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Re: [Springframework-developer] @Configurable not beeing inherited

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What do you mean by "AspectJ honours Java semantics" ? My business=20
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Is this an unexpected behaviour of AspectJ Weaver ?

Adrian Colyer a =E9crit :
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Re: [Springframework-developer] @Configurable not beeing inherited

[Adrian C. <adr...@in...>]

Yes, this is the expected behaviour. AspectJ honours Java semantics, and 
the Java rules for annotations are that they are never inherited from an 
interface (so from the perspective of Java and AspectJ, the class that 
you instantiate does *not* have the @Configurable annotation, even if it 
implements an interface that does).

Regards, Adrian.

Nicolas De Loof wrote:
> I have a business objet that implements an interface marked as 
> "@Configurable".
> AspectJ weaving enhances my business object as expected, but the 
> AnnotationBeanWiringInfoResolver doesn't extracts BeanWiringInfo as my 
> object class isn't itself annotated.
>
> Is this the expected behavious ?
> Couldn't the AnnotationBeanWiringInfoResolver search in the classe 
> hierarchy for @Configurable ? (Maybe as an optional behaviour)
>
> Nico.
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[Springframework-developer] @Configurable not beeing inherited

[Nicolas De L. <nic...@ca...>]

I have a business objet that implements an interface marked as 
"@Configurable".
AspectJ weaving enhances my business object as expected, but the 
AnnotationBeanWiringInfoResolver doesn't extracts BeanWiringInfo as my 
object class isn't itself annotated.

Is this the expected behavious ?
Couldn't the AnnotationBeanWiringInfoResolver search in the classe 
hierarchy for @Configurable ? (Maybe as an optional behaviour)

Nico.



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[Springframework-developer] Please reopen MOD-33

[Nicolas De L. <nic...@ca...>]

I've commented 
http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/spring/browse/MOD-33 but cannot 
re-open the issue (?).

Spring-modules adds support for commons-chain but has no struts-specific 
support.

I like to use the AutowiringTilesRequestProcessor to get my action 
configured. There is no equivalent "command" for Struts 1.3 CoR request 
processor.

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Re: [Springframework-developer] Autobuilds jpetstore compile issue

[Colin S. <col...@ex...>]

Well jpetstore aside, the ejbtest & integration projects under 
autobuilds were actually still maintained relatively recently, while 
1.2.x was still HEAD. They do have some use as they test some things 
that are not testable via unit tests...

Colin

On 9/19/2006 5:51 AM, Juergen Hoeller wrote:
> Effectively, those autobuilds are not really maintained anymore. Is anybody
> still using them straight from CVS? I guess we should consider removing them
> from CVS completely...
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> Juergen
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> Hi-
> I was experimenting with the "mb-server-tests" target from the spring
> build.xml. I get compilation issues from the jpetstore under autobuilds/app.
> Is that supposed to compile successfully?
>
> There are several dao ibatis classes there referring to SqlMapDaoSupport,
> which doesn't exist in 2.x.
> Looking at the the jpetstore under samples, it uses SqlMapClientDaoSupport
> instead. I made equivalent changes to get it to compile and have those
> changes.
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> Apologies if this isn't the best place to post. I'm just trying to find the
> best way to report the issue or even supply a fix?
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Re: [Springframework-developer] JTA and JDBC 3.0 SavePoints

[Juergen H. <ju...@in...>]

To the best of my understanding, a combination of JTA transaction control
and explicit JDBC savepoint management can't be expected to work properly.
While it *may* be allowed to call the JDBC savepoint methods, the end result
is very likely not what you expect, since the underlying JDBC connection is
in XA mode, where the DBMS is essentially in a very different mode of
transactional operation.
 
Some JTA providers do support nested transactions through the *JTA API*
itself: simply accepting another begin-commit/rollback pair within an active
JTA transaction. This is essentially what our JtaTransactionManager relies
on when it encounters PROPAGATION_NESTED. For example, the recently
open-sourced Atomikos Transactions (http://www.atomikos.com/home.html)
explicitly supports that model.
 
Juergen
 

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Of Jeppe Cramon
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:33 PM
To: spr...@li...
Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] JTA and JDBC 3.0 SavePoints


Hi Thomas

As I understand it, SavePoints doesn't directly change the JDBC transaction,
you use the JDBC Connection methods to merely issue SQL statements that
inform the DB (and it's transaction) that it needs to remember savepoints
during it's transaction?
But again, it's just a guess based on my assumptions (naive perhaps) on the
implementations below.

Have anyone tried using SavePoints under JTA?

/Jeppe

Thomas Risberg wrote: 

I'll go the other way - just because the methods are part of the API

doesn't mean that you can use them whenever you want.  My guess is that

your JTA implementation will throw an exception if you mess with any

method that manages the JDBC transactions.



Thomas







Jeppe Cramon wrote:

  

Hi Rod



Thanks for the quick reply.



My interpretation is that since it's standard JDBC it's (of course)
supported under JTA.

But since no one on the team could find anything that stated that it was or
wasn't supported, then most unfortunately assumed that it wasn't supported,
which is why I went to ask here.



The reason why we're looking at JTA is that we want to be able to use XA
when the need arises (which it will because we at a point need to use MQ).

But since Spring emulated nested transactions aren't available using the
JTATransactionManager (or the WebSphere counterpart of it), we were
considering writing our own nested trx simulation using SavePoints (since
the part where

we control the nested transactions is well encapsulated). But since no one
had tried it before and since most had determined (without facts or at least
trying it) that SavePoints doesn't work under JTA we were kind of stuck. 

