're
small, big, or have fire...

It's the same as the NES version of Mario Bros.

[B] to run (and shoot if you have fire)
[A] to jump

Except for us it's:

[Ctrl] to run (and shoot if you have fire)
[Up] to jump


-bill!

[Super-tux-devel] Inventory?

[C R. <zra...@mi...>]

On some levels, I get frustrated that I can't use run power when I have 
fire power. Maybe the shift key could be used to switch between powers. 
Also an inventory display at the top of the screen would be nice if 
this was done.

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[Super-tux-devel] Re: [Super-tux-commit] supertux/src menu.cpp,1.57,1.58 setup.cpp,1.63,1.64

[Ricardo C. <ri...@ae...>]

 Well, I made that dialog and I know it didn't work. It was just to be a 
jumping step for someone that would have a joystick and would like to 
implement the setup for it.

Ricardo Cruz

Em Quarta, 28 de Abril de 2004 21:51, o Ingo Ruhnke escreveu:
> - removed joystick setup menu, since it won't work anyway

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