[Sserver-three-d] Stealthy Server Development

[Tobias W. <wa...@pr...>]

Hello everybody!

First of all, I'd like to thank Junqing Wang for his contribution in=20
overcoming the flaws of the server's current offside recognition. Once=20
the Christmas holidays are over, here in Germany, I'll encourage my team=20
to test the proposed modifications and report our experiences with it.=20

I also want to address an issue which has been on my mind for some time=20
now. As a matter of fact the 3D mailinglist is dead! Plain dead! Now,=20
since the mailing list is the official place to post news as to the=20
progress of the leagues and the development of the server, to discuss=20
proposals for new modifications, future research directions etc. I can=20
only come to one conclusion: The server development is dead, too!=20

I mean, let's face the facts: Half a year has passed without _any_ word=20
from the official committees as to what's going to happen with the=20
league! As RoboCup '07 is approaching time is running out for server=20
changes beyond minor cosmetics. After all, the teams need time to react=20
to changes, test the new setup, adapt their team, etc. All of that=20
cannot happen overnight. This is why I believe the time for server=20
changes has been wasted. Yet again...=20

I keep wondering what the technical comittee has actually been doing=20
since RoboCup. Maybe you guys have been awfully busy, planning new=20
server modifications. But then, why doesn't anyone bother to keep the=20
community up to date! After all, we're all interested where we're=20
heading. Effectively, the committee has been virtually non-existent.=20
Personally, I think this situation is not acceptable any longer!=20

Together we need to find new ways to reenergize our league. Most=20
importantly, we need to find a way that people actually have time to=20
develop the server as a primary part of their actual research. This=20
simulation environment is way to complex to handle its further=20
development properly only in spare time. Beyond calling for commitment=20
yet again every year at the RoboCup championships, maybe we need to=20
think about how the server development can be turned into a research=20
topic in its own right rather than concentrating research efforts on the=20
respective teams only. I think, the work done by the UTUtd team for the=20
3D development competition was a bold step in the right direction.=20

Let's start the discussions! Bring it ON!

Regards.

Tobias Warden (Virtual Werder 3D)

Am 22.12.2006 um 04:16 schrieb w jq:

>
> I just know one thing that any bugs in any projects should be eliminate=
d.
>
> I surely support your idea.but how?
>
>> From: Neo Satan <the...@ya... <mailto:the...@ya...>>
>> To: w jq <wj...@ho... <mailto:wj...@ho...>>
>> Subject: Re: [Sserver-three-d] Offside Bug Report
>> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:00:18 -0800 (PST)
>>
>> Great job pal,
>>
>> I don't want to dissapoint you, but it seems that if the comitee=20
>> wanted it=20
> to be solved (since it was seen in some long time), they whould have=20
> solved it simply by now, but that doesn't reduce the value of your job,
>>
>> I think a mail from all of us, or all of us a mail, to soccer simulato=
r=20
> comitee is needed to solve this problem,
>> What's your opinion?
>>
>>
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Tobias Warden
TZI - Center for Computing Technologies, Universitaet Bremen
Am Fallturm 1,  TAB (Entrance E),  Room 2.86, D-28359 Bremen
D-28334 Bremen, Germany

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