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Re: [Springframework-developer] JTA and JDBC 3.0 SavePoints

[Jeppe C. <je...@cr...>]

Hi Thomas

As I understand it, SavePoints doesn't directly change the JDBC 
transaction, you use the JDBC Connection methods to merely issue SQL 
statements that inform the DB (and it's transaction) that it needs to 
remember savepoints during it's transaction?
But again, it's just a guess based on my assumptions (naive perhaps) on 
the implementations below.

Have anyone tried using SavePoints under JTA?

/Jeppe

Thomas Risberg wrote:
> I'll go the other way - just because the methods are part of the API
> doesn't mean that you can use them whenever you want.  My guess is that
> your JTA implementation will throw an exception if you mess with any
> method that manages the JDBC transactions.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
> Jeppe Cramon wrote:
>   
>> Hi Rod
>>
>> Thanks for the quick reply.
>>
>> My interpretation is that since it's standard JDBC it's (of course) supported under JTA.
>> But since no one on the team could find anything that stated that it was or wasn't supported, then most unfortunately assumed that it wasn't supported, which is why I went to ask here.
>>
>> The reason why we're looking at JTA is that we want to be able to use XA when the need arises (which it will because we at a point need to use MQ).
>> But since Spring emulated nested transactions aren't available using the JTATransactionManager (or the WebSphere counterpart of it), we were considering writing our own nested trx simulation using SavePoints (since the part where
>> we control the nested transactions is well encapsulated). But since no one had tried it before and since most had determined (without facts or at least trying it) that SavePoints doesn't work under JTA we were kind of stuck. 
>> But you helped us out of it ;-)
>>
>> Since we now know that SavePoints work under JTA, we should be able to head in the direction, unless of course you have an idea on how we can reuse the existing Spring nested trx. emulation code and still do XA/use MQ transactionally?
>>
>> Thanks :)
>>
>> /Jeppe
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> Savepoints are on the JDBC API, aren't they? So they should be 
>>> supported, *within JTA transaction management*. So you cannot use 
>>> Spring's nested transaction emulation with a JTA environment.
>>>
>>> Why do you want to use JTA?
>>>     
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Re: [Springframework-developer] JTA and JDBC 3.0 SavePoints

[Thomas R. <tho...@tr...>]

I'll go the other way - just because the methods are part of the API
doesn't mean that you can use them whenever you want.  My guess is that
your JTA implementation will throw an exception if you mess with any
method that manages the JDBC transactions.

Thomas



Jeppe Cramon wrote:
> Hi Rod
>
> Thanks for the quick reply.
>
> My interpretation is that since it's standard JDBC it's (of course) supported under JTA.
> But since no one on the team could find anything that stated that it was or wasn't supported, then most unfortunately assumed that it wasn't supported, which is why I went to ask here.
>
> The reason why we're looking at JTA is that we want to be able to use XA when the need arises (which it will because we at a point need to use MQ).
> But since Spring emulated nested transactions aren't available using the JTATransactionManager (or the WebSphere counterpart of it), we were considering writing our own nested trx simulation using SavePoints (since the part where
> we control the nested transactions is well encapsulated). But since no one had tried it before and since most had determined (without facts or at least trying it) that SavePoints doesn't work under JTA we were kind of stuck. 
> But you helped us out of it ;-)
>
> Since we now know that SavePoints work under JTA, we should be able to head in the direction, unless of course you have an idea on how we can reuse the existing Spring nested trx. emulation code and still do XA/use MQ transactionally?
>
> Thanks :)
>
> /Jeppe
>
>   
>> Savepoints are on the JDBC API, aren't they? So they should be 
>> supported, *within JTA transaction management*. So you cannot use 
>> Spring's nested transaction emulation with a JTA environment.
>>
>> Why do you want to use JTA?
>>     
>
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Re: [Springframework-developer] JTA and JDBC 3.0 SavePoints

[Jeppe C. <je...@cr...>]

Hi Rod

Thanks for the quick reply.

My interpretation is that since it's standard JDBC it's (of course) supported under JTA.
But since no one on the team could find anything that stated that it was or wasn't supported, then most unfortunately assumed that it wasn't supported, which is why I went to ask here.

