Re: [Springframework-developer] Releasing Tests?

[Janek B. <ya...@st...>]

On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 05:40, j=C3=BCrgen h=C3=B6ller [werk3AT] wrote:
> Darren,
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> I'm not sure if the samples add any complexity, but I think you're right =
about the test tree. So I suggest to refine the "light edition" from my las=
t mail to a 7.1 MB one with pre-built binaries, docs, framework sources, sa=
mple sources, but without tests and just the minimum set of third-party lib=
raries.
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> I think that it's very helpful to include framework sources in your IDE, =
to get better argument naming when overriding methods, quick navigation to =
sources of framework base classes, etc. I do that all the time with the JDK=
 and Hibernate; so do my werk3AT colleagues. And after all, Sun is shipping=
 the JDK with sources included - you just need to download the docs separat=
ely there. Hibernate and Log4J ship with out-of-the-box sources too.
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> Furthermore, I believe that the samples are important particularly for "j=
ust want to use it" people. After all, polished examples are a good compani=
on to proper framework documentation, easing the entry into the framework r=
ather than making it more complex, IMO.
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> Juergen
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As a new user of the framework I am finding it very useful to have the
sources available within the IDE. It is often easier to search the=20
sources to establish facts about the framework than to use the external
documentation.

On the size issue, as a 28.8k modem user (at one location) the size of
downloads (JBoss, JDKs) is an issue I normally solve by burning CD-Rs or
using USB drives at another location. So an few extra megabytes won't
affect me and shouldn't really be a consideration as I would guess other
users in a similar situation use a similar tactic with large downloads.=20

-Janek