Re: [Springframework-developer] Demos

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I'm impressed with Kodo. I actually made some changes to JdbcTemplate (new
ResultSetExtracter interface) to allow it to work with custom SQL queries in
Kodo. These will be useful elsewhere, though.

Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Risberg" <tri...@tr...>
To: "Rod Johnson" <rod...@in...>; "Thomas Risberg"
<tri...@tr...>; <spr...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Demos

> What do you think of Kodo?  I have been meaning to try it out as well,
> but so far I have not had time to play with it.
>
> Thomas
>
> > +1 for HSQL. I've been evaluating Kodo JDO at work, and their demo works
> > very well with HSQL. No need to set it up: it just works. Very
> important for
> > a demo.
> >
> > Rod
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thomas Risberg" <tri...@tr...>
> > To: <spr...@li...>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 6:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Demos
> >
> >
> > > Rod,
> > >
> > > Hypersonic is no longer in development - the source lives on though in
> > > the HSQL Database Engine (HSQLDB) Project.
> > >
> > > This is from their web site
> > >
> > > *----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >  What is HSQLDB?
> > >
> > >     * It is an Open Source Java Database
> > >     * It has standard SQL syntax and a JDBC interface
> > >     * HSQLDB is FREE to use and re-distribute
> > >     * It is compact
> > >     * It is very fast
> > >     * In-Memory, Standalone and Client/Server modes
> > >     * It can be used also in Applets
> > >
> > > More Features:
> > >
> > >     * Indexes can be built and are used automatically
> > >     * Transactions are supported
> > >     * Joins between tables are possible
> > >     * Referential Integrity
> > >     * Java Stored Procedures and Functions are supported
> > >     * Database can create SQL scripts
> > >     * Security mechanism using users, passwords, access rights
> > >     * Can be compiled for Java 1.1 and Java 2
> > >
> > > HSQLDB, based on HypersonicSQL, is a general purpose database. It is
> > > very small and easy to install and use. It can be used in applets, for
> > > testing, as a distributed application, and for production purposes.
> > > *----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > I have used it a little bit, and I think it has most of the features
> > > that we would require.  I think JBoss is still including some older
> > > version of HSQLDB it in their install.
> > >
> > > The more I think about it, I think that this should be the default
> > > target db.  Hopefully we can provide sample code for MySQL, Postgres
and
> > > Oracle as well.
> > >
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > >
> > > > What about Hypersonic? It seems well suited for demos as it's
> > potentially
> > > > zero configuration. But I don't know its capabilities.
> > > Transactionality is a
> > > > must.
> > > >
> > > > Rod
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Isabelle Muszynski" <isa...@me...>
> > > > To: "Thomas Risberg" <tri...@tr...>
> > > > Cc: <spr...@li...>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:40 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Demos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Thomas,
> > > > >
> > > > > MySQL provides transactions, you just have to specify a table type
> > that
> > > > supports them (eg InnoDB). Oracle is much more powerful, I agree,
but
> > > who'd
> > > > want to set up Oracle just to run a demo app? Plus it eats up a lot
of
> > > > resources.
> > > > >
> > > > > Isabelle
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 12:20:22PM -0400, Thomas Risberg wrote:
> > > > > > I think Jean-Pierre raises some valid points here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would be nice to have the sample apps from the book work with
> > > the 0.8
> > > > > > release of the framework.  This should be avaialble in addition
to
> > the
> > > > > > new demo app that we are developing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would also be nice to have a very simple "entry level" app
and
> > > a more
> > > > > > advanced one.  I think we should limit the first one to the
> > web-tier,
> > > > > > infrastructure and data access parts of the framework.  This app
> > > should
> > > > > > be able to run on Tomcat and a lightweight database like HSQL or
> > maybe
> > > > > > MySQL.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For the more advanced one we should include AOP, Transactions,
EJB
> > and
> > > > > > maybe some more advanced JDBC stuff.  Here we could use JBoss
and
> > > a more
> > > > > > robust database with transaction support.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thomas Risberg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > Not writing a lot these times, I follow constantly the Spring
> > > list. In
> > > > > > > this discussion, I see clearly that we have two goals with the
> > > > > > > demo/tutorial.
> > > > > > > 1) For the beginners: telling about the main Spring approach
> > > > > > > 2) For advanced users: telling about advanced features that
are
> > > making
> > > > > > > all the sense of the framework
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Both have to be founding a real aid. Isabelle is concentrated
on
> > the
> > > > > > > first, but the seconds don't to be ignored. Perhaps we have to
> > > provide
> > > > > > > both separately: A very simple demo on Tomcat for the firsts
> and a
> > > > more
> > > > > > > advanced on Jboss for the others. So everybody could easily
> > > start with
> > > > > > > the framework and users interested by the more interesting
> > > topics will
> > > > > > > normally not be afraid by installing Jboss.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't agree when you say Jboss is too complicated, but I
> > recognize
> > > > > > > that it's not the same level of difficulty as Tomcat.
> Nevertheless
> > > > Rod's
> > > > > > > book is very helping for starting with Jboss.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In this topic, so long as no documentation is done, I have
> another
> > > > > > > question: having two applications working with the initial i21
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > > > book, is it too early to thinking on passing them on the
Spring
> > > > > > > framework? What is the best way today to found what have
> > > changed? Have
> > > > > > > we only the sources and the list discussion, having to guess
> from
> > > > here?
> > > > > > > It's certainly clear in the mind of a few people deeply
involved
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > development, but personally, I'm a quite loosed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jean-Pierre PAWLAK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > > > De : spr...@li...
> > > > > > >
> [mailto:spr...@li...] De
> > la
> > > > > > > part de Isabelle Muszynski EnvoyÃ© : samedi 26 avril 2003
> 13:29 Ã?
> > :
> > > > > > > spr...@li...
> > > > > > > Objet : [Springframework-developer] slogan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How about this for a slogan :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J2EE made easy
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
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