The reason why we're looking at JTA is that we want to be able to use XA when the need arises (which it will because we at a point need to use MQ).
But since Spring emulated nested transactions aren't available using the JTATransactionManager (or the WebSphere counterpart of it), we were considering writing our own nested trx simulation using SavePoints (since the part where
we control the nested transactions is well encapsulated). But since no one had tried it before and since most had determined (without facts or at least trying it) that SavePoints doesn't work under JTA we were kind of stuck. 
But you helped us out of it ;-)

Since we now know that SavePoints work under JTA, we should be able to head in the direction, unless of course you have an idea on how we can reuse the existing Spring nested trx. emulation code and still do XA/use MQ transactionally?

Thanks :)

/Jeppe

> Savepoints are on the JDBC API, aren't they? So they should be 
> supported, *within JTA transaction management*. So you cannot use 
> Spring's nested transaction emulation with a JTA environment.
>
> Why do you want to use JTA?

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Re: [Springframework-developer] JTA and JDBC 3.0 SavePoints

[Rod J. <ro...@in...>]

Savepoints are on the JDBC API, aren't they? So they should be 
supported, *within JTA transaction management*. So you cannot use 
Spring's nested transaction emulation with a JTA environment.

Why do you want to use JTA?

Jeppe Cramon wrote:
> Hi
> 
> We've been using, with great success, the JPATransactionManagers (or 
> rather AbstractTransactionManagers) ability to do nested transactions 
> using JDBC 3.0 SavePoints.
> We're now looking at doing the same in a JTA setup. As JTA doesn't 
> support nested transactions, we were considering using JDBC 3.0 
> SavePoints, but I have so far not been able to find any information that 
> say that JDBC 3.0 SavePoints are supported in a JTA setup or not.
> Does any of you know if we can use SavePoints under JTA and could you 
> point to any information about this (wether it is allowed or not) ?
> 
> Thanks in advance and sorry for double posting on the forum, I didn't 
> have access to my mail account at the time and we need a figure this out 
> pretty soon :-)
> 
> /Jeppe
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[Springframework-developer] JTA and JDBC 3.0 SavePoints

[Jeppe C. <je...@cr...>]

Hi

We've been using, with great success, the JPATransactionManagers (or 
rather AbstractTransactionManagers) ability to do nested transactions 
using JDBC 3.0 SavePoints.
We're now looking at doing the same in a JTA setup. As JTA doesn't 
support nested transactions, we were considering using JDBC 3.0 
SavePoints, but I have so far not been able to find any information that 
say that JDBC 3.0 SavePoints are supported in a JTA setup or not.
Does any of you know if we can use SavePoints under JTA and could you 
point to any information about this (wether it is allowed or not) ?

Thanks in advance and sorry for double posting on the forum, I didn't 
have access to my mail account at the time and we need a figure this out 
pretty soon :-)

/Jeppe

Re: [Springframework-developer] [URGENT] I need Spring-beans_2_0.dtd

[Nicolas De L. <nic...@ca...>]

Thanks a lot !

I simply didn't think about looking in CVS :-[



Magnus Heino a =E9crit :
>> Can anyone send me a copy of this deprecated Spring-beans_2_0.dtd , as
>>    =20
>
> It's all in CVS. I guess this is what you want?
>
> http://springframework.cvs.sourceforge.net/springframework/spring/src/o=
rg/springframework/beans/factory/xml/spring-beans_2_0.dtd?hideattic=3D0&r=
evision=3D1.2&view=3Dmarkup
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Re: [Springframework-developer] [URGENT] I need Spring-beans_2_0.dtd

[Nicolas De L. <nic...@ca...>]

I'm using session scope, so 2.0 DTD is required. I cannot use spring XSD=20
as target server is Websphere 5.0.2 and the included Xerces parser=20
doens't support them.

I agree the context correction isn't so difficult, but my boss becomes=20
nervous about making changes as we deliver the app today !

Simply addind the DTD in my classpath under=20
org/springframework/beans/factory/xml should solve the issue. This=20
release is not the final one, so we will use the official DTD ASAP, but=20
I need a quick solution for this !


