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From: <tri...@tr...> - 2003-12-11 15:47:13
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+1 Thomas Quoting Colin Sampaleanu <col...@ex...>: > I vote for updating to cglib2 now. I do realize different people have > other criteria/priorities, but we've been using Hibenate 2.1betas with > Spring since August, with no issues, and ideally would want to move to > the final version. > > My feeling is that most Hibernate users have already switched to 2.1, or > will do so very soon, as there are no backwards compatibility issues > with doing so, and some strong advantages. > > > jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: > > >Everybody, > > > >Hibernate 2.1 final with CGLIB2 underneath has just been released. This > poses the question whether we should still release our 1.0 M4 with CGLIB1 > support. Of course, our current codebase works nicely with Hibernate 2.1 as > long as you don't use CGLIB-based AOP proxies (i.e. proxy full target objects > instead of just interfaces), so we don't *have* to update immediately. > > > >Migrating our AOP proxy generation to CGLIB2 should be straightforward. > Afterwards, it will be the other way round in terms of compatibility: > Hibernate 2.0 will still work with a current Spring release as long as you > don't use CGLIB-based AOP proxies. In any case, the most important rule is to > just have the CGLIB version needed by your Hibernate version in the class > path. > > > >CGLIB2 is at RC1 in the meantime, so building on it now would be viable. In > the face of this situation, does everybody still prefer deferred CGLIB2 > support at the time of our RC1? I vote for migrating already in M4, to allow > for CGLIB-based AOP proxies in combination with Hibernate 2.1 promptly. After > all, typical Spring users will choose to work with the most current > recommended Hibernate version. > > > >Not that this was a really important criterion, but nevertheless: Chris, > when do you expect CGLIB2 final? > > > >Juergen > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: spr...@li... > >[mailto:spr...@li...]On Behalf > >Of Alef Arendsen (JTeam) > >Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:20 PM > >To: spr...@li... > >Subject: About CGLIB2 (was: RE: [Springframework-developer] Release > >plan) > > > > > >Juergen (et al), > > > >So the current plan is: > > > >- M4 (CGLIB1): just before X-mas > >- RC1 (CGLIB2): 2nd week of January or something. > > > >Is there any idea on when CGLIB2 support is to be introduced (I heard > >supporting both of them at a time is a hassle or at least too much > >work). We've currently got a project (Spring + Hibernate 2.1) underway > >of which a initial release is targetted for the 12th of January. > > > >Are there going to be significant changes when moving from CGLIB1 to 2 > >(which will force me to stick with M4 for that particular project) or is > >it going to be a smooth transition without much impact? > > > >Thanks! > > > >Alef > > > > > > > >>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >>Van: spr...@li... > >>[mailto:spr...@li...] > >> Namens jürgen höller [werk3AT] > >>Verzonden: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:27 PM > >>Aan: spr...@li... > >>Onderwerp: [Springframework-developer] Release plan > >> > >> > >>Guys, > >> > >>We need to settle on a concrete roadmap. > >> > >>Despite our initial plans to go straight to RC1, I'm inclined > >>to vote for an M4 in two weeks' time, with the significant > >>reworkings that have been introduced in the meantime (in the > >>bean factory and AOP area), with the current state of the > >>docs, and still with CGLIB1. We can also introduce our > >>JPetStore version with that release. > >> > >>I suggest to target RC1 for early January then, with CGLIB2 > >>and - most importantly - a proper reference manual. In the > >>ideal case, 1.0 final could be ready at the end of January. > >>M4 would correspond to a feature freeze, with full > >>concentration on bugfixes and docs afterwards. RC1 should > >>already be as good as it gets, a true "release candidate". > >> > >>Juergen > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: spr...@li... > >>[mailto:spr...@li...] > >>On Behalf Of Matthew E. Porter > >>Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:37 PM > >>To: spr...@li... > >>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate 2.1 and CGLIB > >> > >> > >>This was a good answer since it provides a roadmap. Can someone post > >>this on the wiki or the website for others who may have the same > >>question? > >> > >> > >>Cheers, > >> matthew > >> > >>On Dec 1, 2003, at 11:04 AM, jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi Matthew, > >>> > >>>We've been discussing that for a while. If Hibernate 2.1 gets final > >>>early enough (and it seems to, being already in RC1 stage), we will > >>>switch to it for our 1.0 RCs. If 2.1 would still be far > >>> > >>> > >>from final, we > >> > >> > >>>would probably have to support both CGLIB1 and CGLIB2 somehow. > >>>Fortunately, that seems not to be necessary anymore! > >>> > >>>For the time being, if you don't proxy full classes (but just > >>>interfaces) or don't use Spring AOP in the first place, you > >>> > >>> > >>should be > >> > >> > >>>able to work with Hibernate 2.1 and its CGLIB2 without hassle. The > >>>same will apply to Hibernate 2.0 users after we've moved to CGLIB2: > >>>You don't need to worry if you don't use Spring AOP will > >>> > >>> > >>full proxies. > >> > >> > >>>I think we can live with requiring an update to Hibernate 2.1 if a > >>>user wants full AOP proxies in combination. Actually, we probably > >>>*need* to move to CGLIB2 once Hibernate 2.1 final is > >>> > >>> > >>released: Power > >> > >> > >>>users will want to combine full Spring AOP proxying with > >>> > >>> > >>the current > >> > >> > >>>Hibernate version, not with a previous one. > >>> > >>>Now it would be really great if CGLIB2 were final too until > >>> > >>> > >>Spring 1.0 > >> > >> > >>>final! :-) It's no problem to ship a CGLIB2 beta with our upcoming > >>>Spring 1.0 RC1, but it worries me to include a CGLIB2 beta > >>> > >>> > >>in Spring > >> > >> > >>>1.0 final. Haven't the Hibernate guys the same problem? Or are they > >>>fine with shipping a CGLIB2 beta with Hibernate 2.1 final? > >>> > >>>So I suggest to release our 1.0 RC1 shortly after Hibernate > >>> > >>> > >>2.1 final, > >> > >> > >>>already with CGLIB2 support. As I said, we will just force > >>> > >>> > >>users with > >> > >> > >>>full AOP proxies to upgrade to Hibernate 2.1 if using the two in > >>>combination. We could release a 1.0 M4 shortly before that though, > >>>still with CGLIB1 - to ease migration paths for Hibernate 2.0 users. > >>> > >>>Juergen > >>> > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: spr...@li... > >>>[mailto:spr...@li...]On > >>>Behalf Of Matthew E. Porter > >>>Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:06 PM > >>>To: spr...@li... > >>>Subject: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate 2.1 and CGLIB > >>> > >>> > >>>I have looked through the mailing list archives but was > >>> > >>> > >>unable to find > >> > >> > >>>the answer to my question. Will Spring move to support > >>> > >>> > >>Hibernate 2.1 > >> > >> > >>>(as it is the new *recommended* version) and, if so, when? > >>> > >>>Also, does anyone know if I can use it now with the cglib version > >>>change? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Cheers, > >>> matthew > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. > Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's > Free Linux Tutorials. Learn everything from the bash shell to sys admin. > Click now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1278&alloc_id=3371&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > |