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Re: [Springframework-developer] RE: About CGLIB2
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2003-12-11 15:48:05
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Yes, getting rid of that bloated beast will clear up 500k! BCELAttributes and BCELAttributeWriter from the Sandbox can still be accessed from CVS history when we want to do the new versions... Rod Johnson wrote: >Would this also mean doing away with BCEL for good (a good idea)? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Colin Sampaleanu" <col...@ex...> >To: <spr...@li...> >Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 3:24 PM >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] RE: About CGLIB2 > > > > >>I vote for updating to cglib2 now. I do realize different people have >>other criteria/priorities, but we've been using Hibenate 2.1betas with >>Spring since August, with no issues, and ideally would want to move to >>the final version. >> >>My feeling is that most Hibernate users have already switched to 2.1, or >>will do so very soon, as there are no backwards compatibility issues >>with doing so, and some strong advantages. >> >> >>jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: >> >> >> >>>Everybody, >>> >>>Hibernate 2.1 final with CGLIB2 underneath has just been released. This >>> >>> >poses the question whether we should still release our 1.0 M4 with CGLIB1 >support. Of course, our current codebase works nicely with Hibernate 2.1 as >long as you don't use CGLIB-based AOP proxies (i.e. proxy full target >objects instead of just interfaces), so we don't *have* to update >immediately. > > >>>Migrating our AOP proxy generation to CGLIB2 should be straightforward. >>> >>> >Afterwards, it will be the other way round in terms of compatibility: >Hibernate 2.0 will still work with a current Spring release as long as you >don't use CGLIB-based AOP proxies. In any case, the most important rule is >to just have the CGLIB version needed by your Hibernate version in the class >path. > > >>>CGLIB2 is at RC1 in the meantime, so building on it now would be viable. >>> >>> >In the face of this situation, does everybody still prefer deferred CGLIB2 >support at the time of our RC1? I vote for migrating already in M4, to allow >for CGLIB-based AOP proxies in combination with Hibernate 2.1 promptly. >After all, typical Spring users will choose to work with the most current >recommended Hibernate version. > > >>>Not that this was a really important criterion, but nevertheless: Chris, >>> >>> >when do you expect CGLIB2 final? > > >>>Juergen >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: spr...@li... >>>[mailto:spr...@li...]On Behalf >>>Of Alef Arendsen (JTeam) >>>Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:20 PM >>>To: spr...@li... >>>Subject: About CGLIB2 (was: RE: [Springframework-developer] Release >>>plan) >>> >>> >>>Juergen (et al), >>> >>>So the current plan is: >>> >>>- M4 (CGLIB1): just before X-mas >>>- RC1 (CGLIB2): 2nd week of January or something. >>> >>>Is there any idea on when CGLIB2 support is to be introduced (I heard >>>supporting both of them at a time is a hassle or at least too much >>>work). We've currently got a project (Spring + Hibernate 2.1) underway >>>of which a initial release is targetted for the 12th of January. >>> >>>Are there going to be significant changes when moving from CGLIB1 to 2 >>>(which will force me to stick with M4 for that particular project) or is >>>it going to be a smooth transition without much impact? >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>>Alef >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>>Van: spr...@li... >>>>[mailto:spr...@li...] >>>>Namens jürgen höller [werk3AT] >>>>Verzonden: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:27 PM >>>>Aan: spr...@li... >>>>Onderwerp: [Springframework-developer] Release plan >>>> >>>> >>>>Guys, >>>> >>>>We need to settle on a concrete roadmap. >>>> >>>>Despite our initial plans to go straight to RC1, I'm inclined >>>>to vote for an M4 in two weeks' time, with the significant >>>>reworkings that have been introduced in the meantime (in the >>>>bean factory and AOP area), with the current state of the >>>>docs, and still with CGLIB1. We can also introduce our >>>>JPetStore version with that release. >>>> >>>>I suggest to target RC1 for early January then, with CGLIB2 >>>>and - most importantly - a proper reference manual. In the >>>>ideal case, 1.0 final could be ready at the end of January. >>>>M4 would correspond to a feature freeze, with full >>>>concentration on bugfixes and docs afterwards. RC1 should >>>>already be as good as it gets, a true "release candidate". >>>> >>>>Juergen >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: spr...@li... >>>>[mailto:spr...@li...] >>>>On Behalf Of Matthew E. Porter >>>>Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:37 PM >>>>To: spr...@li... >>>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate 2.1 and CGLIB >>>> >>>> >>>>This was a good answer since it provides a roadmap. Can someone post >>>>this on the wiki or the website for others who may have the same >>>>question? >>>> >>>> >>>>Cheers, >>>> matthew >>>> >>>>On Dec 1, 2003, at 11:04 AM, jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Matthew, >>>>> >>>>>We've been discussing that for a while. If Hibernate 2.1 gets final >>>>>early enough (and it seems to, being already in RC1 stage), we will >>>>>switch to it for our 1.0 RCs. If 2.1 would still be far >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>from final, we >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>would probably have to support both CGLIB1 and CGLIB2 somehow. >>>>>Fortunately, that seems not to be necessary anymore! >>>>> >>>>>For the time being, if you don't proxy full classes (but just >>>>>interfaces) or don't use Spring AOP in the first place, you >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>should be >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>able to work with Hibernate 2.1 and its CGLIB2 without hassle. The >>>>>same will apply to Hibernate 2.0 users after we've moved to CGLIB2: >>>>>You don't need to worry if you don't use Spring AOP will >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>full proxies. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I think we can live with requiring an update to Hibernate 2.1 if a >>>>>user wants full AOP proxies in combination. Actually, we probably >>>>>*need* to move to CGLIB2 once Hibernate 2.1 final is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>released: Power >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>users will want to combine full Spring AOP proxying with >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>the current >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hibernate version, not with a previous one. >>>>> >>>>>Now it would be really great if CGLIB2 were final too until >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Spring 1.0 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>final! :-) It's no problem to ship a CGLIB2 beta with our upcoming >>>>>Spring 1.0 RC1, but it worries me to include a CGLIB2 beta >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>in Spring >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>1.0 final. Haven't the Hibernate guys the same problem? Or are they >>>>>fine with shipping a CGLIB2 beta with Hibernate 2.1 final? >>>>> >>>>>So I suggest to release our 1.0 RC1 shortly after Hibernate >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>2.1 final, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>already with CGLIB2 support. As I said, we will just force >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>users with >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>full AOP proxies to upgrade to Hibernate 2.1 if using the two in >>>>>combination. We could release a 1.0 M4 shortly before that though, >>>>>still with CGLIB1 - to ease migration paths for Hibernate 2.0 users. >>>>> >>>>>Juergen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: spr...@li... >>>>>[mailto:spr...@li...]On >>>>>Behalf Of Matthew E. Porter >>>>>Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:06 PM >>>>>To: spr...@li... >>>>>Subject: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate 2.1 and CGLIB >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I have looked through the mailing list archives but was >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>unable to find >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>the answer to my question. Will Spring move to support >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Hibernate 2.1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>(as it is the new *recommended* version) and, if so, when? >>>>> >>>>>Also, does anyone know if I can use it now with the cglib version >>>>>change? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, >>>>> matthew >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. >>Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's >>Free Linux Tutorials. 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