Juergen Hoeller a =E9crit :
> Note that the _2_0 DTD was introduced *post* RC3; it was only ever used=
 in
> early RC4 snapshots. Hence, it was never available in an official Sprin=
g
> release.
>
> Do you use any new 2.0 DTD features at all? If not, you could simply de=
clare
> "spring-beans.dtd" (which is still supported and shipped in spring.jar,
> including the "singleton" attribute).
>
> If you do use 2.0 DTD features, I'd recommend to declare
> "spring-beans-2.0.dtd" and simply do a text search-and-replace from
>
>   singleton=3D"true"  to  scope=3D"singleton"
>
> and from
>
>   singleton=3D"false"  to  scope=3D"prototype"
>
> It really shouldn't be more than that. This shouldn't take more than a =
few
> seconds of work, and is certainly safer than using an unsupported versi=
on of
> the DTD.
>
> Juergen
> =20
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> Spring 2.0 RC4 has renamed Spring-beans_2_0.dtd  to Spring-beans-2.0.dt=
d
>
> As Spring-beans_2_0.dtd was not present in spring 2.0-RC3 jars my
> application required to connect to internet to get it. I didn't see thi=
s as
> my integration server is connected to the net.
>
> Can anyone send me a copy of this deprecated Spring-beans_2_0.dtd , as =
my
> app will be send to my customer today and I've no time to update my spr=
ing
> configuration, that is no more valid according to new DTD (singleton
> attribute is used).
>
> Nico.
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Re: [Springframework-developer] [URGENT] I need Spring-beans_2_0.dtd

[Magnus H. <ma...@fi...>]

> Can anyone send me a copy of this deprecated Spring-beans_2_0.dtd , as

It's all in CVS. I guess this is what you want?

http://springframework.cvs.sourceforge.net/springframework/spring/src/org/springframework/beans/factory/xml/spring-beans_2_0.dtd?hideattic=0&revision=1.2&view=markup

-- 

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Re: [Springframework-developer] [URGENT] I need Spring-beans_2_0.dtd

[Juergen H. <ju...@in...>]

Note that the _2_0 DTD was introduced *post* RC3; it was only ever used in
early RC4 snapshots. Hence, it was never available in an official Spring
release.

Do you use any new 2.0 DTD features at all? If not, you could simply declare
"spring-beans.dtd" (which is still supported and shipped in spring.jar,
including the "singleton" attribute).

If you do use 2.0 DTD features, I'd recommend to declare
"spring-beans-2.0.dtd" and simply do a text search-and-replace from

  singleton="true"  to  scope="singleton"

and from

  singleton="false"  to  scope="prototype"

It really shouldn't be more than that. This shouldn't take more than a few
seconds of work, and is certainly safer than using an unsupported version of
the DTD.

Juergen
 

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Of Nicolas De Loof
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:20 PM
To: spr...@li...
Subject: [Springframework-developer] [URGENT] I need Spring-beans_2_0.dtd


Spring 2.0 RC4 has renamed Spring-beans_2_0.dtd  to Spring-beans-2.0.dtd

As Spring-beans_2_0.dtd was not present in spring 2.0-RC3 jars my
application required to connect to internet to get it. I didn't see this as
my integration server is connected to the net.

Can anyone send me a copy of this deprecated Spring-beans_2_0.dtd , as my
app will be send to my customer today and I've no time to update my spring
configuration, that is no more valid according to new DTD (singleton
attribute is used).

Nico.




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[Springframework-developer] [URGENT] I need Spring-beans_2_0.dtd

[Nicolas De L. <nic...@ca...>]

Spring 2.0 RC4 has renamed Spring-beans_2_0.dtd  to Spring-beans-2.0.dtd

As Spring-beans_2_0.dtd was not present in spring 2.0-RC3 jars my 
application required to connect to internet to get it. I didn't see this 
as my integration server is connected to the net.

Can anyone send me a copy of this deprecated Spring-beans_2_0.dtd , as 
my app will be send to my customer today and I've no time to update my 
spring configuration, that is no more valid according to new DTD 
(singleton attribute is used).

