Re: [Springframework-developer] validation package + spring-beans.jar

[Ken K. <kk...@kk...>]

I agree 100%. I also raised this same point quite some time ago. After 
all, validators are business layer, not presentation layer objects, are 
they not ?

I also wonder why CONTEXT support is only added in after AOP and JDBC. 
I  envision using Spring to build GUI apps, possibly Swing or SWT, that 
don't need JDBC or any J2EE support but I would certainly need CONTEXT 
support. I also envision using Spring's UI support,  probably developing 
extensions for rich clients along similar lines to that provided in the 
WEB package.

This raises a ***primary question*** of whether Spring is to be J2EE 
centric or if it is to have a broader scope. Our website and sourceforge 
project both emphasize its J2EE nature. If it is the latter, we should 
probably provide a convenient set of jars for non-J2EE developers. This 
would emphasize to developers (both Spring and users) that Spring is not 
just about J2EE. I realize that it may not be good to try to be too many 
things to too large an audience. Personally, I don't see why it needs to 
be limited to J2EE. I haven't given up on Java for desktop applications. 
What are your thoughts on this ???

Ken


MacMahon, Mark wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I am using the spring framework for a Swing UI client (probably a first as
>far as this framework is concerned ;-)
>
>I mainly use Spring Beans and the validation framework and It is my
>intention to keep the client footprint as small as possible.
>
>However, currently  I have to deploy with spring-full.jar due to the fact
>that it is the only jar containing the validation package.
>
>Okay, I could manually build a jar containing both the beans and the
>validation package but it seems to me that the validation framework belongs
>in spring-beans.jar
>
>Would it be possible to make this change for the upcoming release?
>
>Thanks for a wonderful framework.
>
>Regards,
>
>Mark.
>
>
>
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