From: Gurkan G. S. <gur...@st...> - 2011-07-28 14:51:03
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Dear Sandesh, O.K. thanks for the hint - I will try that out. Is there an elegant way to set-up the traffic lights (it looks very complex with all that "yyygggrrr...")? Best regards, Gürkan On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:19:45 +0200, Sandesh Uppoor <su...@gm...> wrote: > Dear Gunay, > > Few of the sumo options which might help to reduce congestion are, > > check out sumo --help and use the following > --> Lanechange.allow.swap (some thing of this kind ) > --> reduce the default time for teleporting vehicle (depends on how > realistic u want to be default is 5 min , 300s) > --> if you change the step length to less than 1, you can also obtain less > number of collisions , but here congestion may be more . > --> no internal lanes > --> i also have heard about join junctions in 0.13 , this might be a good > option to try (not tried yet) > --> dont use traffic light guessing, or guessing ramps > > Most of the congestion are because of complex junctions . I dont recommend > using repair route option in dua router because this make vehicle to drive > in the simulation for a longer time hence more possibility for congestion. > (open the rou.xml and check the repaired route for any vehicle .. length of > the route is almost multiplies to more than 10 times between the same start > n end edges) > > Regards > Sandesh > On Jul 28, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Gurkan Gunay S172599 wrote: > >> Dear Sandesh and Jakob, >> >> thanks for the information. I have indeed a lot of congestion in the >> network. >> So I will first try to solve it and then come back to the script. >> >> P.S. Are there any additional useful parameter for the script (as input) >> that you suggest? >> >> Best regards, >> >> Gürkan >> >> On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:49:29 +0200, Sandesh uppoor <su...@gm...> >> wrote: >>> Dear Gunay, >>> >>> I feel you should plug it to server with screen , because by default it >>> runs for 50 iterations . of course you can limit it , ONe more thing is >>> - >>> more the number of waiting vehicles you have more time is taken by sumo >>> . >>> If your scenario is very clean and no vehicles get stuck then you can >>> finish off very soon . For information on running time (server quad core >>> 16G men) , nodes with 400,000 nodes running over 6 hours , took hardly >> 3-4 >>> hours for sumo (the network was pretty clean ) , initially when network >> was >>> not nice , it took 12+ hours >>> >>> Hope some information might help >>> >>> Regards >>> sandesh >>> >>> On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Gurkan Gunay S172599 wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Simon, >>>> >>>> after having generated the routes; I am now trying out the python >>>> script >>>> for the dynamic user assignment. >>>> So, I am using 3 iterations to see if it works - the first iteration >> took >>>> more then 5 hours, the second iteration is still in progress (since > >>>> 15 >>>> hours). Is it normal that it takes so long? >>>> >>>> P.S. I am using a CoreI7 Notebook. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Gürkan >>>> >>>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:08:16 +0200, Simon Siemens >>>> <sim...@ar...> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi Gürkan, >>>>> >>>>> the high number of warnings is perfectly right. ActivityGen generates >>>>> the routes only with a few intermediate stops (or even only start and >>>>> stop positions). Duarouter warns about the missing intermediate edge >> and >>>>> fills them correctly. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am Mittwoch, den 27.07.2011, 10:50 +0200 schrieb Gurkan Gunay S172599: >>>>>> Dear Simon, >>>>>> >>>>>> I could also generate the routes - although with a huge number of >>>>>> "Warning: >>>>>> Repaired route of vehicle ...". (I was using the commands: >>>> --remove-loops >>>>>> --continue-on-unbuild --repair) >>>>>> >>>>>> I will now work on the fine tuning and try the dynamic user >> assignment. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Gürkan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:04:12 +0200, Simon Siemens >>>>>> <sim...@ar...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Gürkan, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michael fixed the bug. I can run a simulation with your scenario >>>>>>> now. >>>>>>> Does it work on your machine as well? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The simulation still shows some problems. But they are not on the >>>>>>> program level. For example, you have problems with traffic lights. >> You >>>>>>> probably need to fine tune your map (remove some junctions, combine >>>>>>> some >>>>>>> traffic lights, ...) and your population description. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am Freitag, den 22.07.2011, 18:54 +0200 schrieb Simon Siemens: >>>>>>>> OK, I changed my SUMO configuration and could verify your >> teleporting >>>>>>>> vehicles. If you look in the routes file generated by duarouter, >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>> that all routes are the same. This is not so in the input file of >>>>>>>> duarouter (bramfeld-temp.rou.xml). So it seems there is a bug in >>>>>>>> duarouter. I posted another email to the list that details the bug. >>>>>>>> Hopefully Daniel or Michael come up with an idea about it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, den 21.07.2011, 17:14 +0200 schrieb Gurkan Gunay >>>>>>>> S172599: >>>>>>>>> Dear Simon, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> oh, I was afraid that you left me alone ;-) >>>>>>>>> yes I also have both types "random" and "default" >>>>>>>>> But I don't get the error that you get - I am loosing the hope :( >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This time I have used the file that you send me (with a missing >>>>>>>>> gate) >>>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>>> can load everthing and start the simulation,m but the routes are >>>>>> almost >>>>>>>>> useless (vehicles are teleported all the time) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> P.S. I am using 11026, too. If yuo are interested you can find my >>>>>> files >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> the attachment. