Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] gui discussion

[Rob S. <ro...@di...>]

Good points.  What is the current feasibility on the customizable
buttons?  Will these be able to do any action, even from plugins?  How
would this be set up by the user?

I don't know about the campfire and talking star icons...! :)

Rob

On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 20:42 +0100, Johan Meuris wrote:
> Rob,
> 
> thanks for the ideas!
> 
> Sunday, November 11, 2007, 6:50:08 PM, you wrote:
> 
> RS> I haven't been able to check out the updated GUI map, so these comments
> RS> are based on the screen mock ups:
> 
> RS> What is the reason for separating the large buttons on the left from the
> RS> user configurable buttons on the bottom?  Why not just have one row, but
> RS> now with the ability to customize it?
> 
> The large buttons all lead to windows/tools where further action is needed,
> the horizontal bar is basically a collection of toggle switches with
> immediate impact on the display.
> 
> RS> Not using the GUI much, what does the observatory button do?  It does not
> RS> seem like it will be obvious what the button is for.
> 
> RS> What about not even having a clock button?  If you click on the date or
> RS> time you get the clock interface...?
> 
> It comes from the premiss that I divide Stellarium's function into
> three parts: at a certain time, on a certain location, you make an
> observation.  Maybe an idée fixe of mine, but I think it works.
> 
> The time button leads to a window where a user can set all time
> related options: sidereal etc.
> This means entering the time in the status bar is a simple way for beginners,
> without leading them to a more complex interface.
> 
> Same thing for the location button.  You can quickly enter coordinates
> in the status bar, the location button opens the detailed location
> settings, altitude, surroundings etc.
> 
> The observation button leads to the most important window in this
> concept.
> This is where a user controls what he's seeing, and how he is seeing
> it.  I grouped three topics here: sky, starlore and view.
> 
> You make a very good point about this, it isn't obvious what this button would
> do.
> 
> So it is an option to make these three topics available in the
> vertical button row to make the interface more shallow. "Observation"
> is just a group name for these windows to be honest, and maybe an
> unnecessary hurdle for the user.
> Adding these buttons to the vertical button row also spotlights the
> "starlore" feature, which is a very distinguishing feature of
> Stellarium, and even more in the future.
> 
> I adjusted it in the new mockups.
> 
> This way, we're at nine vertical buttons, but I still need to think
> of a way to access advanced features: scripting, tui, telescope, key
> bindings...
> 
> RS> Is there room for longer status text from scripts or the script 
> RS> command bar (if we are keeping that)?
> 
> I don't think it's feasible in this configuration. I didn't think of
> using the status bar for this, but an extra status popup/text
> line/message window/script bar...
> 
> RS> Is it important to keep plugin configs separate from the other config 
> RS> options at the top level?  Aren't these just configuration details that
> RS> could go in a config window tab?
> 
> Still a bit of a design question this, will it be a window where you
> can load, activate or deactivate plugins and edit their settings, or just toggle switches?
> Will plugins add a tab to the "program options" window?
> 
> RS> How do you activate the sliders vs. toggling with the same button, or is
> RS> the button only to activate the slider?
> 
> Just to activate the slider, in my mind.  On/off would be a different
> button.
> 
> RS> I like how the transparent buttons are less obtrusive.
> 
> RS> Looks good!
> 
> All temporary, polish comes later. :)
> 
> Updated mockups here:
> 
> http://users.pandora.be/jomejom/stellarium/interface/blank-3.jpg
> http://users.pandora.be/jomejom/stellarium/interface/labeled-3.jpg
> 
> Updated Freemind mindmap here:
> 
> http://users.pandora.be/jomejom/stellarium/interface/interface%20map.mm
> 
> RS> Rob
> 
> 
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