Re: [Springframework-developer] Releasing Tests?

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Darren,
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I'm not sure if the samples add any complexity, but I think you're right =
about the test tree. So I suggest to refine the "light edition" from my =
last mail to a 7.1 MB one with pre-built binaries, docs, framework =
sources, sample sources, but without tests and just the minimum set of =
third-party libraries.
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I think that it's very helpful to include framework sources in your IDE, =
to get better argument naming when overriding methods, quick navigation =
to sources of framework base classes, etc. I do that all the time with =
the JDK and Hibernate; so do my werk3AT colleagues. And after all, Sun =
is shipping the JDK with sources included - you just need to download =
the docs separately there. Hibernate and Log4J ship with out-of-the-box =
sources too.
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Furthermore, I believe that the samples are important particularly for =
"just want to use it" people. After all, polished examples are a good =
companion to proper framework documentation, easing the entry into the =
framework rather than making it more complex, IMO.
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Juergen
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Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag =
von Rod Johnson
Gesendet: Do 11.12.2003 11:28
An: spr...@li...
Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] Releasing Tests?



I think we need a binary release also when we release 1.0 final.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Davison" <dda...@kg...>
To: <spr...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Releasing Tests?


> > Or the second release could just be the binaries. But I'm inclined
> > to agree with Mike that people don't much care about size of
> > download. Does anyone really download Spring over a modem? So I
> > would just stick with the single 14Mb download: it's a modest =
increase.
>
> I don't think it's so much the file size as the perceived complexity.
Opening
> the zip and seeing an enormous test tree along side the main source =
tree
and
> all the samples could make you think "boy, I don't have time to learn =
all
this
> stuff".
>
> A smaller download with just the vitals and some good doco can be a =
big
aide
> in promoting takeup among those who "just want to use it".  It's =
purely a
> mindset thing - I'm not suggesting that the additional increase in the =
zip
> really does add any complexity.  The argument perhaps makes a stronger
case
> too for a binary only file release which I'd also like to see.
>
> We could always give it a go and if the SF d/l stats show there's =
really
no
> need for the cut down versions, we can stop building them.
>
> --
> Darren Davison
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