[Spyce-users] Re: Spyce 2.0

[Conan A. <co...@wa...>]

Thanks for the response.  A few comments:
>
> Conan Albrecht wrote:
>> - In the documentation, that active handler example has an extra 
>> slash at the top ([[\\).  I don't think that was intentional?
>
> It's intentional -- that's a "class chunk:"
> http://69.60.123.152/docs/doc-lang_chunkc.html
>

Since a lot of people come to python from java, it might be useful to 
mention in the docs that this is the equivalent of <%! ... %>.  Any JSP 
developer would immediately know what it means.

>
>> - The use of the self keyword in active handlers makes me wonder if 
>> they have to go to the same page.  Is this true or false?
>
> True.  It would require a much more sophisticated compiler to be 
> otherwise.  But, having developed applications in an environment with 
> a similar limitation (ASP.NET), it's not really a problem.  You can 
> still redirect in the handler.  (The to-do demo does this in at least 
> one place.)

The redirect is a great idea.  In fact, it almost makes sense to put 
handlers right in the same file if you then redirect to another page.  
This is almost like a controller!

Perhaps we should put in the docs the idea of redirection.  It would 
have immediately calmed my fears about it.

>
>> - We need an explicit message somewhere about the change in absolute 
>> paths (includes, redirects, etc) to the web root.  This is going to 
>> break a lot of people's installations.  They need to know about it 
>> before installing so it doesn't come as a surprise.  Where is the 
>> best location to put it?
>
> It's in the changelog; if I were upgrading that seems like the logical 
> place to look.  Backwards incompatibilities are *d for convenience. 
> I'll add an "important incompatibilities" section to make it stand out 
> even more.

Thanks for adding the "important incompatibilities" section.  I know we 
are supposed to read the changelog, but a lot of people don't.  Of 
course, I read them thoroughly...right after I study the license 
agreement for a while. :)  j/k

>
>> - I still maintain that we need a struts-like front controller 
>> included in the main spyce distribution.  Perhaps we can modify 
>> active handlers to be controller-supported.  For example, the handler 
>> function could be in a regular python file and then a view returned.
>
> I'm not sure how that differs in principle from what 2.0 gives you in 
> the form of handler-plus-redirect.  (Handlers can be in separate .py 
> files; spyce will even auto-import them for you:
> http://69.60.123.152/docs/doc-tag_form.html#submit; also
> http://69.60.123.152/docs/doc-lang_handlers.html)
>

Agreed.  The handler-plus-redirect really does this idea well.