Re: [Springframework-developer] database for demos

[Isabelle M. <isa...@me...>]

I have no problem with Orion. So to summarize, we will use just Tomcat for the parts that have no transactional requirements, e.g. demonstrating basic JDBC funtionality in the framework. The demo app can then use Orion.
By the way, maybe I didn't make this clear in the past but I plan on two trails in the demos. One trail is the petclinic, which is about building applications with Spring. The other trail is made up of subtrails corresponding to the main areas of functionality covered by Spring. So there would be a JDBC subtrail, a bean subtrail etc.

Isabelle

On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 10:55:42AM +0100, Rod Johnson wrote:
> My thoughts on app servers:
> 
> 1. Spring is about J2EE, not just the Servlet API. This means that JTA is
> part of the picture, which worries me about Tomcat.
> 2. Personally I've found JBoss pretty easy to set up, with a single XML file
> to define connection pools etc.
> 3. I think WLS is a good high-end container, but I absolutely don't favour
> using it for the demo. It's way too heavyweight.
> 4. Orion vs JRun: I like Orion a lot. I haven't tried 2.0 yet, but it's
> always been incredibly fast to deploy.  I had such a dreadful experience
> with JRun 3.0 that I'm very prejudiced now. I'm sure 4.0 is way better. But
> I would definitely vote for Orion of the two, as it's so lightweight. Also
> it's the basis for Oracle 9iAS, which I think will become a major player.
> 
> I vote that we have
> - a basic demo that works on Tomcat (because it is the ref impl) and Orion.
> Non transactional. Will think about Juergen's implementation suggestion for
> this. I was thinking about something along these lines this morning, but
> Juergen's proposal is better worked out.
> -more advanced demo on Orion. With instructions for JRun, Tomcat/Tyrex, WLS
> as extras when we get round to it.
> 
> I'm also a Jetty fan, but that's partly because it was written by a friend
> of a friend who went to the same university as I did.
> 
> Regards,
> Rod
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Isabelle Muszynski" <isa...@me...>
> To: <spr...@li...>
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:56 AM
> Subject: [Springframework-developer] database for demos
> 
> 
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > A lot of activity on the mailing list overnight! A couple of thoughts :
> >
> > (1) The database. I'm in favor of mySQL because a lot of documentation can
> be found for it and is moving more and more towards a very mature product.
> It is also very widespread, for ex. all the webhosters I know are offering
> it. And it's really a plus that one can find good books about it, besides
> all the info on the web. Plus it comes pre-installed on linux boxes.
> > (2) The application server. I think JBoss is moving away from the open
> source spirit, and in addition it is quite hard to customize (datasources
> etc). And you have to shell out money for the docs or buy a book. So if we
> forget about the open source aspect for a minute, it seems to me we are left
> with 2 options : Orion and JRun, both free for developers. It's been a while
> since I've worked with Orion, but have heard good things about it. I'm using
> JRun, and am quite pleased with it.
> > (3) The logo. We shouldn't mix metaphors, so if we go with the spring for
> the letter i, then we shouldn't use a cherry blossom or whatever for the
> cartoon.
> >
> > Isabelle
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