But you helped us out of it ;-)



Since we now know that SavePoints work under JTA, we should be able to head
in the direction, unless of course you have an idea on how we can reuse the
existing Spring nested trx. emulation code and still do XA/use MQ
transactionally?



Thanks :)



/Jeppe



  

    

Savepoints are on the JDBC API, aren't they? So they should be 

supported, *within JTA transaction management*. So you cannot use 

Spring's nested transaction emulation with a JTA environment.



Why do you want to use JTA?

    

      

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Re: [Springframework-developer] JTA and JDBC 3.0 SavePoints

[Thomas R. <tho...@tr...>]

I've never tried it using JTA.  I think you are in pretty much
unchartered territory here.

You can always issue the SAVEPOINT sql statements yourself, if you can't
use the JDBC API - might not work once you start using global
transactions though.  This Oracle error might give a hint of what to
expect - ORA-17117 could not set savepoint in an active global
transaction  :)

Thomas


Jeppe Cramon wrote:
> Hi Thomas
>
> As I understand it, SavePoints doesn't directly change the JDBC
> transaction, you use the JDBC Connection methods to merely issue SQL
> statements that inform the DB (and it's transaction) that it needs to
> remember savepoints during it's transaction?
> But again, it's just a guess based on my assumptions (naive perhaps)
> on the implementations below.
>
> Have anyone tried using SavePoints under JTA?
>
> /Jeppe
>
> Thomas Risberg wrote:
>> I'll go the other way - just because the methods are part of the API
>> doesn't mean that you can use them whenever you want.  My guess is that
>> your JTA implementation will throw an exception if you mess with any
>> method that manages the JDBC transactions.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeppe Cramon wrote:
>>   
>>> Hi Rod
>>>
>>> Thanks for the quick reply.
>>>
>>> My interpretation is that since it's standard JDBC it's (of course) supported under JTA.
>>> But since no one on the team could find anything that stated that it was or wasn't supported, then most unfortunately assumed that it wasn't supported, which is why I went to ask here.
>>>
>>> The reason why we're looking at JTA is that we want to be able to use XA when the need arises (which it will because we at a point need to use MQ).
>>> But since Spring emulated nested transactions aren't available using the JTATransactionManager (or the WebSphere counterpart of it), we were considering writing our own nested trx simulation using SavePoints (since the part where
>>> we control the nested transactions is well encapsulated). But since no one had tried it before and since most had determined (without facts or at least trying it) that SavePoints doesn't work under JTA we were kind of stuck. 
>>> But you helped us out of it ;-)
>>>
>>> Since we now know that SavePoints work under JTA, we should be able to head in the direction, unless of course you have an idea on how we can reuse the existing Spring nested trx. emulation code and still do XA/use MQ transactionally?
>>>
>>> Thanks :)
>>>
>>> /Jeppe
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>> Savepoints are on the JDBC API, aren't they? So they should be 
>>>> supported, *within JTA transaction management*. So you cannot use 
>>>> Spring's nested transaction emulation with a JTA environment.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you want to use JTA?
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Re: [Springframework-developer] JTA and JDBC 3.0 SavePoints

[Jeppe C. <je...@cr...>]

I found this reference that relates to DB2: 
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/db2v7luw/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.db2v7.doc/db2a0/db2a044.htm


      Savepoints and XA Compliant Transaction Managers
      <http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/db2v7luw/topic/com.ibm.db2v7.doc/db2a0/apps.htm#PToC_199>

If there are any active savepoints in an application when an XA 
compliant transaction manager issues an XA_END request, DB2 issues a 
RELEASE SAVEPOINT statement.

If that means that WebSpheres JTA will also allow I dunno, but it seems 
that SAVEPOINTS are tied with the XA, but merely controlled by the DB 
which will react upon the XA....
It's late, I hope this made sense ;)

/Jeppe

Thomas Risberg wrote:
> I'll go the other way - just because the methods are part of the API
> doesn't mean that you can use them whenever you want.  My guess is that
> your JTA implementation will throw an exception if you mess with any
> method that manages the JDBC transactions.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
> Jeppe Cramon wrote:
>   
>> Hi Rod
>>
>> Thanks for the quick reply.
>>
>> My interpretation is that since it's standard JDBC it's (of course) supported under JTA.
>> But since no one on the team could find anything that stated that it was or wasn't supported, then most unfortunately assumed that it wasn't supported, which is why I went to ask here.
>>
>> The reason why we're looking at JTA is that we want to be able to use XA when the need arises (which it will because we at a point need to use MQ).
>> But since Spring emulated nested transactions aren't available using the JTATransactionManager (or the WebSphere counterpart of it), we were considering writing our own nested trx simulation using SavePoints (since the part where
>> we control the nested transactions is well encapsulated). But since no one had tried it before and since most had determined (without facts or at least trying it) that SavePoints doesn't work under JTA we were kind of stuck. 
>> But you helped us out of it ;-)
>>
>> Since we now know that SavePoints work under JTA, we should be able to head in the direction, unless of course you have an idea on how we can reuse the existing Spring nested trx. emulation code and still do XA/use MQ transactionally?
>>
>> Thanks :)
>>
>> /Jeppe
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> Savepoints are on the JDBC API, aren't they? So they should be 
>>> supported, *within JTA transaction management*. So you cannot use 
>>> Spring's nested transaction emulation with a JTA environment.
>>>
>>> Why do you want to use JTA?
>>>     
>>>       
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