Re: [Springframework-developer] Release plan

[Rod J. <rod...@in...>]

Juergen,

Clearly telepathy...I'd also come to the conclusion that we need an M4. I
still remember how irritated I was when JBoss 3 jumped from the last beta to
the first RC and there were major changes. I didn't expect that, and I think
users may be bothered if RC1 is significantly different from the last
milestone release.

I think we could offer a patch for backward compatibility with CGLIB. Just
drop in an alaternative CglibAopProxy and CglibMethodInvocation. They share
the same public APIs. Maybe I should rename the present Cglib1AopProxy to
get rid of the 1, if we're going to take that approach.

I agree regarding a feature freeze for M4.

Regards,
Rod

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jürgen höller [werk3AT]" <jue...@we...>


Guys,

We need to settle on a concrete roadmap.

Despite our initial plans to go straight to RC1, I'm inclined to vote for an
M4 in two weeks' time, with the significant reworkings that have been
introduced in the meantime (in the bean factory and AOP area), with the
current state of the docs, and still with CGLIB1. We can also introduce our
JPetStore version with that release.

I suggest to target RC1 for early January then, with CGLIB2 and - most
importantly - a proper reference manual. In the ideal case, 1.0 final could
be ready at the end of January. M4 would correspond to a feature freeze,
with full concentration on bugfixes and docs afterwards. RC1 should already
be as good as it gets, a true "release candidate".

Juergen


-----Original Message-----
From: spr...@li...
[mailto:spr...@li...]On Behalf
Of Matthew E. Porter
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:37 PM
To: spr...@li...
Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate 2.1 and CGLIB


This was a good answer since it provides a roadmap.  Can someone post
this on the wiki or the website for others who may have the same
question?


Cheers,
   matthew

On Dec 1, 2003, at 11:04 AM, jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote:

> Hi Matthew,
>
> We've been discussing that for a while. If Hibernate 2.1 gets final
> early enough (and it seems to, being already in RC1 stage), we will
> switch to it for our 1.0 RCs. If 2.1 would still be far from final, we
> would probably have to support both CGLIB1 and CGLIB2 somehow.
> Fortunately, that seems not to be necessary anymore!
>
> For the time being, if you don't proxy full classes (but just
> interfaces) or don't use Spring AOP in the first place, you should be
> able to work with Hibernate 2.1 and its CGLIB2 without hassle. The
> same will apply to Hibernate 2.0 users after we've moved to CGLIB2:
> You don't need to worry if you don't use Spring AOP will full proxies.
>
> I think we can live with requiring an update to Hibernate 2.1 if a
> user wants full AOP proxies in combination. Actually, we probably
> *need* to move to CGLIB2 once Hibernate 2.1 final is released: Power
> users will want to combine full Spring AOP proxying with the current
> Hibernate version, not with a previous one.
>
> Now it would be really great if CGLIB2 were final too until Spring 1.0
> final! :-) It's no problem to ship a CGLIB2 beta with our upcoming
> Spring 1.0 RC1, but it worries me to include a CGLIB2 beta in Spring
> 1.0 final. Haven't the Hibernate guys the same problem? Or are they
> fine with shipping a CGLIB2 beta with Hibernate 2.1 final?
>
> So I suggest to release our 1.0 RC1 shortly after Hibernate 2.1 final,
> already with CGLIB2 support. As I said, we will just force users with
> full AOP proxies to upgrade to Hibernate 2.1 if using the two in
> combination. We could release a 1.0 M4 shortly before that though,
> still with CGLIB1 - to ease migration paths for Hibernate 2.0 users.
>
> Juergen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spr...@li...
> [mailto:spr...@li...]On Behalf
> Of Matthew E. Porter
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:06 PM
> To: spr...@li...
> Subject: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate 2.1 and CGLIB
>
>
> I have looked through the mailing list archives but was unable to find
> the answer to my question.  Will Spring move to support Hibernate 2.1
> (as it is the new *recommended* version) and, if so, when?
>
> Also, does anyone know if I can use it now with the cglib version
> change?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>    matthew
>
>
>
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