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gürkan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:26:23 +0200, Simon Siemens >>>>>>>>> <sim...@ar...> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Dear Gürkan, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sorry for the late answer. I was out of office the last days. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I cannot reproduce your error. I updated to version 11026. Then I >>>>>>>>>> took >>>>>>>>>> the population file I sent you and ran the following commands: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> activitygen --net-file bramfeld.net.xml --stat-file >>>>>>>>>> bramfeld.pop.xml >>>>>>>>>> --output-file bramfeld-temp.rou.xml --srand 10 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> duarouter --net-file bramfeld.net.xml --sumo-input >>>>>>>>>> bramfeld-temp.rou.xml >>>>>>>>>> --output-file bramfeld.rou.xml --remove-loops >>>>>>>>>> --continue-on-unbuild >>>>>>>>>> --repair >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then I started sumo-gui and loaded a configuration file named >>>>>>>>>> bramfeld.sumo.cfg. It simply contains: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <configuration >>>>>>>>>> xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="http://sumo.sf.net/xsd/sumoConfiguration.xsd"> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <input> >>>>>>>>>> <net-file value="bramfeld.net.xml"/> >>>>>>>>>> <route-files value="bramfeld.rou.xml"/> >>>>>>>>>> </input> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> </configuration> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The messages I get then are: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Loading configuration... >>>>>>>>>> done. >>>>>>>>>> Loading net-file from '/home/wbam/test.gürkan/bramfeld.net.xml' >>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Warning: Your network uses deprecated tags; please rebuild. >>>>>>>>>> Warning: Deprecated tl-logic name; please rebuild. >>>>>>>>>> done (516ms). >>>>>>>>>> Loading done. >>>>>>>>>> Warning: The length does not include the gap to the preceeding >>>>>>>>>> vehicle >>>>>>>>>> anymore! Please recheck your values. >>>>>>>>>> Error: Attribute 'depart' in definition of vehicle >>>>>>>>>> 'randUni16430:1' >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> not an int. >>>>>>>>>> Quitting (on error). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I can verify that depart has indeed a float value. (The error >>>> came >>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>> the call of duarouter. That should be interesting for the main >>>>>>>>>> maintainers.) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But now back to your error. In the route file duarouter created >>>>>>>>>> (bramfeld.rou.xml) I have two vehicle type defintions: the type >>>>>>>>>> random >>>>>>>>>> right at the beginning and the type default more in the middle. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <routes xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="http://sumo.sf.net/xsd/routes_file.xsd"> >>>>>>>>>> <vType id="random" length="5.00" maxSpeed="90.00"> >>>>>>>>>> <carFollowing-Krauss accel="4.00" decel="8.00" >>>>>> sigma="0.00"/> >>>>>>>>>> </vType> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> … >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <vType id="default" length="5.00" maxSpeed="90.00"> >>>>>>>>>> <carFollowing-Krauss accel="4.00" decel="8.00" >>>>>> sigma="0.00"/> >>>>>>>>>> </vType> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> … >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> </routes> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you verify that please? (Search for vType; e.g., grep vType >>>> *) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My bramfeld.rou.xml has a size of 40610536 B (39 MB), >>>>>>>>>> bramfeld.rou.alt.xml 49233720 B (47 MB). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you please look in the route file and check its content? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am Dienstag, den 19.07.2011, 12:02 +0200 schrieb Gurkan Gunay >>>>>>>>>> S172599: >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Simon, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I didn't notice that you had modified also ActivityGen - thought >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>> only eWorld - sorry for that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am using now dev-SVN-r11026 and indeed it works. I could >>>>>>>>>>> generate >>>>>>>>> trips >>>>>>>>>>> and then used DuaRouter for routes generation: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> duarouter.exe --net-file bramfeld.net.xml --sumo-input >>>>>>>>>>> bramfeld-temp.rou.xml --output-file bramfeld.rou.xml >>>>>>>>>>> --remove-loops >>>>>>>>>>> --continue-on-unbuild --repair >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When I load the generated file (>50MB) into SUMO-GUI and try to >>>>>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> simulation it tells me the following: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Error: The vehicle type 'random' for vehicle 'randUni16345:1' is >>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>> Quitting (on error). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Although there are two defined vehicle types: namely, "random" >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> "default" >>>>>>>>>>> Did you observe the same error? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gurkan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> 5 Ways to Improve & Secure Unified Communications >>>>>>>>>> Unified Communications promises greater efficiencies for >>>> business. >>>>>> UC >>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> improve internal communications as well as offer faster, more >>>>>>>>>> efficient >>>>>>>>>> ways >>>>>>>>>> to interact with customers and streamline customer service. 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