Re: [Springframework-developer] Spring Wiki

[Mike Cannon-B. <mi...@at...>]

I would have to say that we strongly do not believe in vendor lock in :) If
you find a better product or one that suits your needs more, move to it.
Delaying your move is surely only delaying the inevitable, we need to make
our products better to succeed - not more painful to get away from.

Both JIRA and Confluence have multiple export options as well as clean
database schemas:
- JIRA has a full XML export of all data, as well as built in Jelly tags
which enable you to pull your data out easily
- Confluence can export any page, space or everything as XML, PDF, HTML or
(coming) text format.

M

On 9/12/03 9:46 AM, "Alef Arendsen" (al...@jt...) penned the words:

> We've talked about this before some time ago, and as far I can recall,
> also came to the conclusion we needed something like coWiki or
> something.
> 
> My guess is, that _if_ we are going to do something like that, we should
> have it ready before the 1.0 release (or just after it at the latest).
> Confluence sounds interesting indeed, but we've gotta be careful about a
> vendor lock-in :)). Ok, seriously now, my guess is that a lot of people
> will start using Spring after it's released and the infrastructure
> should be ready!
> 
> ?
> 
> Alef
> 
> 
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> 
> Well, that was unanimous 10-0 in favor - it is gone!  There were three
> documents  that I have added to the documentation page on the regular
> website.
> 
> Confluence sounds like an interesting option.  I agree that having an
> area for community contributions and documentation is very valuable -
> our current^H^H^H^H^H^H old wiki just wasn't the right format.
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> Quoting Mike Cannon-Brookes <mi...@at...>:
> 
>> I agree - the OpenSymphony wiki has been invaluble in generating
>> useful documentation and 'cookbook' style information from users, in
>> less than 6 months it has truly become a very useful resource.
>> 
>> If you're liking JIRA *g* we have another product coming up called
>> Confluence which I'd be happy to host for Spring too. It's like a wiki
> 
>> but built on similar principles to JIRA (ease of use, inability to
>> 'get things wrong', simplicity etc). It can export PDFs from
>> collections of pages, so might be useful for documentation needs.
>> 
>> Don't worry, no Camel Case unless you want to turn it on and the best
>> part... it's built on Spring as one of the core components! :)
>> 
>> Anyway - just an idea. +1 to get rid of the existing Wiki, but I think
> 
>> that having 'some sort' of wiki is a good idea, websites get static
>> very quickly. In an Open Source project, Wiki's are a fantastic way to
> 
>> harness the community to generate documentation.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 9/12/03 5:16 AM, "Colin Sampaleanu" (col...@ex...) penned the
>> words:
>> 
>>> I don't have an issue with removing this incarnation of the wiki. To
> 
>>> some extent though, I think the reasons people don't use it have to
>>> do with visibility and ease of use. End-users do seem to use the
>>> Hibernate wiki (which is also the web site) quite a bit, and I think
> 
>>> that's because it _is_ the web site, and it's easy to add stuff
>>> without the CamelCase page names...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> tri...@tr... wrote:
>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> There is not a whole lot of activity on the wiki - I'd prefer to
>>>> remove
>> the
>>>> link
>>>> to the wiki from the website and at some point turn off the wiki
>>>> itself. What do you all think, would you miss it?
>>>> 
>>>> Thomas
>>>> 
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