RE: RE : [Springframework-developer] DTD

[<jue...@we...>]

Hi everyone,

I'm also for breaking backward compatibility now. I guess the hassle =
will only get more if we don't.

Regarding DTD retrieval: Hibernate uses a respective implementation of =
org.xml.sax.EntityResolver to avoid loading public URIs via HTTP, =
looking up "http://hibernate.sourceforge.net/" URIs in the classpath =
under "net/sf/hibernate/" (contained in the Hibernate JAR). Maybe we can =
adopt a similar approach.

Unfortunately, there's an issue when executing Hibernate within JUnit =
(console version): It doesn't find its classpath DTDs then, falling back =
to the HTTP download. This has probably something to do with JUnit's =
classloading behavior, but I haven't been able to figure it out yet.
I currently have an issue with Hibernate when executing within JUnit.

Juergen


-----Original Message-----
From: JP Pawlak [mailto:jp....@ti...]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 4:00 AM
To: tri...@tr...; 'Rod Johnson'
Cc: spr...@li...
Subject: RE : [Springframework-developer] DTD


Hi Rod,

I agree with Thomas for breaking backward compatibility now. As long as
it is not released, only a few people have to change their files.

For validating: it has to be checked how the parser retrieve the DTD
based on its name (before the URI). It's normally parser dependent. The
URI gives a chance to found it anyway. This name has to be fixed using
the convention "-//<organisation>//<format inside the
organisation>//<language>".

Jean-Pierre


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> first release.  As soon as you release a deprecated feature,=20
> you know that there is always someone that is going to use it=20
> and later complain when it is gone :-)
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> As for the DTD, could it go in the package where the=20
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> clearly worded exception if they are not.
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> > parsing XML? 0.8? 0.9? Break it now?
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