Re: [Springframework-developer] RE: About CGLIB2

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+1 here for the same reason :)

On 12/12/03 4:55 AM, "Alef Arendsen" (al...@jt...) penned the words:

> YEAH!!
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> This means we can update to Hibernate 2.1 :)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: spr...@li...
> [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf
> Of tri...@tr...
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:47 PM
> To: spr...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] RE: About CGLIB2
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> Thomas
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> Quoting Colin Sampaleanu <col...@ex...>:
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>> I vote for updating to cglib2 now. I do realize different people have
>> other criteria/priorities, but we've been using Hibenate 2.1betas with
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>> Spring since August, with no issues, and ideally would want to move to
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>> the final version.
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>> My feeling is that most Hibernate users have already switched to 2.1,
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>> will do so very soon, as there are no backwards compatibility issues
>> with doing so, and some strong advantages.
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>> j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] wrote:
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>>> Everybody,
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>>> Hibernate 2.1 final with CGLIB2 underneath has just been released.
>>> This
>> poses the question whether we should still release our 1.0 M4 with
>> CGLIB1 support. Of course, our current codebase works nicely with
>> Hibernate 2.1 as long as you don't use CGLIB-based AOP proxies (i.e.
>> proxy full target objects instead of just interfaces), so we don't
>> *have* to update immediately.
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>>> Migrating our AOP proxy generation to CGLIB2 should be
>>> straightforward.
>> Afterwards, it will be the other way round in terms of compatibility:
>> Hibernate 2.0 will still work with a current Spring release as long as
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>> you don't use CGLIB-based AOP proxies. In any case, the most important
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>> rule is to just have the CGLIB version needed by your Hibernate
>> version in the class path.
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>>> CGLIB2 is at RC1 in the meantime, so building on it now would be
>>> viable. In
>> the face of this situation, does everybody still prefer deferred
>> CGLIB2 support at the time of our RC1? I vote for migrating already in
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>> M4, to allow for CGLIB-based AOP proxies in combination with Hibernate
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>> 2.1 promptly. After all, typical Spring users will choose to work with
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>> the most current recommended Hibernate version.
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>>> Not that this was a really important criterion, but nevertheless:
>>> Chris,
>> when do you expect CGLIB2 final?
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>>> Juergen
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: spr...@li...
>>> [mailto:spr...@li...]On
>>> Behalf Of Alef Arendsen (JTeam)
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:20 PM
>>> To: spr...@li...
>>> Subject: About CGLIB2 (was: RE: [Springframework-developer] Release
>>> plan)
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>>> Juergen (et al),
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>>> So the current plan is:
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>>> - M4  (CGLIB1): just before X-mas
>>> - RC1 (CGLIB2): 2nd week of January or something.
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>>> Is there any idea on when CGLIB2 support is to be introduced (I heard
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>>> supporting both of them at a time is a hassle or at least too much
>>> work). We've currently got a project (Spring + Hibernate 2.1)
>>> underway of which a initial release is targetted for the 12th of
>>> January.
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>>> Are there going to be significant changes when moving from CGLIB1 to
>>> 2 (which will force me to stick with M4 for that particular project)
>>> or is it going to be a smooth transition without much impact?
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>>> Thanks!
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>>> Alef
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>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>>> Van: spr...@li...
>>>> [mailto:spr...@li...]
>>>> Namens j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT]
>>>> Verzonden: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:27 PM
>>>> Aan: spr...@li...
>>>> Onderwerp: [Springframework-developer] Release plan
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>>>> Guys,
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>>>> We need to settle on a concrete roadmap.
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>>>> Despite our initial plans to go straight to RC1, I'm inclined
>>>> to vote for an M4 in two weeks' time, with the significant
>>>> reworkings that have been introduced in the meantime (in the
>>>> bean factory and AOP area), with the current state of the
>>>> docs, and still with CGLIB1. We can also introduce our
>>>> JPetStore version with that release.
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>>>> I suggest to target RC1 for early January then, with CGLIB2
>>>> and - most importantly - a proper reference manual. In the
>>>> ideal case, 1.0 final could be ready at the end of January.
>>>> M4 would correspond to a feature freeze, with full
>>>> concentration on bugfixes and docs afterwards. RC1 should
>>>> already be as good as it gets, a true "release candidate".
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>>>> Juergen
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: spr...@li...
>>>> [mailto:spr...@li...]
>>>> On Behalf Of Matthew E. Porter
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:37 PM
>>>> To: spr...@li...
>>>> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate 2.1 and CGLIB
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>>>> This was a good answer since it provides a roadmap.  Can someone
>>>> post
>>>> this on the wiki or the website for others who may have the same
>>>> question?
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>>>> Cheers,
>>>>   matthew
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>>>> On Dec 1, 2003, at 11:04 AM, j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] wrote:
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>>>>> Hi Matthew,
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>>>>> We've been discussing that for a while. If Hibernate 2.1 gets final
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>>>>> early enough (and it seems to, being already in RC1 stage), we will
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>>>>> switch to it for our 1.0 RCs. If 2.1 would still be far
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>>>> from final, we
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>>>>> would probably have to support both CGLIB1 and CGLIB2 somehow.
>>>>> Fortunately, that seems not to be necessary anymore!
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>>>>> For the time being, if you don't proxy full classes (but just
>>>>> interfaces) or don't use Spring AOP in the first place, you
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>>>> should be
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>>>>> able to work with Hibernate 2.1 and its CGLIB2 without hassle. The
>>>>> same will apply to Hibernate 2.0 users after we've moved to CGLIB2:
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>>>>> You don't need to worry if you don't use Spring AOP will
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>>>> full proxies.
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>>>>> I think we can live with requiring an update to Hibernate 2.1 if a
>>>>> user wants full AOP proxies in combination. Actually, we probably
>>>>> *need* to move to CGLIB2 once Hibernate 2.1 final is
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>>>> released: Power
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>>>>> users will want to combine full Spring AOP proxying with
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>>>> the current
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>>>>> Hibernate version, not with a previous one.
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>>>>> Now it would be really great if CGLIB2 were final too until
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>>>> Spring 1.0
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>>>>> final! :-) It's no problem to ship a CGLIB2 beta with our upcoming
>>>>> Spring 1.0 RC1, but it worries me to include a CGLIB2 beta
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>>>> in Spring
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>>>>> 1.0 final. Haven't the Hibernate guys the same problem? Or are they
>>>>> fine with shipping a CGLIB2 beta with Hibernate 2.1 final?
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>>>>> So I suggest to release our 1.0 RC1 shortly after Hibernate
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>>>> 2.1 final,
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>>>>> already with CGLIB2 support. As I said, we will just force
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>>>> users with
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>>>>> full AOP proxies to upgrade to Hibernate 2.1 if using the two in
>>>>> combination. We could release a 1.0 M4 shortly before that though,
>>>>> still with CGLIB1 - to ease migration paths for Hibernate 2.0
> users.
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>>>>> Juergen
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: spr...@li...
>>>>> [mailto:spr...@li...]On
>>>>> Behalf Of Matthew E. Porter
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:06 PM
>>>>> To: spr...@li...
>>>>> Subject: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate 2.1 and CGLIB
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>>>>> I have looked through the mailing list archives but was
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>>>> unable to find
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>>>>> the answer to my question.  Will Spring move to support
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>>>> Hibernate 2.1
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>>>>> (as it is the new *recommended* version) and, if so, when?
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>>>>> Also, does anyone know if I can use it now with the cglib version
>>>>> change?
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>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>   matthew
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