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Re: [Subtext-devs] how to use a trackback URL
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From: Dave @ Dave's T. S. <da...@da...> - 2006-08-26 03:02:25
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Steve, Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. It worked exactly as you said it would. Now that I understand this, I can appreciate the way Subtext makes trackbacks easy to use. Here <http://blog.davestechshop.net/archive/2006/08/25/140.aspx> is the test post I made. As I said, it worked beautifully. David _____ From: Steve Harman [mailto:ste...@gm...] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:29 PM To: sub...@li...; da...@da... Subject: Re: [Subtext-devs] how to use a trackback URL Dave, I think that the real problem is that the author of that post doesn't really understand all the ways that trackbacks can be supported... and the URL that she gives is incorrect. View the source of the author's blog post (the one where you can actually see the trackbacks left by others: http://www.shaicoggins.com/index.php/weblog/comments/teaching_and_learning_t rackbacks/) and you'll see the following in the source: <!-- <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns# <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns> " xmlns:trackback=" http://madskills.com/public/xml/rss/module/trackback/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/ "> <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://www.shaicoggins.com/index.php/weblog/comments/teaching_and _learning_trackbacks/ " trackback:ping="http://www.shaicoggins.com/index.php/trackback/63/Nz9kb7tq/" dc:title="Teaching and Learning Trackbacks" dc:identifier="http://www.shaicoggins.com/index.php/weblog/comments/teaching _and_learning_trackbacks/" dc:subject="Blogging & Bloggers" dc:description="I'm preparing a short tutorial on using <a href="http://www.shaicoggins.com/index.php?URL= <http://weblogs.about.com/cs/blogsglossary/g/trackback.htmtitle=trackbacks&q uot;>trackbacks</a>> http://weblogs.about.com/cs/blogsglossary/g/trackback.htmtitle=trackbacks <http://weblogs.about.com/cs/blogsglossary/g/trackback.htmtitle=trackbacks&q uot;>trackbacks</a>> ">trackbacks</a> over at my <a href="http://www.shaicoggins.com/index.php?URL= <http://weblogs.about.com/">Web> http://weblogs.about.com/ <http://weblogs.about.com/">Web> ">Web Logs site</a> at About.com. I just did one on <a href="http://www.shaicoggins.com/index.php?URL= <http://weblogs.about.com/od/weblogs101/f/howtosendping.htm">sending > http://weblogs.about.com/od/weblogs101/f/howtosendping.htm <http://weblogs.about.com/od/weblogs101/f/howtosendping.htm">sending > ">sending pings</a> and I know that another question I get asked is on trackbacks. And, I realised that I need a place to send people to send trackbacks. I don't want to bombard anyone else with…" dc:creator="Shai Coggins" dc:date="2005-05-17 02:40:24 AM GMT" /> </rdf:RDF> --> Now, if you look at the "trackback:ping=" line you'll see a URL. That is the URL that the trackback notification SHOULD be sent to, and the one that subTEXT will send it to. In order to get successfully send a trackback, you'll want create a link to the URL I listed at the top of this message. When you create the entry, the subTEXT engine will parse all links, then go search the linked-to page and look for the rdf that Phil mentioned. We then parse that rdf message and look for the URL listed by the "trackback:ping" element and send a trackback notification to that URL. Anyhow, give it a whirl and see if it works! -Steve On 8/25/06, Dave @ Dave's Tech Shop <da...@da... > wrote: It doesn't seem to be working except between Subtext blogs. For example, try leaving a trackback here <http://weblogs.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=weblogs&zu=http %3A%2F%2Fwww.shaicoggins.com%2Findex.php%2Fweblog%2Fteaching_and_learning_tr ackbacks%2F> ( <http://weblogs.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=weblogs&zu=http %3A%2F%2Fwww.shaicoggins.com%2Findex.php%2Fweblog%2Fteaching_and_learning_tr ackbacks%2F> http://weblogs.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=weblogs&zu=http% 3A%2F%2Fwww.shaicoggins.com%2Findex.php%2Fweblog%2Fteaching_and_learning_tra ckbacks%2F) I have tried it every way I can think of and I can't make Subtext create a trackback here. Nor can I make it create one anywhere else except on another Subtext blog. _____ From: sub...@li... [mailto:sub...@li...] On Behalf Of Phil Haack Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:47 PM To: sub...@li...; da...@Da... Subject: Re: [Subtext-devs] how to use a trackback URL Well most sites publish a bit of rdf within the contents of a post. Subtext parses that and uses that. For example, view the source on the following URL and you'll see: http://haacked.com/archive/2006/08/23/String.IsNullOrEmpty.aspx <!-- <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf=" <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns> http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns# <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns> " xmlns:dc=" <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/> http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:trackback=" <http://madskills.com/public/xml/rss/module/trackback/> http://madskills.com/public/xml/rss/module/trackback/"> <rdf:Description rdf:about=" <http://haacked.com/archive/2006/08/23/String.IsNullOrEmpty.aspx> http://haacked.com/archive/2006/08/23/String.IsNullOrEmpty.aspx" dc:identifier=" <http://haacked.com/archive/2006/08/23/String.IsNullOrEmpty.aspx> http://haacked.com/archive/2006/08/23/String.IsNullOrEmpty.aspx" dc:title="String.IsNullOrEmpty" trackback:ping=" <http://haacked.com/services/trackbacks/15920.aspx> http://haacked.com/services/trackbacks/15920.aspx" /> </rdf:RDF> --> _____ From: sub...@li... [mailto:sub...@li...] On Behalf Of Dave @ Dave's Tech Shop Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:57 PM To: sub...@li... Subject: [Subtext-devs] how to use a trackback URL I was just learning about and testing trackbacks. If I test this between 2 subtext blogs, things work fine. I simply reference another post in my post (using the normal URL for that post) and a trackback is created at the other blog's post. It's nice and simple, and it works. However, many sites list a special trackback URL. For example, at this article <http://conscont.blogspot.com/2005/08/you-read-it-right-complete-blog.html> it says use this link for trackbacks: http://haloscan.com/tb/conscontblog/112468325700800580 The following advice <http://weblogs.about.com/od/weblogs101/f/usetrackback.htm> doesn't seem to apply to Subtext: Copy that trackback URL on the blog entry you wish to reference. Then, when you write your own blog entry, you must use that URL in the space provided for trackbacks. Most blogging systems that support the trackback function will have a section somewhere in the area where you create blog entries. Is Subtext enabled to use trackbacks like this? If so, how? Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk <http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642> &kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Subtext-devs mailing list Sub...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/subtext-devs <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/subtext-devs> -- :<>::< 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at >::<>: http://stevenharman.net/blog |