Nico.




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Re: [Springframework-developer] Spring build.32 SUCCEEDED

[Steve B. <ste...@fo...>]

> Snapshot has been uploaded to http://www.springframework.org/snaphots

Minor problem I'm aware, but there's a typo in the build notifier.
Presumably this URL should actually be:

http://www.springframework.org/snapshots

Cheers,

steve

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Re: [Springframework-developer] Autobuilds jpetstore compile issue

[Juergen H. <ju...@in...>]

Effectively, those autobuilds are not really maintained anymore. Is anybody
still using them straight from CVS? I guess we should consider removing them
from CVS completely...

Juergen
 

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To: spr...@li...
Subject: [Springframework-developer] Autobuilds jpetstore compile issue

Hi-
I was experimenting with the "mb-server-tests" target from the spring
build.xml. I get compilation issues from the jpetstore under autobuilds/app.
Is that supposed to compile successfully?

There are several dao ibatis classes there referring to SqlMapDaoSupport,
which doesn't exist in 2.x.
Looking at the the jpetstore under samples, it uses SqlMapClientDaoSupport
instead. I made equivalent changes to get it to compile and have those
changes.

Apologies if this isn't the best place to post. I'm just trying to find the
best way to report the issue or even supply a fix?

regards,
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[Springframework-developer] Spring Webflow and Conversation Locking

[Scott B. <sco...@ru...>]

We've recently encountered an issue with JDK 1.5 and Spring Web Flow 1.0 
RC3 in which our threads were having problems obtaining locks.[1].  
We've only seen the issue in production and not in test (we're not sure 
why yet).

The application we are having issues with is CAS[2], which has a basic 
web flow that for the most part merely is a GET/POST.[3]  We use Web 
Flow to prevent the re-submission of credentials by using the back 
button and re-POST.

To get around the locking problem we've encountered, we've temporarily 
modified the ConversationLockFactory to return NoOp locks (essentially 
disabling locking like Java 1.4 does) while we continue to investigate.  
Are there any significant issues with disabling locking?  If not, is 
there another way to configure Spring Web Flow to disable locking so 
that we do not have to fork the code?

Thanks
-Scott

1. http://forum.springframework.org/showthread.php?t=29027
2. http://www.ja-sig.org/products/cas/
3. 
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[Springframework-developer] Autobuilds jpetstore compile issue

[<rst...@ya...>]

Hi-
I was experimenting with the "mb-server-tests" target
from the spring build.xml. I get compilation issues
from the jpetstore under autobuilds/app. Is that
supposed to compile successfully?

There are several dao ibatis classes there referring
to SqlMapDaoSupport, which doesn't exist in 2.x.
Looking at the the jpetstore under samples, it uses
SqlMapClientDaoSupport instead. I made equivalent
changes to get it to compile and have those changes.

Apologies if this isn't the best place to post. I'm
just trying to find the best way to report the issue
or even supply a fix?

regards,
Rossen

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[Springframework-developer] Spring Framework 2.0 RC4 released

[Juergen H. <ju...@in...>]

Dear Spring community,

I'm pleased to announce that Spring 2.0 RC4 has been released. This is the
last release candidate before Spring 2.0 final.

This release introduces versioned file names for the 2.0 DTD/XSDs. Please
adapt your bean definition files if they build on the 2.0 XSDs on or
2.0-specific DTD features! Of course, the Spring 1.2 DTD is still fully
supported under its established DTD file name.

Furthermore, Apache OJB support (org.springframework.orm.ojb) is no longer
shipped with the core Spring distribution anymore as of this release. It is
now available from the Spring Modules project.

Spring's JPA support is now fully tested against Oracle TopLink Essentials
v2 b16 as well as Hibernate EntityManager 3.2.0 CR2. Our extensive
integration test suite fully passes for both of those JPA providers now. We
are currently in the process of covering OpenJPA in the same fashion.

As always, there are many further bug fixes and refinements in various
areas, as well as minor new features (for example in the JMS support).
Please see the changelog and/or our JIRA issue list for details.

Spring 2.0 GA is now - finally - just around the corner :-)

Cheers,

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