Re: [sserver-bugs] Re: [sserver-admin] server bug?

[Jan M. <mu...@un...>]

Hi Artur & Tom,

|You wrote:

> On Wed, 29 May 2002, Tom Howard wrote:
>> > from 3 : (hear 132 -45 our 3 "WQWXNdZFhU")
>> > from 1 : (hear 132 our 1)
>>
>> This is normal as per the protocol changes for this year.  It's described in
>> the NEWS file.
> Should we really spam the network communication with messages like
> "(hear 132 our 1)" which are not that useful at all?! I would prefer (if
> at all) sending it in a more compact way and in ONE message, for example:

> (hear 132 -45 our 3 "WQWXNdZFhU" our 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11)

You've got a point there. The short messages may help players to
decide to focus on one agent in the next cycle, so I think they should
not be dropped, but you're definitely right in proposing a compressed
version.

> ...

> same (or even worse)  applies to the thousands (66000) of

> (hear <int> opp)

> messages junked by a player during a game, and which really don't contain
> any useful information!

Yes, you're right. The (hear <time> opp) messages contain no useful
info at all (IMO) and in the worst case you may get ten of them in one
cycle plus one (hear <time> <dir> opp "blabla") message.


I'd probably go for a message format like this:
(hear <time> <dir> our <unum> "msg" <unums-of-talking-players>)
(hear <time> <dir> opp "msg" <number-of-talking-players>)


Example:
 (hear 2 0 our 2 "foo" 3 8 11) // players 3,8,11 said s.th. too
 (hear 43 66 opp "bar" 2)      // 2 more players said s.th.


I'm not sure if the changes should be made before Fukuoka because of
the short time left before the RC, but it's definitely something to
keep in mind for next year's server.


Jan